Encyclopedia of non american stealth planes

Originally posted by matej
I continue post about light fighter, mentioned in thread T-50 PAK FA configuration

First rumours were made during MAKS 2005, where some sources said, that MiG is working independently on a new light fighter for India. It was named MiG-E LMFI: Eksportno-orientirovannyi Logkiy Mnogo-funkcyonalnyi Istrebitel [MiG designed for export Light Multirole Fighter]. After that my sources said, that the new fighter is light, single engined [!] and in shape is comparable to scaled down MiG 1.42 MFI. Existence of reqirements for lighter and cheaper fighter than T-50 was confirmed in January in Interfax report. But the single engine concept is in direct collision with information from Vladimir Barkovskiy. On the other side, this concept was widely tested not only on MiG 1.44 demonstrator, but also on DM 5.12 scaled down models from KHAI during 1986 - 1992.

Other pics in my web: www.hitechweb.szm.sk...

Looks like the rumours have come true >> www.abovetopsecret.com... (scroll down)

No matter what we post i highly doubt any one is coming out with a stealth fighter for another 20-30 years(with the americans out with 2 already). Even than the Americans will come out with another thats even better. Its a endless cycle.

Originally posted by ACGoDZ
No matter what we post i highly doubt any one is coming out with a stealth fighter for another 20-30 years(with the americans out with 2 already). Even than the Americans will come out with another thats even better. Its a endless cycle.

What's makes you so sure of this? We don't know for sure what other countries have, if it's top priority as a new next generation stealth aircraft, it'll probably remain Secret Access until the aircraft is actually incorporated into that countries' military forces.

So how can you be so sure of that time range? To me other countries will have stealth fighters in maybe less than 10 years, it's not unheard of, the Americans weren't the first ones to experiment with stealth, the Nazis Germans were. Horton came out with the first considerable stealth flying wings which could have probably later influenced the design and development of the B-2(debateable).

What I'm trying to get at is that it is uncertain what is out there because we only know what we are told and what the governments want us to know unless some form of information is leaked out. We live for those moments.

Shattered OUT...

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Umm... the mirage III is a real fighter you know...

I saw the ultimate stealth aircraft last Monday night at about 8:30PM.

Clear, cold night, zero wind, very quiet. While outside smoking a cigarette, was looking high to the south, and ducked as I noted a triangle-shaped aircraft above me, less than 400' altitude, slowly moving east to west.

The aircraft was darker than the background sky, the triangle shape clearly discernible, but the center "blended" with the night sky, much like in that Schwartzenneger movie.

The triangle shape was clear, but the middle almost looked translucent. No lights, and absolutely, not a whisper of sound.

On it's heading, a few more miles to the west, it would have crossed the runway at Hurlburt Field.

If I hadn't been looking at that one spot in the sky, I'd have never seen it or detected it. It literally had to fly within my line of vision to detect it.

So whatever you guys have photos of, that's nothing.

If you can ease an aircraft down within 400' AGL, and it's barely discernible with zero noise, that's what I call stealth.

I estimated it was between 200' and 400' AGL, which would make the width between 25' and 40'.

Now when I look at the night sky, I'm not looking for lights or anything that is normally visible, I'm looking for a ghost that blends in with the background.

Originally posted by matej
Planes that physicaly exist: MiG 1.44, Sukhoi Su-47, FC-1/JF-17, Shafagh

Sukhoi T-50 will be ready around 2006, MiG-AC or Yak-131 will be build as prototypes, when VVS find some money.

All european manned planes exist [MAKO only as a mockup - will be ready at 2008]

European UCAV planes, that physicaly exist: SAAB Sharc, SAAB Filur, Dassault Petit Duc, Alenia Sky-X, BAe HALO

EADS UCAV concepts only as a mockup.

Shenyang J-XX is now in development phase, WZ-9 and Denel Seraph are mockups in development, MAV-1 and SAT 800 Falco physicaly exist.

I wouldn't classify Chengdu FC-1/JF-17 as a stealth plane. It has a general design just like F-16 or F-5. Also about HESA Saeqeh, it's just an F-5 with an F/A-18 style tail.
And Yak-131 it's just a version of the Yak-130 "Mitten", which is a trainer

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