Man Caught With Knives and a Bomb in Kansas Abortion Clinic, Plot Foiled

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

You're dealing with people that think it's ok to kill women with babies because killing...babies..is bad....because if you kill women with babies....that will....send the message.....that killing......wait...what?

a reply to: Reallyfolks

Those videos remind me of the way psychopaths and sociopaths control people...coerce and manipulate them into doing things without ever saying or suggesting it outright. So I call crock of sh*t on this one.

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
a reply to: Reallyfolks

Those videos remind me of the way psychopaths and sociopaths control people...coerce and manipulate them into doing things without ever saying or suggesting it outright. So I call crock of sh*t on this one.

You're perfectly entitled to your opinion. I am not a lawyer. But I do know, it's not what you know, think, or what the truth is. It's what can be proven in court. From that view probably not. Considering nothing happened no one will see how it would play out

Glad no one got hurt. And if you like it or not I will continue to provide my opinion and let it be known it is an opinion. Call it whatever you want.

As yes, those "pro liferd" sure arent hypocrites eh?

/s

Fanatical right wing Christians: 700
How many times has ISIS tried blowing people up inside the US?

a reply to: LeatherNLace

Are we allowed to call this man a terrorist? Or is that not allowed because he is likely a Christian?

originally posted by: introvert
Let's say this guy did manage to kill some people at the abortion clinic. Let's also say that it was found that he watched the CMP videos and found them to be "motivating".

Would CMP be liable in this case? Could we hold them accountable for their propaganda?

Unfortunately no. That would be like blaming a Catcher in the Rye for the murder of John Lennon... Oh wait, we already tried to do that... Ok blaming Marilyn Manson for the Columbine attack. Oh wait... Hmmm... Well in any case, we aren't supposed to do that.

originally posted by: Aazadan
Fanatical right wing Christians: 700
How many times has ISIS tried blowing people up inside the US?

People can and will call him whatever they want

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
a reply to: Reallyfolks

Those videos remind me of the way psychopaths and sociopaths control people...coerce and manipulate them into doing things without ever saying or suggesting it outright. So I call crock of sh*t on this one.

Like a budget version of MK Ultra, perhaps.

Believable, just provoke people's sensibilities and that's 99% of the incitement right there...


But proving the intent is the key.

originally posted by: Reallyfolks

originally posted by: Aazadan
Fanatical right wing Christians: 700
How many times has ISIS tried blowing people up inside the US?

People can and will call him whatever they want

But will Obama call him a Christian extremist?


*thread winning dance*

Did any of you read the second article?

UPDATE: A 19-year-old man is in custody after police say he brought an explosive device into South Winds Women's Center Monday afternoon.

WPD spokesman Lt. James Espinoza says Moises Trevizo had no intent to set off the explosive and he was not trying to damage the facility.

According to police, Trevizo was applying for a position at the clinic. Officers went through a backpack the man brought with him and found several knives and a pill bottle with a fuse coming out of the top.

Lt. Espinoza says the security guard placed the item in an office and asked people to evacuate the building.

Trevizo was booked on one count of unlawful possession of an explosive. Lt. Espinoza says the device was dangerous and made of materials used to make fireworks.

He told police he had just moved out and had all of his personal belongings with him. Police say they've ruled out any destructive act against the clinic, and that it was just bad judgment for him to bring the bag into the clinic.

He was also booked on an outstanding warrant.

So much for your Christian bashing libfest.

a reply to: Bone75

Oh yea because people just naturally walk around with bombs in their backpacks for no reason. That sounds like a likely excuse... *eye roll*

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs

originally posted by: Reallyfolks

originally posted by: Aazadan
Fanatical right wing Christians: 700
How many times has ISIS tried blowing people up inside the US?

People can and will call him whatever they want

But will Obama call him a Christian extremist?


*thread winning dance*

If you read the article follow up apparently there was no intent to harm, no religion involved at all so my guess is no

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Bone75

Oh yea because people just naturally walk around with bombs in their backpacks for no reason. That sounds like a likely excuse... *eye roll*

Yeah and terrorists just casually hand over their cache of weapons because a security guard asked them to... *eye roll*.

originally posted by: Reallyfolks

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs

originally posted by: Reallyfolks

originally posted by: Aazadan
Fanatical right wing Christians: 700
How many times has ISIS tried blowing people up inside the US?

People can and will call him whatever they want

But will Obama call him a Christian extremist?


*thread winning dance*

If you read the article follow up apparently there was no intent to harm, no religion involved at all so my guess is no

You need a sarcasm detector.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Bone75

Oh yea because people just naturally walk around with bombs in their backpacks for no reason. That sounds like a likely excuse... *eye roll*

My guess is that unless an article came out and said an anti abortion right wing Christian extremist attempted to blow up an abortion clinic people won't buy anything else.

It would be the same from the other side if something didn't fit their predetermined narrative of what happened.

It's sad but this is what passes as intellect these days. The almighty religion/ political views trump all.

a reply to: Reallyfolks

Hey maybe it WAS an honest mistake, and the guy is just an idiot for walking an illegal device that almost ALWAYS gets you assumed to be a terrorist if you have one in your possession into a place that is a very likely target for extremism and even HAD extremism happen to it in the past. But in the grand scheme of things, which is more likely, an idiot mistakenly walks a bomb into an abortion clinic, OR he walked that bomb into it with a purpose?

Then the next question is, if the bomb wasn't meant for the abortion clinic, then what was it meant for? People don't just build IED's to look at them. They are usually built with the intention to detonate them.

I mean I'd probably be more open to believing the kid's account of things if he only had the bagful of knives with no bomb. While still a remarkedly stupid action, it is a lot more believable for someone to walk into a controlled building while forgetting to disarm any personal knives of theirs. However, the existence of the bomb just makes all of that VERY unlikely.

To me, that excuse he gave just sounds like him trying to talk his way out of trouble because he got caught before he could carry out his plan.

originally posted by: Reallyfolks
And if you like it or not I will continue to provide my opinion and let it be known it is an opinion. Call it whatever you want.

I am entirely indifferent to your opinion.

And I will stand by mine that there are consequences to the media's actions and to CMP's actions and also that they probably played some part in all this, intentionally or not.

Let me pull out into the street and totally cut someone off and cause them to swerve and hit a child on a bicycle and kill that child. Not my problem. I never checked my rearview and all is well in my world.

originally posted by: Bone75

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: Bone75

Oh yea because people just naturally walk around with bombs in their backpacks for no reason. That sounds like a likely excuse... *eye roll*

Yeah and terrorists just casually hand over their cache of weapons because a security guard asked them to... *eye roll*.

How do you know he handed it over casually? What if he walked into the building not realizing they had a security guard and by the time he learned they were going to search him he realized it was too late?