Don't blame the Gays/Lesbians. Same sex marriage shouldn't even need to exist.

a reply to: UnHealtyArrogance

Kids bully kids...fact of life.

Too small, too fat, too toothy, different music tastes, long hair etc.

Gay parents aren't responsible for what bullies say any more than straight parents are.

originally posted by: mOjOm

originally posted by: makemap
Therefore gays and lesbians didn't have to care about marriage. Heck they can do it at home. It is all about benefits that people get after marriage.

Some of those benefits are pretty important and not all of them are about making money. A few major ones like:

Obtaining priority if a conservator needs to be appointed for your spouse -- that is, someone to make financial and/or medical decisions on your spouse's behalf.

Obtaining insurance benefits through a spouse's employer.

Taking family leave to care for your spouse during an illness.

Taking bereavement leave if your spouse or one of your spouse's close relatives dies.

Consenting to after-death examinations and procedures.

Making burial or other final arrangements.

Claiming the marital communications privilege, which means a court can't force you to disclose the contents of confidential communications between you and your spouse during your marriage.

That's just to name some of them not dealing with money. Those can be very important if you need them but don't get them if you're not legally married. So you can see where some couples might need their status as a couple to have legal standing.

Interesting, I live in Aussie. My partner and I have been together for 21 years, 4 children together. Not married but still get the benefits if we claimed such. On occasions have had the necessity to do so with regards illness. But in saying that we've never considered marriage as we're best mates. Just legally recognised as a defacto couple I guess. Why marry?

Kind regards,

Bally

It always boils down to money in the end.

a reply to: makemap

The whole damn controversy is Christians' fault to begin with. THEY are the ones who gave control of marriage to the government (for racist reasons, they didn't want interracial couples marrying). The government, once it moved beyond its racist roots for maintaining marriage, realized that there were certain benefits it could purvey with marriage and just retained control. Since the interracial issue had died down and this issue hadn't sprung up yet, no one seemed to have a problem with it. NOW it's come back to bite them in the ass. Oh well. They made their bed.

a reply to: beezzer

I've never had either...

originally posted by: Darth_Prime
a reply to: beezzer



I've never had either...

Well, you will now.

a reply to: beezzer

If i could find a someone .. i don't think i want to get Married though

originally posted by: mOjOm

originally posted by: makemap
Therefore gays and lesbians didn't have to care about marriage. Heck they can do it at home. It is all about benefits that people get after marriage.

Some of those benefits are pretty important and not all of them are about making money. A few major ones like:

Obtaining priority if a conservator needs to be appointed for your spouse -- that is, someone to make financial and/or medical decisions on your spouse's behalf.

Obtaining insurance benefits through a spouse's employer.

Taking family leave to care for your spouse during an illness.

Taking bereavement leave if your spouse or one of your spouse's close relatives dies.

Consenting to after-death examinations and procedures.

Making burial or other final arrangements.

Claiming the marital communications privilege, which means a court can't force you to disclose the contents of confidential communications between you and your spouse during your marriage.

That's just to name some of them not dealing with money. Those can be very important if you need them but don't get them if you're not legally married. So you can see where some couples might need their status as a couple to have legal standing.

See, that is just asking for slavery. rules can change by who is in control. The people need to know their own rights, that is what the constitution does for the country. In the past no one would even bother with your marriage. Men can even go home to see their sick wife(unless they were too busy fighting wars, crusade). You aren't free if you don't have control of your own assets or private life. You forgot the word husband too. Isn't spouse only a bit dated? What about children? These are unnecessary words for marriage when it should be the right to leave and bury your loved ones or friends.


"Obtaining insurance benefits through a husband's/spouse's employer." Is what it should be called. That may as well be a government/constitution law. Insurance didn't really exist in the past. There can be opposite, where the mother controls the house rather than the father.

Well the abomination of desolation could well be gay marriage the US will find out within a month Id say so theres not long to wait till Judgement

a reply to: khnum

Genesis 9:13-16New International Version (NIV)

I HAVE SET MY RAINBOW IN THE CLOUDS,
and it will be the sign of the covenant between me and the earth.

Whenever I bring clouds over the earth
and the rainbow appears in the clouds,
I will remember my covenant between me and you
and all living creatures of every kind.

Never again will the waters become a flood to destroy all life.

Whenever the rainbow appears in the clouds,
I will see it and remember the everlasting covenant
between God and all living creatures of every kind on the earth.

a reply to: Layaly

So he was talking positive about GLBTQP people!!!

a reply to: Darth_Prime

I remember coming across so many stories in bible where God condemns unfaithful man having a harem orgie around and people who drink themselves silly laying around passed out half naked embarrassing their families. I remember reading stories where he condemnts prostitutes who do it to have that piece of blink

Even a reminder that sex with goats is a no no

Still looking for the LGBT thing

if there is it still only reminds me of a plan to ensure population.. human you must keep breading

but I bet you some people get their books out screaming slapping me silly with some phrases to prove a point

just really silly pun
hey at least we can't break the no sex before marriage thing
like how do you justify that
hey I wanted to get married but you made it illegal
that vs the unflowered all around the world do so

the ability to marry is the only answer to sex immorality
Abstinence is God’s only policy when it comes to sex before marriage for EVERYONE

so I guess most of us are due to end up in hell either way

Still looking for the LGBT thing

a reply to: Layaly

biblehub.com...

"Man shall not lie with man, for it is an abomination"--Leviticus 18:22

But we know that these are old rules to keep primitive people's in line.

a reply to: Mousygretchen

doesn't say anything about Two Girls?

Seems like every other Man.. a Problem with Two Guys, but Two Girls are "Hot"

a reply to: Darth_Prime
lol.

a reply to: Darth_Prime

anything about Two Girls?

lol

by the way I can't figure out what the P stands for??

a reply to: Mousygretchen

aw haha

only you!! lol

But we know that these are old rules to keep primitive people's in line.

mm that quote is way too funny

originally posted by: bally001
Interesting, I live in Aussie. My partner and I have been together for 21 years, 4 children together. Not married but still get the benefits if we claimed such. On occasions have had the necessity to do so with regards illness. But in saying that we've never considered marriage as we're best mates. Just legally recognised as a defacto couple I guess. Why marry?

Kind regards,

Bally

You should be thankful that it's that way where you're at. Here in America it's not always so easy. Although what you have would be called "Common Law Marriage" here which I think might still exist in some states but not all. I'll have to look into whether that still qualifies here or not and in which states.

originally posted by: makemap
See, that is just asking for slavery. rules can change by who is in control. The people need to know their own rights, that is what the constitution does for the country. In the past no one would even bother with your marriage. Men can even go home to see their sick wife(unless they were too busy fighting wars, crusade). You aren't free if you don't have control of your own assets or private life. You forgot the word husband too. Isn't spouse only a bit dated? What about children? These are unnecessary words for marriage when it should be the right to leave and bury your loved ones or friends.


"Obtaining insurance benefits through a husband's/spouse's employer." Is what it should be called. That may as well be a government/constitution law. Insurance didn't really exist in the past. There can be opposite, where the mother controls the house rather than the father.

I'm not saying I agree with them or anything. I'm just saying that this is how it is and that is why Marriage, legal marriage, is so important to people. That's why it's important to any couple, gay or straight, because if the moment arrives and you aren't in the legal position to do something your husband/wife/partner may end up suffering without you being able to help them. That would really suck.

Did I need to say Husband??? Spouse covers both sides so I don't see the problem.