Nuclear weapons in the UK and another referendum

Just putting this out there.

Nuclear weapons always seems to be a thorny issue in the UK but more so in Scotland as we get to house them, so i believe i have come up with a solution that suits all. A Referendum..... and here's how it will work.

Everyone in the UK has a vote on either scrapping or the renewal of Trident. The region with the most in favour to renew get's to house the damn things...All those in favour, say aye.

So who's in favour of paying for and housing £100 billion of nuclear weapons on there own doorstep. Remember, it will create at least 375 jobs, at least.

a reply to: Soloprotocol

I'll do it as long as I get full control of them. Then I can have my own super power and no-one will ever mess with me, lol.

Just a stalk in a bale of straw. It is the way things are stacked right now.

According to a thread here yesterday they don't exist any way so no need to worry.(joke).

a reply to: Soloprotocol

If you scrap your subs and nuc's , I seggest you spend the extra money on Russian lesions.

originally posted by: Nickn3
a reply to: Soloprotocol

If you scrap your subs and nuc's , I seggest you spend the extra money on Russian lesions.

It looks like English lessons might be more useful.......

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Nickn3
a reply to: Soloprotocol

If you scrap your subs and nuc's , I seggest you spend the extra money on Russian lesions.

It looks like English lessons might be more useful.......

Belter...

originally posted by: Revolution9
a reply to: Soloprotocol

I'll do it as long as I get full control of them. Then I can have my own super power and no-one will ever mess with me, lol.

Just a stalk in a bale of straw. It is the way things are stacked right now.

According to a thread here yesterday they don't exist any way so no need to worry.(joke).

4 nuclear submarines would take up quite a bit of room in your fish pond. Still if your willing to move the fishing gnome we will bring then by Monday.

a reply to: Soloprotocol
Most of them are just casings. Money laundering to secret ops. We have enough to destroy the world how many times?
Why? is once not enough?

a reply to: Soloprotocol

Funny replies in this thread but seriously, I would prefer us to have a nuclear deterrent than not.

originally posted by: Soloprotocol
Just putting this out there.

Nuclear weapons always seems to be a thorny issue in the UK but more so in Scotland as we get to house them, so i believe i have come up with a solution that suits all. A Referendum..... and here's how it will work.

Everyone in the UK has a vote on either scrapping or the renewal of Trident. The region with the most in favour to renew get's to house the damn things...All those in favour, say aye.

So who's in favour of paying for and housing £100 billion of nuclear weapons on there own doorstep. Remember, it will create at least 375 jobs, at least.

Yep sounds good to me.
I'll vote keeping a nuclear deterrent so we have our own UK cards in the 'mutually assured destruction' game. I'd also say bring the Trident fleet down here to Devonport and halt the move of the Trafalgar Class up to the Clyde.

Yep, referendum, bring it on!
...at least whoever gets it won't be whinging then

Start a .gov.uk petition, with enough support it has to be debated in Parliament, I wish you good luck in your campaign.

Well, the nuclear deterrent - in the form of four subs - are housed in Faslane. It's a UK deterrent and Scotland is part of the UK. I guess if Scotland leaves the UK at some point in the future then the deterrent may be relocated elsewhere, along with everything else of value - shipyards and all.

The nationalists have always been anti nuclear, but I have found no source that indicates the Scottish (who are not all nationalists, and not all anti-nuclear) care more than people elsewhere in the UK.

Oh, and the cost of a replacement Trident is not 100 billion, although it's a figure continuously repeated by the anti-nuclear crowd. A nice round and repeatable figure first cited by (you guessed it) CND!

www.bbc.co.uk...

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Nickn3
a reply to: Soloprotocol

If you scrap your subs and nuc's , I seggest you spend the extra money on Russian lesions.

It looks like English lessons might be more useful.......

Nyet, Siri Sucks!

If I were so close to Russia and so Tiny as UK I would build THOUSANDS of nuclear missles. Put them on trains, planes, boats, subs everything I can think of. Hell build under Ocean Launch systems.

I would let Russia know if you screw with us AT ALL. Your dead too.

a reply to: Soloprotocol

Fair enough.

But bear in mind along with Trident and the '375 jobs' going south of the border so too would all the other defence contracts awarded to Scottish yards etc.

You casually dismiss '375 jobs' - I wonder how you would feel if you were one of those affected - but I dare say you'd be cursing those 'bigots, racist and fascist' English when the approximate 12,500 people currently directly reliant on MOD contracts were consigned to the scrapheap?

Morally I suppose I oppose nuclear weapons - but I'm a realist and we can't uninvent them and as such, bearing in mind the nature of some of the extremists in this world, I much prefer the thought of having our own independent nuclear deterrent rather than relying on Uncle Sam or NATO.

So yeah, I don't mind moving them down here......but bear in mind, you can't have your cake and eat it.

I suppose it is really simple, if you want to walk away, it goes both ways.
No more north sea patrols, get those Russians off your back alone.
No more protection for Scotland, it is after all a very weak point in the British Isles. Better to fight them in the highlands than on the coast, right?
Anyway, there are many options, if you think that becoming some kind of Iceland is one of them, good luck with that.

originally posted by: Freeborn
You casually dismiss '375 jobs'

Yeah, that's 4.689 million pounds injected into a local economy every year if they were all on minimum wage on a 37 hour week. Never mind the contractors and subbies.
I support the OP's call for a referendum, and I'll vote for Trident and Trafalgar class nuclear submarines to be hosted here in the SW of England.
Good luck with the campaign Solo

I don't know how it all works but isnt our (UK) military a part of NATO and therefore our targets will be NATOs targets and just having the American bombers to delivery the nukes to target. But I'm guessing it doesn't work like that

In an ideal world no one would have nukes but the times we live in I'm happy to know there's some subs out there that can delivery a blow before the world destroys its self .. Go down fighting there gonna be nothing left anywhere

I'm trying to figure out why this is in the world war three forum.

People are still believing this Russia wants to take over the world nonsense?

a reply to: Nexttimemaybe

Two points:
1) People seem all too eager to think that the US is trying to take over the world (we're doing so well taking over Iraq and Afghanistan, after all...).
2) People in the Ukraine might be forgiven for believing that Russia has some interest in taking over the world.

Over-arching point: People tend to believe the absolute worst about any large country with military and economic power, regardless of any factual support for that view. Note that I'm being nice and not inserting my personal opinion of Russia *or* the US here, just pointing out that both countries are viewed with some skepticism.

a reply to: Xeven

The UK is 1552 miles from Russia
The USA is only around 53 miles from Russia at it's closest point.

a reply to: Soloprotocol

They are designed, built and maintained at Burghfield / Aldermaston in England....

The ones up with you lot have already passed the test, so I wouldn't worry too much about them.

If anything is going to go wrong, it's the residents of Burghfield that should be worried.