This County Clerk Business...Insanity!

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic

originally posted by: beezzer
YOU made it about Christians.

I didn't mention Christians.

So... Do you have more to add about the story? Or are you just here to chastise people for stuff they didn't say?

Just a condemnation of biased hatred, nothing more.

originally posted by: eluryh22
a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

What happens when that clerk goes on vacation? Or gets sick?
(Not trying to be argumentative, just seems odd.... then again, we are talking about a government agency).

There are deputy clerks who could act but she ordered them not to issue any licenses. And her religious convictions are apparently not very sincere, since she is a fat pig who ignores the prohibition against gluttony and she has been married 4 times and she readily issues licenses to divorced people, people who cut their hair, eat pork, wear blended fiber clothing, and work on Sunday. I think she is doing it for political reasons to keep being elected by the godbothering slack-jawed, slope-headed, mouth-breathers of Rowan County, a poor, bible-thumping, rural, Appalachian county in Eastern Kentucky.

a reply to: tothetenthpower

Yeah, I live in the Commonwealth, and my friend and I were just talking about her this morning--she obviously has a screw loose, for sure.

She needs to go to jail--she is holding an elected office and refusing to perform her duty according to the description of the job. This sounds like a case of small-town corruption, honestly--they seem to be holding on to their lineage of holding public office in her family, so they probably think that they are above the law.

This ought to be interesting to see how it works itself out. It seems like this Thursday is going to be the day that they hear the motion presented to have her held in contempt, and the ruling will tell us a lot about how this is going to be handled. If she doesn't get removed from office or put in jail, this will be a bad precedent.

a reply to: tothetenthpower

I'd hire you tenth, if you are qualified and can do the job.

This equality clusterluck is getting out of control. Sexual alignment shouldn't be an issue. If anyone can prove they can get the job done the hire them, if you are overlooked on sexual preference alone then that is discrimination. However if a homosexual, transsexual or hermaphrodite was denied a job because they were not qualified then that is not discrimination, that is common sense.

a reply to: Thecakeisalie

The thing is we (GLBTQ+) can still get fired, and denied services, housing , property etc just for being GLBTQ+ so it does happen

originally posted by: beezzer

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: beezzer

No one is saying ANY of that! Do you have more to add about the story? Or are you just here to chastise people for stuff they didn't say?

These people will fight tooth and nail to force their religious right to public disapproval, discrimination and bigotry. Amen!

YOU made it about Christians.

The bunny doth protest too much, methinks

a reply to: Thecakeisalie

I'm retired now lol But thank you for the support. It is all about what you CAN do, not who you are.

~Tenth

originally posted by: beezzer
Just a condemnation of biased hatred, nothing more.

beez, I don't hate this woman. I don't know this woman at all. And any feelings I have toward her are NOT because of her religion. So, I'm not being biased. The feelings I have are because she is denying a segment of the population the right to share in the same rights the rest of us take for granted, and insisting on making a public spectacle of her pious disapproval, and using her position to exert power that is not hers.

She doesn't see it as a civil rights issue. She is blinded by some ideological programming (that isn't even Christ-like) and in her fervor, she thinks she's doing the right thing. I don't fault her her beliefs or her religion. It's her ACTIONS that frustrate and anger me. Anger is NOT Hatred.

So, she should step down! That is my position. Not that she's a vicious Christian that I hate, as you would have others believe.

Read the OP again and then ask yourself why you keep bringing up Christian persecution and hatred where none has been spoken. Not by me, anyway.

So stop accusing people of saying things they didn't say, and feeling ways they don't feel - and then trying to hold them accountable for it. It's just annoying.

This woman is not a victim and neither are you. Neither are the Christians you're trying to protect.

a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

It's funny.

Some attack belief systems, then when criticism arises, the attackers call those that point out the attacks, victims.

I've never played the victim card, I've stated the woman should be fired.

I'm just pointing out the knee-jerk reactions to Christianity.

"Amen"

originally posted by: karmicecstasy

originally posted by: beezzer

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic
a reply to: beezzer

No one is saying ANY of that! Do you have more to add about the story? Or are you just here to chastise people for stuff they didn't say?

These people will fight tooth and nail to force their religious right to public disapproval, discrimination and bigotry. Amen!

YOU made it about Christians.

The bunny doth protest too much, methinks

Nah. Just not going to let people spew irrational hatred of a religion, if I can help it. Seen too much of "hate the joos" hate the christians" here recently.

Maybe it's just me.



Maybe I'm just getting too old for this sh!t.

Who cares, right?

Oh yay, another holier-than-thou vacuous piece of genitalia not doing their job & making excuses for it. You know what, it's this simple, people: Do what you were hired to do, or kiss your paycheck good bye. Plain & frigging simple.

I see it this way more often than not lately. When someone gets a job & knows the expectations, but decides to buck the expectations because they're better than everyone else (either by ego or a damn book) THAT screams to me nothing will ever make them happy pertaining to job responsibilities, and they probably won't be a reliable employee in any industry or sector.

In other words, I'm starting to notice religion is being used as a cop-out excuse for people who just suck & do whatever they want on the job.

a reply to: beezzer

Yeah if only we can stop the whole "gays are destroying the world" thing huh? I am not saying tit-for-tat is correct....before you put that into my mouth

The point is we have had decades and centuries of hatred towards LGBTQ....and it is still going on

Yes their are absolutely LGBTQ members who treat others unfairly...no doubt in my mind but the problem is your rhetoric completely ignores the constant and continuing and historical hatred (both blatant and hidden) towards us...or is that sort of thing ok?

a reply to: KyoZero

I can't do anything about historic hatred.

Feel like you need to deal some payback?

Knock yourself out.

But you'll be just as bad as this woman.

originally posted by: beezzer
a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

It's funny.

Some attack belief systems, then when criticism arises, the attackers call those that point out the attacks, victims.

I see. It's a reading comprehension problem. Here's what I said: "This woman is not a victim and neither are you."

I PLAINLY said that you are not a victim. And yet... you say I called you a victim...

I'm just pointing out the knee-jerk reactions to Christianity.

No one is reacting to a religion. I am reacting to what this woman is doing - yes, in the name of her religion, but that's not relevant. But you believe what you want to believe.

"Amen"

That wasn't very PC of me, was it?

originally posted by: CranialSponge
a reply to: tothetenthpower

I hear ya.

It seems jobs aren't so scarce afterall because these people have no problem taking the risk of losing their paycheques. It's great that people stand by their convictions, but come on... a job is a job is a job. Your convictions will not put a roof over your head and food in your family's belly. Priorities... paycheque first, faith later.

NEWSFLASH:

Your employer's place of business is not your personal little church to practice your religious beliefs. It's not the time, nor the place for it. You're there to do a job, get paid, and go home. End of story.


If you don't want to do your job, there are plenty of people who will be more than happy to fill your position.

Employers are not there to cater to each individual's personal little whim.

Especially since her EMPLOYER is the County and her salary is paid for by the County taxpayers, some of whom are the same gay & lesbian individuals whom she is refusing to issue a marriage license to.

originally posted by: Nyiah
starting to notice religion is being used as a cop-out excuse for people who just suck & do whatever they want on the job.

Very very good point Nyiah

originally posted by: CranialSponge
a reply to: butcherguy

Who'd a thunk that if you voted for someone to do a job, they'd be so hard to get rid of if it turns out they're incapable of doing their job ?

Meanwhile, the people are having to continue to pay her wages while she's not doing her job.

It's complete insanity.

Darlin', I live in Wisconsin.

You're preaching to the choir.

a reply to: beezzer

Lemme help you out a bit with what I wrote

You said

Feel like you need to deal some payback?

My prior post said

I am not saying tit-for-tat is correct....before you put that into my mouth

I know that was hard to see

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You said

I can't do anything about historic hatred.

My prior post said

but the problem is your rhetoric completely ignores the constant and continuing and historical hatred (both blatant and hidden) towards us...

Good day friend

I bolded that one for you

originally posted by: beezzer

originally posted by: Benevolent Heretic

I'm telling you, Tenth, this isn't Canada. These people will fight tooth and nail to force their religious right to public disapproval, discrimination and bigotry. Amen!

Should we kill 'em or just lock them types up?

Or try something wacky like forgive them, be patient, and talk with them.

Dunno.

I say shewt 'em.

With assault guns.

Hell yeah
Or force em to be gay
By God

a reply to: KyoZero

I can't do anything about historical wrongs. And any attempt to do so, . . . well. . . . sounds like retribution to me.

But to each his own.