The truth about UFOs by the US Government

originally posted by: LukeCahill
a reply to: DJW001

Like it or not, the US government do have something to do with flying saucers and they are man-made. Not extra-terrestrials.

Unequivocally, are you sure?

a reply to: DJW001

That was just a special case. In fact, why do the US government developed machine guns in WW1 but never used them until WW2, obviously to surprise.

There are always somethings known as secret weapons.

a reply to: TechniXcality

Pardon?

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: DJW001

Then why bother with conventional aircraft at all? Why build the Saturn V to take men to the Moon?

They hid going to the moon in Die Clocke, so they could spend all that money and make all that effort going to the moon to hide they already went there.

Why would they do that? The whole point to Project Apollo was to prove that American space technology was superior to Soviet technology! Also, the Soviets had their own equivalent to Operation Paperclip. If they had access to the same technology, why wouldn't they use it for propaganda purposes? And even if the scientists they had didn't know how to build the legendary Hannebau, they would know of it. If the Soviets knew about the Hannebau, why keep it secret from them? Simple logic.

ETA: Going back over the thread, I realize that you, interptr, made the post, not Luke Cahill and it was meant as a joke. Ironically it sounded exactly like something he would say! Have a star!

a reply to: DJW001

Did the soviets know about the Hannebau? In fact, when Hitler was plotting against Stalin, he fed them false information about their technology? That was when the war between Russia and NAzi GErmany has already begun(1941) Operation Barbarossa.

a reply to: DJW001

Are you like some old man who have leaked info on this kind of stuff?

a reply to: LukeCahill

That was just a special case. In fact, why do the US government developed machine guns in WW1 but never used them until WW2, obviously to surprise.

Just plain wrong:

The first self-powered machine gun was invented in 1884 by Sir Hiram Maxim. The "Maxim gun" used the recoil power of the previously fired bullet to reload rather than being hand-powered, enabling a much higher rate of fire than was possible using earlier designs such as the Nordenfelt and Gatling weapons. Maxim also introduced the use of water cooling, via a water jacket around the barrel, to reduce overheating. Maxim's gun was widely adopted and derivative designs were used on all sides during the First World War. The design required fewer crew and was lighter and more usable than the Nordenfelt and Gatling guns. First World War combat experience greatly increased the importance of the machine gun. The United States Army issued four machine guns per regiment in 1912, but that allowance increased to 336 machine guns per regiment by 1919.[13]

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There are always somethings known as secret weapons.

Prove it. The military like to keep certain information about their weapons secret, but they love to boast about them.

originally posted by: LukeCahill
a reply to: intrptr

I watch documentaries about this stuff.

You mean like "Ancient Aliens"? Those aren't "Documentaries", they're speculation from rumors.

You can tell the difference when the narrator says, "Could it be…" and, "Is it true that…".

a reply to: intrptr

No, like documentaries like Forbidden History.

a reply to: DJW001

Seriously, you some old man working for the government?

a reply to: DJW001

EDIT: Got it, thanks. Just playing along…

a reply to: LukeCahill

Yes, the US did attempt to build "flying saucers". It is (well, was) called the Avrocar. Here is your "flying saucer".



it is nothing more than an 18 feet wide disc with a propeller at the center - right between the two cockpits. The project was abandoned in the sixties because the whole design is flawed - the propeller is not powerful enough for the whole craft (not to mention lack of space for fuel); and the saucer design is just stupid - it provides for highly unstable flights, the cause being that the body of the craft is wrapping the one propeller (instead of several propellers wrapping the craft) and pushing on it from variable directions depending on load weight or atmospheric pressure variations.

originally posted by: LukeCahill
a reply to: intrptr

No, like documentaries like Forbidden History.

Those are fiction.

originally posted by: LukeCahill
a reply to: DJW001

Seriously, you some old man working for the government?

What difference does that make? You've already closed your mind to the possibility that you are wrong.

originally posted by: LukeCahill
a reply to: intrptr

No, like documentaries like Forbidden History.

"Forbidden Documentaries".

"As seen on TV?"

originally posted by: LukeCahill
a reply to: DJW001

Did the soviets know about the Hannebau? In fact, when Hitler was plotting against Stalin, he fed them false information about their technology? That was when the war between Russia and NAzi GErmany has already begun(1941) Operation Barbarossa.

No, the Soviets did not know about the Hannebau because the Hannebau never existed. It was a story cooked up in the 1970s using the same chicken coop heater that George Adamski used in his hoaxes twenty years earlier.

a reply to: DJW001

what prove you have?

a reply to: DJW001

I was considering my mistake.

a reply to: DJW001

Thats why we here for, to learn. And cut me a break I am only 18

originally posted by: LukeCahill
a reply to: DJW001

what prove you have?

What proof do you have that US government sent astronauts on the Moon in an Avrocar?