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Remove of ruggedness in men - NWO/communist plot?

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posted on Aug, 24 2015 @ 06:53 AM
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a reply to: thektotheg

Actually, they are old rules, being enforced more stringently than they have been of late. If anything, its a return to old policy and enforcement, which had been somewhat relaxed for a time, possibly to allow new intake time to get to grips with life outside Twitter.

You are probably right to point that out, since the OP is fairly limited by the standards set for new threads by Skeptic Overlord... I shall link to the page alerting members to the focus shift....

www.abovetopsecret.com...

There we are!




posted on Aug, 24 2015 @ 06:56 AM
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originally posted by: Rickyboy999
This is in point 1 of the link I have posted here - but WHT remove ruggedness? Is it to encourage homosexuality as opposed to a strong, family unit which i ssomething they don't want ie unity?

www.rosieontheright.com...


Way to stereotype homosexuals buddy.
edit on 24-8-2015 by Krazysh0t because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 24 2015 @ 11:36 AM
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originally posted by: buster2010
a reply to: StratosFear



If no more rugged men then the rugged female populations need to get in gear and pump out construction workers, mechanics etc etc. to start building and repairing things. You cannot have pansy little cowards do this type of hard physical work.

Women have been doing those kinds of jobs for years. Maybe it's time for someone to go out into the real world for a change.


Yeah, maybe it is time for you to go out into the real world. The real world isn't a phantasmal utopia of equity where everyone is the same.

I've never once in my life seen a female construction worker. I don't doubt they exist, but they sure as hell aren't commonplace. I've also worked in a warehouse for a while, and there were no women doing any heavy lifting.

Get a grip, these tropes are getting stale. No one is buying it.



posted on Aug, 24 2015 @ 05:48 PM
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I even saw a black kid wearing tight jeans, sagging! Why are these metrosexuals sagging their tight jeans?

I think some very powerful men are sitting in a dark room smoking cigarettes getting a kick out of gayifying hip hop and young black men. Just look at Kanye West, what a waste of flesh that one is. They say the black man is always the first one to die in movies.. to me it seems like the young black men are the first to play gay or dress up like women.

I don't understand all this gayness. Gaiety I'm fine with but I can not deal with all these girly men. Furthermore, I really wonder why the Greeks were so supergay..

And also, I wonder how macho one can be before one becomes supergay? Sometimes I can't tell if Dark Elves are super hetero or extremely gay.



posted on Aug, 25 2015 @ 05:20 PM
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I don't understand all this gayness. Gaiety I'm fine with but I can not deal with all these girly men. Furthermore, I really wonder why the Greeks were so supergay..


Thats why their Evzones open carry. Dont mess with the freedom fighters.


en.wikipedia.org...



The Evzones, or Evzoni (Greek: Εύζωνες, Εύζωνοι), is the name of several historical elite light infantry and mountain units of the Greek Army. Today, it refers to the members of the Presidential Guard (Greek: Προεδρική Φρουρά; Proedrikí Frourá), an elite ceremonial unit that guards the Greek Tomb of the Unknown Soldier (Greek: Μνημείο του Άγνωστου Στρατιώτη; Mnimeío tou Άgnostou Stratiόti), the Presidential Mansion (Greek: Προεδρικό Μέγαρο; Proedrikό Mégaro) and the gate of Evzones camp in Athens. An Evzone is also known, colloquially, as a Tsoliás (Greek: Τσολιάς, Τσολιάδες; pl. Tsoliádes).
Though the Presidential Guard is a predominantly ceremonial unit, all Evzones are volunteers drawn from the Hellenic Army's Infantry Corps. Prospective Evzones are initially identified at the Infantry Recruit Training Centres during Basic Training; there is a minimum height requirement of 1.87 m (6' 1.3") to join. However, induction to the Presidential Guard is delayed until the recruit serves for a minimum of six months with one of the Army's Infantry Combat, or "Campaign", Battalions (Greek: Tάγματα Eκστρατείας; Tάgmata Ekstrateίas).
The unit is famous around the world for its unique traditional uniform, which has evolved from the clothes worn by the klephts[1] who fought the Ottoman occupation of Greece. The most visible item of this uniform is the fustanella, a kilt-like garment. Their proven valour and peculiar dress turned them into a popular image for the Greek soldier, especially among foreigners.



posted on Aug, 28 2015 @ 11:10 PM
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a reply to: Hijinx

Well I suppose you missed my point entirely, and not once did I mention anything about gay people. But people like to read into things and twist them around but I felt I`d at least respond to a fellow car guy.

The most respected mechanic I know happens to be a black woman that can and does talk circles around a lot of guy mechanics. Being flaming gay doesn't make one a coward little pansy either. But its cool, twist away.



posted on Aug, 29 2015 @ 01:23 AM
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My definition of manhood is doing your own brakes.



posted on Aug, 29 2015 @ 07:02 AM
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Ultimately the NWO wants to weed out and eliminate the people who now make up the educated middle class. So making men aspire to be metro-sexual and more into consumerism than forming a long-term relationship with a woman and create children certainly fits in with this.



posted on Aug, 29 2015 @ 08:38 AM
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originally posted by: Rickyboy999
This is in point 1 of the link I have posted here - but WHT remove ruggedness? Is it to encourage homosexuality as opposed to a strong, family unit which i ssomething they don't want ie unity?

www.rosieontheright.com...


Your link is to a paranoid right-wing site that cites a document supposedly captured by "Allied Forces" in Dusseldorf in 1919. Which makes little if any sense, given the fact that separate British, French, American and Belgian forces had been in the Rhineland since 1918. Snopes says that the document is a fake, especially as the first reference to it is in 1946. So in other words - yawn.



posted on Aug, 31 2015 @ 11:08 AM
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originally posted by: edward777
Ultimately the NWO wants to weed out and eliminate the people who now make up the educated middle class. So making men aspire to be metro-sexual and more into consumerism than forming a long-term relationship with a woman and create children certainly fits in with this.
I think this is right, to an extent. From my pondering on this issue, I don't think that "they" specifically want all men to become metrosexuals...

I would basically change your first sentence to read, "Ultimately the NWO wants to weed out and eliminate the people who could potentially resist."

Generally speaking, a single individual has less strength than a family unit. So breaking down the conventional family unit is important.

Financially speaking, it is not an accident that as the years go by more and more people are becoming dependent on the government for food, shelter, etc. When you get everything you need for survival from the government, it's hard to resist their mandates.



posted on Aug, 31 2015 @ 11:30 AM
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If one is secure in their manhood, they are not threatened by any attempts to strip them of their ruggedness....which apparently is not actually occurring.

It's been my experience that too many men 18-35 feel that they have to be super macho, ignorant asses and any man that is kind, compassionate and does not act like the alpha male is considered "feminized".

A real man knows how to respect a woman. A real man knows how love their children. A real man knows when it's time to be soft and caring, and when to be rough and rugged.



posted on Aug, 31 2015 @ 11:39 AM
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originally posted by: introvert

It's been my experience that too many men 18-35 feel that they have to be super macho, ignorant asses and any man that is kind, compassionate and does not act like the alpha male is considered "feminized".



We do evolve.

It always makes me think of the Playboy Centerfold evolution over the years. Marilyn Monroe would not even be considered today.

The need for physical prowess just doesn't make sense anymore.

Give me a geek.



posted on Aug, 31 2015 @ 11:43 AM
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originally posted by: Annee




We do evolve.

It always makes me think of the Playboy Centerfold evolution over the years. Marilyn Monroe would not even be considered today.

The need for physical prowess just doesn't make sense anymore.

Give me a geek.
Your post reminded me of one time, a long long time ago, when I was in the waiting area at the doctor's office and flipping through the magazines I happened upon an article showing the evolution of the Ken dolls (from the Barbie toys).



posted on Aug, 31 2015 @ 12:13 PM
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I don't think the OP's link is legit, but there're valud things to consider, like this:
en.wikipedia.org - Xenoestrogen...
www.independent.co.uk - Male fish becoming 'feminised' by pollutants in Spanish waters...
news.nationalgeographic.com - Sex-Changing Chemicals Can Wipe Out Fish, Study Shows...

He said the finding of a sharp drop in the minnow population attributed only to synthetic estrogen was surprising.

He had suspected that feminization in addition to other environmental stresses could lead to population collapse. The new study shows feminization alone causes the decline.

Study leader Kidd and colleagues believe that if they had continued to add estrogen to the experimental lake for more than three years, the estrogen would also have had an impact on the populations of longer-lived fish in the lake—trout, white suckers, and pearl dace.

But concentrations of these compounds should be very low for most humans, as opposed to the fish. And of course fish have different responses. However, what're the possible effects on prenatal development in babies? That's a crucial time in development.

It's worht noting these xenohormones or psuedo-estrogens have long existed in small amounts, but due to pollution in modern times the concentrations are higher. The past 80 years are significant in this regard.

This:
www.sciencedirect.com - Male specific association between xenoestrogen levels in placenta and birthweigh...

Other research suggests psuedo-estrogens shouldn't impact prenatal development in humans, but might impact them if exposure occurs when they're older.

There're lots of chemicals in our food and in our air and water. Some of them are completely unknown as to their effects on the human body, as studies on the effect can be expensive. And thee're many hormones and systems in our body which might be impacted by these chemicals, causing something like feminization, direclty or indirectly:
en.wikipedia.org - List of human hormones...
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posted on Aug, 31 2015 @ 12:13 PM
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originally posted by: eluryh22

originally posted by: Annee




We do evolve.

It always makes me think of the Playboy Centerfold evolution over the years. Marilyn Monroe would not even be considered today.

The need for physical prowess just doesn't make sense anymore.

Give me a geek.
Your post reminded me of one time, a long long time ago, when I was in the waiting area at the doctor's office and flipping through the magazines I happened upon an article showing the evolution of the Ken dolls (from the Barbie toys).


That's funny.

He went the other direction. He went from Metro to Rugged. Not sure what he is today.



posted on Aug, 31 2015 @ 12:15 PM
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You guys have never heard of the "Log Cabin Republicans?" or a "Bear"?

There are certainly "manly" gay guys that like flannel, chopping wood, cheap beer and NASCAR. You probably haven't noticed them because they don't stick out from the crowd.



posted on Aug, 31 2015 @ 12:17 PM
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a reply to: MystikMushroom

What's funny is that there are other cultures (like Japan) that stereotype homosexuals as muscle building manly men in their media like we stereotype homosexuals as effeminate. Clearly both stereotypes can't be true...



posted on Aug, 31 2015 @ 12:19 PM
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I doubt most doctors would run hormone tests because some guy is scared his water bottle is turning him into a woman...and I doubt a persons insurance would pay for it either.

There are websites where you can order blood work done to check your hormone levels. I think you go into a clinic and have it drawn and the results put up on a website you login to. It's all out-of-pocket of course.

I do think that men should have a hormone screening done as part of a physical every few years though.



posted on Aug, 31 2015 @ 12:23 PM
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originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: MystikMushroom

What's funny is that there are other cultures (like Japan) that stereotype homosexuals as muscle building manly men in their media like we stereotype homosexuals as effeminate. Clearly both stereotypes can't be true...


Oh there are a lot of manly-bodybuilder gay people. I work out a lot and am at the gym quite bit. I got a compliment on my progress the other day from one guy who I was pretty sure was gay. To get a compliment from a gay man that works out like crazy is pretty good in my book -- some of those guys are obsessed with body image.

Another part of it is that when AIDS became a huge deal in the gay community, eating clean and working out helped keep people with HIV healthier longer.



posted on Aug, 31 2015 @ 12:29 PM
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originally posted by: MystikMushroom

I do think that men should have a hormone screening done as part of a physical every few years though.


How do we explain women becoming thinner in the hips, smaller breasts, a more athletic build?

Aren't they eating the same chemicals claimed to feminize men?

It doesn't compute.



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