Chinese Troop Movement

Today the US market took a tumble unexpectedly in the last 30 minutes. Fox news actually said in passing this was because of massive sell orders at the end of the day and of a very quiet rumor circulating that the Chinese are still moving tanks and troops to the NK border.

I immediately smelled crap but I was interested enough that I texted a college friend that works on wall street to ask him about it. The reply I got was in the affirmative.

Interesting.

Here are the few links I was able to find. The meat of this story apparently comes from Chinese bloggers...

News source

The movements of a mechanical unit at least the size of a brigade were spotted in the city of Yanji, China, in the autonomous region of Yanbian bordering North Korea.

According to pictures released on Chinese blogs, the mechanical units of the People’s Liberation Army were composed of PTZ-89 tank destroyers (Type 89), a PGZ-95 self-propelled anti-aircraft guns (Type 95 SPAAA) and 155 mm self-propelled guns.

Pictures were first uploaded on the China-based microblogging service Weibo around Saturday. Despite the sudden and irregular movement of troops, the Chinese government has not confirmed or officially reported on the incident yet.

“The Chinese authorities appear to be censoring posts on the topic of the Yanji deployment by Weibo users and independent bloggers, as well as preventing media coverage of the troop movements,” said NK News China specialist Jennifer Dodgson. “Nevertheless, posts on Chinese internet forums citing overseas Chinese media reports on the matter continue to surface, including on state-owned platforms.”

The build-up can be seen in Yanbian


Top Right On map.



So Is this BS? Or real?

I will try to scour twitter and chinese blogs later when I get home to see if there is any more info.

I would think that something would be happening around Dandong, since it would be the shortest route to Pyongyang. Atleast that seems logical if the chinese intended to enter and control NK. I wonder if these (chinese) movements are in response to a buildup of NK units on the northern border.

From what I'm hearing, the pundits on Fox said "unusual troop movements". China has had toops on the NK border for the past few days. So that news is a bit dated, especially since the NK/SK situation has all but ceased. (Fow now)

That leaves me to wonder if it's more than just the troops at the NK border. Also, there is a military parade going on soon, sept 3rd. However, I'm sure whoever is looking at this as "unusual" has already taken this into account.

Interesting, something to watch.

That pic was posted 4 days ago and was linked to in this thread:

North Korea Declares State of War.

It was posted as movement due to the NK-SK stand off.

I don't know if it was ever proven real or not tho.

Jude

a reply to: YeahYea4

The market dropping at the end of the day wasn't a surprise. News talk radio guys were talking about watching for it to drop at the end of the day.

So, to correct, it was expected.

It seems all they were doing is helping NK to understand they should end the BS with the south.

Everybody needs a little nudge in the right direction sometime...seems this could have been one those nudges.

Here is another story about it...

thediplomat.com...

A brigade is not a troop buildup!!

a reply to: Aloysius the Gaul

But it would be considered a troop movement!

a reply to: jude11

Yeah, I debated enen posting it here but Fox news reported the rumor and my friend confirmed it. I know this is in no way proof or substantial.

Looking through chinese blogs now.

a reply to: YeahYea4

I have been trying to find the Fox News soundbyte, but I haven't been able to find it yet. (Shepard Smith) It was said to have been mentioned 5 minutes or so before today's closing bell, when the dow slipped to -200. The theory is, rumors about it were circulating to inside traders causing a huge sell off. Could just be rumors, who knows!

It was picked up by various a couple of days ago and believed to be a response to NK aggression, China obviously needs to secure its border when a neighbor goes to war.

A couple of sites wanted to portray this as being in support of NK against the South, but this is clearly idiotic, China would not need to send anything through the border or anything through NK toward the South.

This was all about securing the border.
But it's also an indication of the lack of communication or support between former allies. Normally China would have been in on any plan by NK. This time around they seemed to know as little as anyone else and felt unease about how this would play out.

a reply to: Rocker2013

I agree. Most people do not understand china on a whole. They have no friends other than the Republic of China. They take no sides other than what is best for China. It has been ingrained into their cultural philosophy for well over 2000 years by being continually invaded from out and from with in.



Still the rumors today of troop movement are coming from someplace. We need a natural Mandarin speaker to search Weibo. Google translate isn't working well for me.

It would be odd if China did not make some small movements to secure the border in case a conflict broke out and sent millions heading into China.

From what I read in the article its China's retaliation to NK's comments last week.
The article reads:
"North Korea publicly stated that ‘no country in the world can stop’ North Korea from further escalating the current situation, and that message was directly aimed to tackle China, for them possibly trying to interfere and disrupt the goal that North Korea was trying to achieve from these recent provocations"

a reply to: Macenroe82

Yes.

Like I said I only started this from Fox news and a friend (from today saying movement today). Mods send this to Junk/hoax/ or grey area if you need. Or hell just delete.

I have a strong BS detector and might have bought in too early on this one.

Still searching the chinese version of twitter atm.

You would send the troops in from the North to avoid collateral damage from or to US, SK military, capture the territory where the US and SK wont be, claim some land, give your troops some training.

North North Korea, when North Korea just wasn't effed up enough. lol

Would Little Un sell out to China and let them have the north if the took the south and reunified Korea?
Would there be a way to stop them from taking the south?

a reply to: soulpowertothendegree

By definition it is a troop movement when any reservist has a carp!!

a reply to: grayghost

We protect the south. The north is protected from invasion with aid from China. The whole state is divided as a means of proxy war between two major powers. So yes, Allie forces are stopping such a play.

A few days more then its War.

“an action comitted in anger is an action doomed to failure.”
― Genghis Khan

First of september