Start stocking Up on water and Canned food guys...

can you imagine?
what if the Fuku radiation scare is all true?
what if the MSM started reporting on this regularly.
what if the govt was pressured into admitting that radiation permiated our atmosphere, fell to earth with the rain, blew around with the wind.
what if we were officially told sea food was irradiated?
can you imagine?
the pandemonium created by disclosure would be catastrophic!!

the fishing industry would collapse.
the airlines industry would be crippled.
the tourism industry would impload.
the food industry would be shaken to its core.
the list goes on.

radiation..[i think] is a massive fear that was introduced into our psyche in 1945, and has continued to grow
through the years.
it is so much better to distract us than it is to tell us. after all..it IS all about the money.

originally posted by: pl3bscheese
a reply to: diggindirt

It's a good thing we do have the "actual science" these decades later.

Sad to hear that happened long ago.

DUH!!! It is happening NOW! Those people are still suffering and dying from the ignorance passed along to them by "scientists" employed by the corporate and government agencies.
What I was trying to point out to you is that we don't have the "actual science" on a scenario like a total meltdown with water escaping to the oceans because it has never before happened. Just as people had never before handled enriched uranium on a daily basis, long-term.
After spending something in the neighborhood of $46 billion dollars on "clean-up" of the site---the costs keep escalating because new discoveries bring new problems to be solved because the "actual science" was incomplete or just plain wrong.
Theories tested in a lab are "actual science" in the strictest sense but theories tested in a lab don't give the complete picture simply because the hypothetical model can't include the endless possibilities in a disaster this large.

a reply to: EternalSolace

Oh. Thanks. Well, that does make me feel better. And if they are in a jovial mood, it must be all good.

a reply to: diggindirt

Very well then, decades of testing in laboratories and live situations in the ocean, desert, and space with nuclear arms, and reactors have given us little understanding.

I have been "DUH"d, and that's that. Good day.

a reply to: pl3bscheese

lol. If I had a genie in a bottle, I would wish for brains like yours. Why don't the smart people save the world? What are brains for, to study?

a reply to: zinuru

I never knew what to think about the rumors of Fukushima radiation being significantly more than what has been reported in the mainstream news. Conspiracy theory shows like Rense have been especially concerned with this story. I kind of forgot about it.

But the other week I gave a listen to a source I deem quite credible, David Sereda, and his research and thoughts on the matter. From what I understand, even the Pacific Northwest of North America is stewing in nuclear radiation far beyond safe levels. Sereda is currently coming up with a special nutritional blend to help the body detox and combat this toxicity. He is living in northern British Columbia.

His program about Fukushima is quite interesting:



p.s. The other day I noticed those huge jugs of water, which can be bought for as little as 4 bucks each, and I have decided to get a few each week or so and keep a collection in my basement/crawl space - just in case.

originally posted by: zinuru

If this continues the world as we know it will end. Im not a huge environmentalist nor will I ever claim to be one.

I mean I've littered once or twice before (shame on me) but, this is on an other level entirely. This is comparitively worse than the BP oil spill imho and there are gonna be HUGE impacts to civilization as far as humans are concerned in GENERAL due to this leakage.

One thing to note here is that Fukushima is far worse than the BP oil spill on a level we can't even imagine, because there are microbes that consume fossil fuels and they went to work on that oil spill and ate up much of that oil before it could do everlasting damage. There are microbes that consume methane gas as well. It's all perfect harmony in nature really, but as far as I know, there aren't any microbes that consume radiation. And therefore, this radiation leak is not something good ole Mother Nature is prepared for like she has been for oil spills, methane gas leaks and other fossil fuel disasters. This will go on and on and soon...there will be no turning back.

a reply to: zinuru

Doom will come when you least expect it, that's what I've learnt. I've stopped making predictions and giving dates. So is doom really coming? Yes. When? when you least expect it.

"not to mention the legalization of gay marriage"
then why did you?
Gay marriage! Its the end of mankind!

far to many humans any way 8 billllion...

a reply to: zinuru

Its been over 4 years since the earthquake and accident. People such as yourself have been screaming doom on for 4 years. Do I believe it is good for the environment, well of course not and there will be some impact. Chernobyl was along the same lines with everyone screaming doom on but in reality while life changed a great deal for the people in the area, as in they can no longer live there, the local environment has come back with both plant life and animals.

Every time something dies in the pacific, which by the way is every day loads of people stand up screaming Fukushima. I live in Hawaii and I don't claim to know how the currents are but we are a lot closer to Japan than the east coast and have yet to see any mass die offs or even high levels of radiation.

I too say welcome to ATS but need to ask you what Gay Marriage has to do with impending doom which you mention as being on your mind, homosexuality has been around since the dawn of time and has yet to be responsible for any doom related catastrophes so why even mention it ? Seems you are a little confused. This is just dumb and if you believe gay marriage is going bring some sort of god related doom to the world then all the canned beans on the store shelves will not save you so go ahead and buy all you can and make my stock go up in the bean companies, and make the bean counters really happy.

Great thread, for your next one, you might want to look into the changing migration patters for marine life, mass die offs in the pacific and other odd occurrences that are being blamed on climate change, weather patterns, ect... which is all BS. A few examples; Just this year, the seal population off the west coast has taken catastrophic losses, simply because they refuse to eat. Great White sharks are moving into once unoccupied waters such as the gulf coast, large whales have started to avoid the pacific entirely, ect.

If it's so bad, why not back everybody off and just drop a small nuke on it? There's been plenty of above ground tests, so one more blast shouldn't matter too much, I mean if it's really killing the ocean Japan might have to just put up with a dead zone for a while.

originally posted by: woogleuk
a reply to: Chrisfishenstein

One could only hope that other countries would step in before it became a real threat to global health.

The US is one of the first countries to be affected by Fukushima. We should be stepping in now and should have before. What are other countries going to do?

What exactly is stepping in? This is beyond a money issue.

a reply to: zinuru

Your post:

"Officials: “Trillions of becquerels of radioactive material still flowing into sea” at Fukushima"

Actual post:

"It has been implied that trillions of becquerels of radioactive materials are still flowing into the sea"

Big difference between those two statements. Stay away from the enenews doom porn purveyors and quote the actual statement. Cherry picking only serves the doom porn crowd.

People at enenews are convinced we all died three years ago to Fukushima radiation and we are only ghosts now... or maybe we will all die tomorrow due to Fukushima radiation,,,, no wait... it is next week for sure that we will all die from Fukushima radiation.

The Japanese really screwed the pooch with Fukushima, of that there is no doubt. But calling it the end of the world is a huge stretch.

Fortunatly for me and mine...

Short term I have a water heater always full, and enough food.

Long term we live near elk, deer, springs, cows,... for miles and miles.

a reply to: DJMSN

If you read my post you would've noticed the part where I said "albeit long over do". I was speaking on the largest and most important victory that that the gay community achieved. This news was huge imho however there should be daily Fukushima updates imho just because it's not getting BETTER.

I had no intention of mentioning gays in a derogatory context. It was more of a pleasant surprise to know that I live in an era where the law realizes they made a huge mistake..

AND CORRECTED IT!

They should legalize weed next.

a reply to: RickinVa

In my own defense I directly quoted the title of the article however I will also take your advice moving forward. What are more valuable sources of news in your opinion?

a reply to: zinuru

I did see your post after I read the original and didn't have a chance to reply back until now. I understand but in your initial post you brought the gay marriage up as if it has something to do with doom and then answered in another post later with your "overdo" comment. No harm no foul as I was just curious, but yes I was ready to pounce if you believed it was leading us to doom and gloom so apologies for not getting back as soon as I saw you second post but had to run.

a reply to: dashen

Ostrich don't bury their heads. The misconception could be from a distance when they eat they keep their heads close to the ground.
I used to raise them.

originally posted by: woogleuk
Whilst the ongoing contamination isn't good, I don't think we are at panic stations just yet, nor should we be at all.

The ocean is rather large, by the time any of the nasties have gotten a few miles from Fukushima they are diluted to a point where it shouldn't really be much of a concern.

They will talk all day since 1992 about Iran getting nukes any day now, but they won't mention that several reactors melted into the earth. There doesn't seem to be any way to end the contamination. So you know... things will be dying. It's not really something you need to make people aware of because... there is no answer.