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originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: pfishy
I've seen numbers from 80% to in the 90s. It might depend, based on the year & category. I was trying to find out what percentage of revenue was coming from which demographic, but I couldn't find that either.
Though to be fair, warrants shouldn't be lined up with a district's racial makeup but with the frequency of crimes. And the fact that their system was proven to target the African American community while giving reprieves for the white citizens is quite damning.
Also, remember, this is the district that was changing court dates without informing the citizens. And closing the doors to the courtrooms early, so citizens would be locked out & still seen as missing their court dates. The corruption is/was mind boggling.
originally posted by: iDope
a reply to: enlightenedservant
Go figure the newly appointed judge in this case (June) is a black man.
originally posted by: iDope
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: pfishy
I've seen numbers from 80% to in the 90s. It might depend, based on the year & category. I was trying to find out what percentage of revenue was coming from which demographic, but I couldn't find that either.
Though to be fair, warrants shouldn't be lined up with a district's racial makeup but with the frequency of crimes. And the fact that their system was proven to target the African American community while giving reprieves for the white citizens is quite damning.
Also, remember, this is the district that was changing court dates without informing the citizens. And closing the doors to the courtrooms early, so citizens would be locked out & still seen as missing their court dates. The corruption is/was mind boggling.
It doesn't matter what race you are, if a neighborhood or city sector commits more crimes than another then the police will patrol it more. It is all data and all numbers, not a damn coloring book.
Another example is "between 2012 and 2014, black drivers were twice as likely as white drivers to be searched during traffic stops, but 26% less likely to be found in possession of contraband."
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
originally posted by: iDope
a reply to: enlightenedservant
Go figure the newly appointed judge in this case (June) is a black man.
So you ignore the constant findings that the non-black people were deliberately targeting the black people, but complain about the black person giving the unfairly targeted citizens a fair chance? Note, all of the arrest warrants were withdrawn, not just the arrest warrants for the black citizens.
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
originally posted by: iDope
originally posted by: enlightenedservant
a reply to: pfishy
I've seen numbers from 80% to in the 90s. It might depend, based on the year & category. I was trying to find out what percentage of revenue was coming from which demographic, but I couldn't find that either.
Though to be fair, warrants shouldn't be lined up with a district's racial makeup but with the frequency of crimes. And the fact that their system was proven to target the African American community while giving reprieves for the white citizens is quite damning.
The police will search you car if they have reason to. They wouldn't search anyones car without reason. So likley after they pulled over a person, they took their license and registration and searched them through the system. If they had any outstanding charges, or previous charges for drugs or weapons or stolen goods, then they will search your car, simple as that. By race blacks overwhelm all others in those categories, maybe because they are searched too often, but then they are caught too often as well. All numbers and data.
Also, remember, this is the district that was changing court dates without informing the citizens. And closing the doors to the courtrooms early, so citizens would be locked out & still seen as missing their court dates. The corruption is/was mind boggling.
It doesn't matter what race you are, if a neighborhood or city sector commits more crimes than another then the police will patrol it more. It is all data and all numbers, not a damn coloring book.
Another example is "between 2012 and 2014, black drivers were twice as likely as white drivers to be searched during traffic stops, but 26% less likely to be found in possession of contraband."
Going by that logic, the white citizens would've been targeted more.
originally posted by: pfishy
a reply to: enlightenedservant
How early were they closing their doors. I ask, because every citation I have received required me to be in whichever courthouse was relevant by 9am. If you had not checked in by 10am, they considered you absent. But it was clearly printed on the citation that you were required to be there for 9. So not showing up on time is no excuse that I can see.
Or you may arrive to find yourself faced with an impossible choice: Skip your court date or leave your children unattended in the parking lot. Non-defendants, such as children, are permitted by law to accompany defendants in the courtroom, but a survey by the presiding judge of the St. Louis County Circuit Court found that 37 percent of local courts don't allow it.
Coming to court has its own pitfalls, but not the ones many people fear. It's a common misconception among Ferguson residents—especially those without attorneys—that if you show up without money to pay your fine, you'll go to jail. In fact, you can't be put behind bars for inability to pay a fine, but you can be sent to jail for failure to appear in court (and accrue a $125 fee). If you miss your court date, the court will likely issue a warrant for your arrest, which comes with a fee of its own:
originally posted by: TorqueyThePig
So let me get this straight, now in Ferguson you can speed through a school zone, speed through a construction zone, run red lights, drive carelessly, (and a multitude of other things) and you will receive a citation.
However, when you don't pay the citation they will NOT issue a bench warrant for you, and instead just another court date.
What happens when the offender doesn't show up to the second court date?