cheap electronics

so this morning i tried to turn my tv on and nothing happened. changed the batteries and nothing. unplugged it and plugged it back in and it came on but the setup screen was on and flashing really fast. turned it back off and back on. all was well.
went to work and the tv has been off all day.
just tried to turn it on and nothing. unplugged it and plugged it back in and nothing. it keeps making a clicking sound like it is trying to turn on. nothing happens though. not with the remote and not on the actual tv.
my fault for buying a cheap one? maybe
it is/was a 65" insignia. i thought it was a 70 but it was a 65. not that it matters.
i bought this tv new from best buy in february. it was like 700 bucks and after 6 months its done...

this is not the first time with new electronics this has happened.

last year i bought a smaller tv. a 42" sharp i think from wal mart. it never worked right out of the box. had to take it back.
i also bought a blu ray last year. an lg. after about 2 months it wouldnt connect to the internet.

yeah i suppose i could buy top of the line and i could get the extended warranty. i usually dont but i will probably start.

it just seems like the quality of all this electronic # these days sucks.
i remember the tv's we had in the house when i was a kid lasting for years. decades.

my mother has a tube style tv in her basement that we bought when i was in junior high. 20 years and that damn thing still works.

its like it is all low quality disposable # these days. there are not even tv repair shops around....
just a bummer

so now i am back to using the 42" sharp which i guess is better than nothing but it looks goofy now that i am used to the big daddy.

what are your thoughts on electronics these days?

i have an extra check in october so i am definitely going to buy another new tv. what brand do you all recommend?

on a side note. have any of you had a problem like this? you think it is something i could fix cheap?

we had no power outage and nothing happened to the tv. i was watching last night but this morning it just wouldnt turn on.

like i said it makes that clicking sound that it makes when you actually do turn it on. it makes the sound and then about 3 seconds later it does it again and keeps doing it.

really sucks. electronics are cheap as far as cost goes these days but quality is cheap too

/end rant

sounds like a toasted power supply...

not enough juice to power everything up, so it resets.. over and over.

Might be repairable by someone? Is there a general electronics repair shop around?

What's the warranty period?

Could be from a "brown out". A brown out is when the power flow gets slightly interrupted, like turning down a faucet to lessen the flow of water. Did the lights dim or flicker at all? I had a brown out kill a motherboard once. It sucked.

I just looked at Best Buy's website and all the Insignia TV's I saw had 1 year warranties. You should be able to take it back if it's only 6 months old.

originally posted by: Autorico
I just looked at Best Buy's website and all the Insignia TV's I saw had 1 year warranties. You should be able to take it back if it's only 6 months old.

im going to call them. of course you probably have to have your original receipt and i dont. i am terrible at keeping that stuff. i set it in a 'safe place' and then i never see it again.
im probably going to be out of luck though

autorico, nothing like that happened when i was watching the tv. there may have been a flicker or something in the middle of the night but the tv was not on then

a reply to: Mugly

You should not need your receipt if you registered your TV.....did you?....

a reply to: Mugly

If you remember approx when you got it, and if there are other items on the receipt, they should be able to look it up.

a reply to: Mugly

Everything rusts or decays. 2nd law of thermodynamics.

Also, increasing complexity introduces more points of failure.

Just does.

a reply to: Mugly

The consumer, especially, the average, middle-class consumer in the Western world is being taken for a big ride. Virtually all electronic boards today are done by robots/slave labor at minimal costs for materials and time. Any board will contain dozens if not hundreds, if not thousands of parts and solder connections. Most of those parts are so cheap they hardly have a cost as an individual part.

But your equipment from phone, TV to auto has tons of those boards and when one of those minuscule parts goes haywire, you are in serious trouble with that device. More than likely you will replace it. Less likely, say, with a clothes dryer, you will replace/have replaced that board with an electrified shock to your pocketbook at the expense. Few will be the homeowner than can fix any electronic device in our homes these days, and we have literally dozens these days.

It is an expensive, vicious circle we enter into with any of our devices today. It used to be that an extended warranty for an item such as a TV was a waste of money, the products were that decent. These days always buy the extended warranty even when it, itself, is a shocking amount.

I was going to start a rant today about my new pop-up toaster. It's great, it looks good, it toasts the bread nice and evenly. Where's the problem? The bloody thing hardly pops-up. Every time, I burn my fingers when I retrieve the toast.

And, another thing. Electric kettles that don't pour properly - what's so hard about providing a spout on a kettle that enables it to pour without leaking scalding hot water all over the kitchen counter? I've got two that are barely usable because of that problem, so now I'm going to have to buy a third to see if it will be any more efficient.

I usually buy middling-priced items from what I think are reputable manufacturers. I mean, toast is toast and hot water is hot water. I don't need anything smart or super expensive just to do something as simple as that.

As to your TV - have you tried thumping it?

I've been shocked at the number of times a good whack can fix something.

usually what happens, if u actually take it apart and look at it, the capacitors on the power board usually go bad, ie: not enough power to operate the tv, i always repair mine, usually costs me about 50 to 100$ plus soldering time...saves me a ton of money, screw buyin another 50inch plasma lol

a reply to: Mugly

I'm still hung up on you saying you changed the batteries.

Seriously, you used to get better quality for the same price if not cheaper. Some electronics are cheaper, but back in the 90's you could buy a good t.v. for $300 and it would last forever. The one I bought in 97, I had until I chucked in 2008 when I gave up t.v. all together.

The MP3 player I bought in the early 2000's for $50 lasted 11 years. Every one have purchased since has lasted less than a year on average and cost around $80

I still have my grandmothers handheld mixer from the 60's. She gave it to me after I had 4 cheap Walmart ones break in a ones year time period.

You know what? It's our own fault. We fell for the new and improved line of B.S. the corps. sell us. They make more profit off of making cheap crap and then getting us to constantly buy the newer model because it has more features or whatever, than they do making good quality products that last. If it lasts, they can't make profit off of us buying a new one.

We are the morons that fell for it. BTW there is a reason you rarely see repair shops anymore. We are a throw away culture.

a reply to: Mugly

Were all these blown electronic-examples you give...had they all been plugged into the same socket or placed along the same electric line in your house/room/apt? I know it was over time...but...that could be a problem...just wonderin".

we have a seiki tv and it works fine for us.

originally posted by: Mugly
so this morning i tried to turn my tv on and nothing happened. changed the batteries and nothing. unplugged it and plugged it back in and it came on but the setup screen was on and flashing really fast. turned it back off and back on. all was well.
went to work and the tv has been off all day.
just tried to turn it on and nothing. unplugged it and plugged it back in and nothing. it keeps making a clicking sound like it is trying to turn on. nothing happens though. not with the remote and not on the actual tv.
my fault for buying a cheap one? maybe
it is/was a 65" insignia. i thought it was a 70 but it was a 65. not that it matters.
i bought this tv new from best buy in february. it was like 700 bucks and after 6 months its done...

this is not the first time with new electronics this has happened.

last year i bought a smaller tv. a 42" sharp i think from wal mart. it never worked right out of the box. had to take it back.
i also bought a blu ray last year. an lg. after about 2 months it wouldnt connect to the internet.

yeah i suppose i could buy top of the line and i could get the extended warranty. i usually dont but i will probably start.

it just seems like the quality of all this electronic # these days sucks.
i remember the tv's we had in the house when i was a kid lasting for years. decades.

my mother has a tube style tv in her basement that we bought when i was in junior high. 20 years and that damn thing still works.

its like it is all low quality disposable # these days. there are not even tv repair shops around....
just a bummer

so now i am back to using the 42" sharp which i guess is better than nothing but it looks goofy now that i am used to the big daddy.

what are your thoughts on electronics these days?

i have an extra check in october so i am definitely going to buy another new tv. what brand do you all recommend?

on a side note. have any of you had a problem like this? you think it is something i could fix cheap?

we had no power outage and nothing happened to the tv. i was watching last night but this morning it just wouldnt turn on.

like i said it makes that clicking sound that it makes when you actually do turn it on. it makes the sound and then about 3 seconds later it does it again and keeps doing it.

really sucks. electronics are cheap as far as cost goes these days but quality is cheap too

/end rant

Sooner or later everyone will realise these cheap nasty products from china, or wherever, are extremely expensive due to the very high churn rate of replacement. By then the skills required to make good quality ones have now disappeared as paul craig roberts reminds us.

I brought an electric razor in 2004 and stopped using it in 2014 because the cutters were blunt. I paid $180.00 Au for it which = $18 per year. I brought a $100 electric replacement razor and the cutters need replacing every 6 months at $50 each which = $1000.00 over 10 years.

I happen to think that in addition to any other reason these poor quality extremely expensive goods come along is a deliberate plan to:
1 - keep us spending, spending, spending, spending and spending so we remain broke, broke and broke at our Just Over Broke (JOB)
2 - use the resultant 'waste mountain' as further argument for Agenda 21 measures and depopulation arguments.

originally posted by: In4ormant
a reply to: Mugly

I'm still hung up on you saying you changed the batteries.

in the remote.
thought i said that

If in doubt give it a clout !!!