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Euthanasia:What is your position?

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posted on Jun, 8 2003 @ 09:19 PM
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I should have clarified the etymological point: "euthanasia" "eu-" = "well"; "thanatos" = detah and therein lies the twist.
Who might not wish an easy death? "To cease upon the midnight with no pain" as Keats so eloquently put it.
But this is not a matter of "death" - which comes to all without anyone's intervention. This IS "killing", and that IS different.



posted on Jun, 8 2003 @ 10:13 PM
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Euthanasia for world bankers? Im all for it.



posted on Jun, 9 2003 @ 12:26 AM
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Euthanasia for the dying, for those in a PVS, it is humane. Its like putting a dog out when you know s/he can live a few months longer in pain & have a miserable experience. So you take the dog, make some special final memories, figure out how you are going to say goodbye. Then you take him to the Vet & send it off to become part of the universe in one way or another.

For convicted murderers w/ DNA evidence? No problem.

Human beings have the intrinsic right to decide when to terminate their lives. THe problem in all of this comes when you start talking about other people's lives.

Then there's the slippery slope argument. Euthanize one type of person (convicted murderers, people in a PVS state) and ... well why not start euthanizing people who are close to death but still conscious? Heath care insurance companies would take this thing out of control. They really have no souls.



posted on Jun, 11 2003 @ 09:04 PM
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I still feel, no matter what, if a person wants to die, its thier lfie, thier right, regardless of circumstances.



posted on Jun, 11 2003 @ 09:15 PM
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the way i feel
my position should be on my back with an IV in my arm instead of this beer in my hand

i got to go i am way out of control for you guy's



posted on Jun, 11 2003 @ 09:22 PM
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I can see your point, Skadi. But I have longer term concerns.

First, we say that abortion is legal. Bad idea. Then, we allow late-term and partial birth abortions. Truly horrendous. We've cheapened life to an extent hardly comprehendable to mere humans.
Next, we legalize "mercy killing" for those who are terminally ill and no longer wish to fight. Next, the elderly is allowed the opportunity to die before they feel their dignity is taken. Next, the elderly and the "less than perfect" unborn is suggested euthanized for everyone's good. Later, those who can't make it to the bathroom without assistance and the unborn that don't meet minimum standards are killed IAW statute.

How long would it take to get to this point? I dunno, but I do know that just a few years ago most would not have imagined that murdering the unborn on demand would be "constitutionally protected" in America.

Color me paranoid, but if I weren't, would I be here?



posted on Jun, 12 2003 @ 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
I can see your point, Skadi. But I have longer term concerns.

First, we say that abortion is legal. Bad idea. Then, we allow late-term and partial birth abortions. Truly horrendous. We've cheapened life to an extent hardly comprehendable to mere humans.
Next, we legalize "mercy killing" for those who are terminally ill and no longer wish to fight. Next, the elderly is allowed the opportunity to die before they feel their dignity is taken. Next, the elderly and the "less than perfect" unborn is suggested euthanized for everyone's good. Later, those who can't make it to the bathroom without assistance and the unborn that don't meet minimum standards are killed IAW statute.

How long would it take to get to this point? I dunno, but I do know that just a few years ago most would not have imagined that murdering the unborn on demand would be "constitutionally protected" in America.

Color me paranoid, but if I weren't, would I be here?


actually, it has already gotten to that point. When I was born, I was alive and well, but the doctors begged my parents to have me killed because they insisted that i would be so disabled that I would be like a vegetable. This means that doctors have the right to kill someone if they suspect anything is wrong. It sounds crazy, but, basically, what they gave my parents the oppurtinity to do was to just kill me if they did not want to put me up for adoption/care for me, because in reality nothing was wrong with me.

I do, however, have no problem with pulling the plug on someone who is old and is *supposed* to be dead. Know what I mean? I knew this man that was dead, that they kept plugged into this life system. It breathed for him, made his heart pump, etc, and he really no longer was there. This should not be going on in the first place, so if someone is in that position, then fine. keeping them alive is simply cruel.

But, I can see how granting simple liberties to doctors to kill people can go out of hand. Sure, you can recquire the patient that wants to be euthanized go to counseling, etc, to see if they really want to go through with it. *but*, the problem really does not lie within who wants to die and them dying, but in the fact that if this is legal, it does indeed open the door for many other things. Imagine if a doctor of euthanasia simply wanted someone to die. How do you prove that they really wanted to be killed? This could open up doors for mass murdering, legally. There are all sorts of other bad things that could come from that as well, but I will not get into it.



posted on Jun, 13 2003 @ 08:54 AM
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The courts are always going to be on the side of life first...

In my area, there is a guy whose wife has been in a coma for ten years. She shows NO signs of recovery, and is only alive on life support. This guy needs to move on, but can't, because each time, the family steps in and has it blocked...even though she clearly stated her wishes to her husband and friends previously (before the coma).



posted on Jun, 13 2003 @ 10:27 AM
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I'm definitely for it.

If was dying of a horrible and debilitating disease and there was no way I was going to survive, I would definitely want someone to help me.

After seeing someone I loved dearly die from MND (motor neurone disease) I know for sure I would never want to end up the way he did. They still haven't found a cure and if, god forbid the disease is hereditary, I would definitely do something about it...



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