Be wary of the meningitis vaccince

a reply to: IngyBall

Depending on which of the Meningococcal vaccines it was, headaches are actually one of the listed possible side effects. No "detox" (even if such things actually worked) would have any effect on the symptoms since the side effects would presumably be related to the (intentional) immune response. Injection site swelling and fever are also listed as possible side effects for most or all of the vaccines. The possible side effects are basically the types of symptoms commonly experienced with an immune system response which is of course what a vaccine is intended to trigger in the first place.

If it were me, I'd try to fix my sleep schedule. It's possible that what started out as a side effect of the vaccine led to a disruption of your sleep/wake cycle and this has snowballed so that now you're headaches are stemming from that.

a reply to: IngyBall

Thanks for the info.

a reply to: Agartha

Well if you don't believe the websites, the advantages of coconut oil was told to my mom from her doctor friend, whos has over 20 degrees in the medical field, also I just went to random websites that I thought explained the process clearly on them, the websites my mom went to weren't trying to sell you anything they just told you to go to a local health store and get the coconut oil from there.

a reply to: IngyBall

Please try feverfew this is a remedy for severe headaches . Ginger compress using warm water with fresh ginger root use a zester or grater this takes pain away my daughter had the same reaction nothing helped but this also over the counter rmigrane med because of the caffeine constricts blood vessels so the brain isn't engorged with blood this presses against the cranium causing pain feferfiew acts on the brain in this manner as well its a vaso-constrictor .stay hydrated and rest .

What a coincidence. We all have a flu, for me its like feeling yucky, under the weather, but not full fledged, still just as bad cause it drags on. And headache is one symptom. I had my neck in pain for 2 days, now nausea. Was just telling mom that it was probably a menigitis kind of strain.

And they're giving this in flu shots. Well our family isn't inclined to submit to big pharma's chemicals, we don't do shots, but...odd that this is the shot that is being given this summer.

So now I believe they are manufacturing a meningitis scare to encourage the innoculation, OR some trace of the illness is being carried by those who got the shot and are inadvertantly spreading it.

a reply to: Cynthia800

thanks for the advice.

a reply to: IngyBall

Ask you mother to get some arnica herbal cream as well. Thanks for the heads up, Reported to stop the headache within two days. link

originally posted by: Unity_99
So now I believe they are manufacturing a meningitis scare to encourage the innoculation, OR some trace of the illness is being carried by those who got the shot and are inadvertantly spreading it.

The scare my friend is real and the effects of meningitis should be enough to scare anybody without Big Pharma's marketing.

I have been an Pediatric ICU Nurse / Pediatric Transport Nurse Specialist for almost 20 years now. I will never forget the first child I cared for in the ICU. She had Meningococcemia and while we saved her, she lost 3 limbs in the fight. For years we would wage war against this disease and knew ahead of time that 3 or 4 of every ten kids we saw would die. I reluctantly became an expert in the care of these children. None would be left unscared. Flash forward to present day. Last year I had the novelty of getting a panic call from our ICU. They needed help. A child with full blown Meningococcemia had arrived. The problem? None of our nurses had any experience (ranging from 0-10 years) taking care of these kids. NOT A SINGLE ONE. on shift that night. Why you ask would a MAJOR PICU be so unprepared for this admission? No one had ever seen it outside of a book because the vaccine has ALL BUT ELIMINATED IT!
en.wikipedia.org...

a reply to: Gryphon66

i don't think having a problem with a certain vaccine means op is "giving up on science".... (s)he even began the the thread by saying that they weren't going on an anti-vaccine tirade. vaccines, much like the vast world of science you mentioned, are far from perfect.

originally posted by: zombiebbq
a reply to: Gryphon66

i don't think having a problem with a certain vaccine means op is "giving up on science".... (s)he even began the the thread by saying that they weren't going on an anti-vaccine tirade. vaccines, much like the vast world of science you mentioned, are far from perfect.

Thanks for your insight into the poster. I am aware of just how unpleasant a persistent headache/migraine can be. To associate this with a vaccine administered by medical professionals could turn someone against vaccines for life.

Vaccines have saved exponentially more lives than they have harmed, and medical science has done even more. Yes, I know there are problems, yes, Big Pharma, etc. etc.

Still, people don't regularly die from sepsis or from pneumonia or from a dozen other common maladies that used to be death sentences.

a reply to: IngyBall

Have a try at magnesium chloride which is a good immuno-stimulant and highly involved in cns' health.

originally posted by: IngyBall
a reply to: Agartha

Well if you don't believe the websites, the advantages of coconut oil was told to my mom from her doctor friend, whos has over 20 degrees in the medical field, also I just went to random websites that I thought explained the process clearly on them, the websites my mom went to weren't trying to sell you anything they just told you to go to a local health store and get the coconut oil from there.

Well, I work in the medical field, although I only have one degree
Ingyball, before you believe a treatment, conventional or not, try to find out how it works, even if a doctor recommends it, if they do they should be able to explain the process behind it. I just don't see any real explanation anywhere about the chemical process that allows coconut oil to remove those chemicals you think you have in your body.

originally posted by: IngyBall
Well if you don't believe the websites, the advantages of coconut oil was told to my mom from her doctor friend, whos has over 20 degrees in the medical field,

Ah. That doctor friend of your mum with over 20 degrees.

Thing is, my mum's doctor friend with over 30 degrees says coconut oil doesn't work like that.

So who are you going to believe? 20+ degrees of experience or 30+ ?

originally posted by: InverseLookingGlass
a reply to: IngyBall

Every vaccine does damage. The religion of vaccines does the most damage.

Pharma owns both parties and the Dr.s. They are coming for you and your families. 200+ different vaccines currently in the pipeline.

These people will be held responsible with the help of those waking up and spreading the word. .

"Every vaccine does damage"
No they don't. Citation please.
"The religion of vaccines does the most damage".
You're confusing a belief system with science.
Anti-vax=belief system. Vaccinations=science.
And "does the most damage"
To what exactly? You've not referenced what the "most" is against.
I can only assume, given the evidence and facts, that it does the most damage to disease.

"I would support prosecuting the apologists for callous disregard for humanity"
But since the anti anti-vaxxers are correct I have to assume that you and your Luddite ilk will therefore accept full responsibility for those who succumb to vaccine preventable diseases.
And if prosecution is an option I assume you fully accept that too.
Ah, but that's the thing, you lot accept no responsibility for anything you do whatsoever.
That's why you do it, no comebacks.

originally posted by: FredT

originally posted by: Unity_99
So now I believe they are manufacturing a meningitis scare to encourage the innoculation, OR some trace of the illness is being carried by those who got the shot and are inadvertantly spreading it.

The scare my friend is real and the effects of meningitis should be enough to scare anybody without Big Pharma's marketing.

I have been an Pediatric ICU Nurse / Pediatric Transport Nurse Specialist for almost 20 years now. I will never forget the first child I cared for in the ICU. She had Meningococcemia and while we saved her, she lost 3 limbs in the fight. For years we would wage war against this disease and knew ahead of time that 3 or 4 of every ten kids we saw would die. I reluctantly became an expert in the care of these children. None would be left unscared. Flash forward to present day. Last year I had the novelty of getting a panic call from our ICU. They needed help. A child with full blown Meningococcemia had arrived. The problem? None of our nurses had any experience (ranging from 0-10 years) taking care of these kids. NOT A SINGLE ONE. on shift that night. Why you ask would a MAJOR PICU be so unprepared for this admission? No one had ever seen it outside of a book because the vaccine has ALL BUT ELIMINATED IT!
en.wikipedia.org...

Good post.
Having worked in a paediatric ICU menningococcal admissions would sink our hearts more than anything else.
Absolutely dreadful disease.

That really sucks man! As you've found out the hard way, if you have an adverse reaction to a vaccine you really should avoid that particular one again. This is harder than it sounds since a lot of people (especially doctors) want to discount adverse reactions, don't want to admit there's adverse reactions in the first place, or insist that the symptoms you're suffering from couldn't POSSIBLY have been caused by the vaccines. Unfortunately, I don't think there's much you can do at this point other than wait it out. Maybe drinking tons of water will help flush your system- IDK.

I am currently on an uphill battle with my pediatrician (mainly his beeyatch nurse) because my son seems to be very sensitive to vaccines. You really can't trust doctors, and you damn sure can't trust big pharma, it's really up to you to do the research and figure out what's best for YOU.

The general rule in medicine is to weigh the benefits v. risks- because a lot of 'treatments' do more harm than good. Obviously the risks outweigh the benefits here, so you need to be adamant that they mark this down as an adverse reaction and send a report to VAERS. And I don't know if a booster is recommended, but if I were you I would NEVER take that vaccine again. No one can make you if it's noted in your medical chart that you've had an adverse reaction to it. Just like my son must be permitted to enter day care/school even if he's on a delayed schedule.

PS The meningitis vaccine wasn't as widespread when I was in college (or maybe not even available) and my boyfriend and I both caught it. It really sucked...like the über flu...but we both recovered just fine without hospitalization. If you are young and healthy your body can usually beat anything that comes at it.

Good luck to you, hope you feel better soon!

a reply to: Pardon?

Every body is different. Every body reacts differently to vaccines and the preservatives they are kept in. EVERY vaccine has negative side effects, up to and including death. A vast majority of people who receive vaccines tolerate them just fine. But unfortunately the casualties from vaccines are higher than they really should be because of "everybody should be vax'd"ers, if everyone would exercise a little common sense and be a little more cautious, the number of casualties COULD be reduced even more.
* by casualties, I mean all the adverse effects, not just death

Science is not infallible. Medicine is not infallible. Humans (including doctors and scientists) are DEFINITELY not infallible.

As I already told the OP, the general rule in medicine is to weight out the benefits v. risks and base your personal decisions on THAT, not to blanketly accept something just because it's recommended.

I AM NOT ANTI-VAX. So please don't come back with a bunch of 'anti-vaxers are going to kill us all with the measles' crap. Not saying you will, but it's happened to me on other threads.

originally posted by: IngyBall
a reply to: Gryphon66

You know you don't have to bash me for a simple mistake, did I mention I'm not feeling well? I come hear warning people about a potential side effect of the vaccine, while I'm in bed with a painful headache may I mind you, and all I'm getting is backlash. I don't care if you guys are being sarcastic or joking, that's not what this thread is for. what it's meant to be is for people to see that some people are vulnerable of having the vaccine not properly spread throughout the body and causing a severe headache when it happens.

Hey Ingy, there are many good folks here at ATS, but unfortunately, there are a lot of shills and as soon as the word vaccine and anything spoken against them appears you can bet they will be out in force.

a reply to: Rezlooper

Translation:

"I can't handle opposing viewpoints from mine so I'll dismiss them all as paid shills in order to avoid having my personal beliefs challenged".

a reply to: GetHyped

Yeah, something like that.