drugs for dream-sleep {REM}

throwing one out for the ATS board..... does anyone know of a company or product which enhances dream experience?

we got viagra BUT no cure for cancer or aids....

....how about a drug that teaches more about our minds? a designer drug for lucidity?

look for an herb called "Calea" it is supposedly a dream enhancing herb. Blue Lotus may also help.

Correct, the herb in question is Calea zacatechichi. More info about it can be found here, along with experiences. www.erowid.org...
I've also took a combination of vitamins and herbs to try and reach a more lucid dream state. This consisted of 500 mg of valerian, 6mg of Melatonin and 500mg of B-6. The whole night consisted of very intense dreams that were easily recalled, however they way more strange than a typical night without this combination. There's always mediation you could do or keep a dream journal.

once agian, erowid comes through for us

has anyone here actually tried calea though? sounds interesting...like a very mild trip...

furthermore, anyone know if calea is easy to find at plant stores or anything like that?

Unforunately, it's hard to run across this plant in any sort of plant store. I even doubt that a local headshop in town sells the stuff. I've tried all over town to no avail. Only places to get this kind of thing is throug online entheobotanical shops.

bouncingbearbotanicals.com...
www.iamshaman.com...

Two trusted sites that you can aquire some Calea through.

we had a post going on about this not too long ago. I believe it derailed though and ended up being deleted

Originally posted by maegman
once agian, erowid comes through for us

has anyone here actually tried calea though? sounds interesting...like a very mild trip...

I've had the oppurtunity to try it myself.. my reports are inconclusive, I did not feel anything - no increased dream patterns. I do think it has properties that make it lucid, studies done with Calea and Placebo participants result in more dreams for the Calea camp. I'd have to try it more to get any results I figure.

When I was using the patch to quit smoking, it gave me really lucid dreams when I left it on all night. Rather enjoyable too.

Dont we have a whole thread on Calea already? Ill find it

wow, those are some awesome websites guys.

ive always been a sucker for experimentation, recreational use/abuse. but this has got me thinking that self control and altered states can have a balance.

sort of a '"controlled chaos"',

is that thread still around somewhere?

A reminder folks from the T&C:

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Originally posted by intrepid
A reminder folks from the T&C:

16.) Discussion of illegal activities such as drug use, drug paraphernalia, hacking, etc. are strictly forbidden.

Luckily for us Calea is legal.

Did anyone find a thread dedicated to Calea??

Eh, it turns out all the drugs that do a lot for dreams are still legal, for now.

I've no experience with calea, but I can testify to melatonin: 6mg, especially if used before bed 2-3 nights in a row, will really make your dreams really vivid, and really weird. Surprisingly, I've found by accident that loads of caffeine can also make your dreams more lucid; basically, if you've been working late and have 'too much caffeine to sleep' and force yourself to sleep anyways, 1 in 5 or so of your dreams are pretty much lucid....I really don't recommend this, though, as I found this out by accident and the associated sleeplessness/poor rest/tiredness next day aren't worth it.

go to futurehorizons.net

Somewhere in there, they sell goggles that you sleep with. You have to train yoursel to know that you're dream. Then you're supposed to be able to control your dreams.

Im just stating the facts don't take my word for it.

Well heck -- you guys all just want to dream -- I just want to sleep!! Insomnia sucks big time. Writing this at 2:15 am waiting to be tired enough to lie down for a couple of hours. Then throw some pain on top of the insomnia and you have a winning combination.

That is what we need to come up with -- a way to keep enemies awake so their brain turns to mush -- we could win anything.

jm

Salvia Divinorum, a plant used by native Azteca Shamans of Mexico to take spirit journeys to see the "Female" deity for wisdom.

Real World Translation, be prepared to leave your grip on reality behind.

This plant is in the legal category of Ethnogens, or "God plants".

-ADHDsux4me

I'm with you justme... Some people sleep to dream, we just dream of sleeping (4:30am here)

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