Nazi gold train 'found in Poland'

originally posted by: ressiv
a reply to: Aazadan

you would be right IF the gold would be returned to the owners... BUT how would the do it???
the cost would be much moore than the value of an single golden ring...
so WHO is stealing inventualy

Some of them are still alive, others have children and grandchildren that would be the rightful heirs. The Nazi's kept very good records, it shouldn't be too hard to figure out where that gold came from.

as looking to the gold reserves now... bet moore than half of it IS bloodgold...
perhaps the golden ring on youre finger was made with stolen gold....a reply to: smirkley

tru.... but who will pay the costs for returning...? you just ca'nt dump 8 billiong gold on the market. without collapsing the system...
did spain ever returned the gold they stole from the Inca's????
a reply to: Aazadan

My gut tells me that these two men will regret the day they found this train...or at least the day they told the authorities that they found it. Hopefully they have already taken a fair amount of treasure for themselves...as it is always questionable as to whether or not their government will deal honestly with them. "Honest Government" now that's an oxymoron... Well at least in the current state of this planet. The best thing they have going for them...is they have the eyes of the whole world on them...and we are all anxiously waiting to see "IF" they found it and how it will be handled.

As far as trying to return everything to its rightful owners...that is a can of worms better left unopened. If that were the case then everything that changed ownership from every war in history should all be given back to the rightful heirs.. I am not saying that the loot wasn't acquired unjustly...but how justly was it acquired by the original owners ?? I mean would you feel bad if the loot from the corrupt aspects of TPTB was one day "reallocated" to other people ?? I am not trying to say that ALL of the loot was ill gotten by the original owners but I'm sure some of it was.

a reply to: Blackmarketeer

I'm curious about what else they found. You know that monetary gold/gems/whatever wasn't all that was discovered. I wonder if they found any War/Nazi documents stating bases/underground base locations....weapons......Nazi secrets and so on........

The nazi's looted and stole from all countries whos to say where it came from. I think they should get the finders fee. People find roman gold all the time and no one complains that the gold might have been looted in war.

originally posted by: rockintitz

originally posted by: DichroChrono
I'll have to stay tuned to find out how they managed to hide a 500' long train for 70 years.

I'd want a hell of a lot more than ten percent, too.

$900 million not enough for you?

originally posted by: Rikora
I am less intrigued by what will happen to the loot now... And more interested in how on earth a train goes missing for 70 years in a country as small as Poland?!

???

120,000 sq miles or about 312,000 sq km.........you have an odd idea what constitutes "small"!!

originally posted by: Aloysius the Gaul
120,000 sq miles or about 312,000 sq km.........you have an odd idea what constitutes "small"!!

If you focus on the area accessible now or in the past by train tracks, that should narrow it down quite a bit, right?

i have a hypothisis to explain why the train was not found sooner :

premise - during the nazi occupation - the polish resistance kept vey good tabs on what thier invaders were doing - and the operations required to conceal a 150m long main line train did not go un -noticed

however - after " liberation " by soviet forces - polish nationalists took the descision to keep the trains location a secret - as they feared it would simply be re- looted by the soviets and they suspected that some of the treasure was polish "national treasures " that they didnt want disapearing into soviet hands .

as matters deteriorated between 1945 and 1947 the poles that kewn about the train had even more reason not to disclose its location to the soviets or the communits puppet govt .

roll on the decades - with no liberation from the soviet yoke - everyone trusted with the trains location eventualy died before 1989 came and the new democratic polish republic re emerged

thus - the train staid hidden .

of course this musing does not account for why no germans revealed it in debrifing or attempted to loot it post war

a reply to: Arbitrageur

precisely :

IMHO the entrance to the tunnel // bunker where this train is found will be :

1 within 250m of an mainline track or siding that was operational in 1945

i pulled the distance ` 250m ` out my ass - bassed on the premise that a longer spur would be progressivky harder to bid // conceal without being noticed

i suspect that it will be < 50m in reality

2 - in the ` up ` face of a steep hill // cliff or quarry

this is because you need at leat 15m of overburden to build a tunnel in [ without horrendous complications // additional work

due to flooding and the constrainsts of gradient - building an incline in flat ground would be prohibitive

ergo - its going into a hilside

there - that narrows the search parrameter down massivly

I would've kept my mouth shut.

Cool story

:-) see my reply on page 3.... about hiding an train...a reply to: ignorant_ape

a reply to: smirkley
yes it was truly terrible but so was what was done to the people of the americas by the spanish but if these two guys found a spanish treasure ship nobody but spain would be telling them they should not profit from it. if i find any gold first thing i am doing is melting it and placing my stamp on it.

originally posted by: Blackmarketeer

Two people in Poland say they may have found a Nazi train rumoured to be full of gold, gems and guns that disappeared in World War Two, Polish media say.

The train is believed to have gone missing near what is now the Polish city of Wroclaw as Soviet forces approached in 1945.

A law firm in south-west Poland says it has been contacted by two men who have discovered the armoured train.

Nazi gold train 'found in Poland'

The Polish source (wiadomosciwalbrzyskie.pl) states the train may have up "300 tonnes of gold on board," and be worth up to 9 Billion in US dollars. No confirmation that anything has been found however. The two men are trying to get an official agreement from the city that they are due their 10% finders fee before revealing where the train is. Lots of speculation going on...

If it is gold from all the jewelry they took from the Holocaust victims, then I see Israel coming into the fray about this. The Nazis pulled out gold fillings out of Holocausts victims teeth. They took all their gold chains and their gold wedding rings. Melted them down to make bars of gold.
So who owns this now? I believe they should give the finders a 10% fee for their efforts.
Could there be missing priceless paintings and sculputures as well?

Kratos

There is quite a lot more Nazi Gold in the Vatican.

originally posted by: bluebook
There is quite a lot more Nazi Gold in the Vatican.

Prove it.

What about all the Gold and diamonds plunder by the UK and various other nations around the globe.....should they hand that back, or is that Gold and Gems heist just to be forgotten..?????

It's confirmed to be found but not what's in it:

Now officials have confirmed that the pair certainly found a train. Whether it's full of gold remains to be seen.

The city [of Walbrzych] is full of mysterious stories because of its history. Now it is formal information — [we] have found something.

-Town's deputy mayor Zygmunt Nowaczyk​
Source

originally posted by: Soloprotocol

originally posted by: bluebook
There is quite a lot more Nazi Gold in the Vatican.

Prove it.

Can buy that stuff on Ebay for $15