Getting Pissed at Fox News

I haven't had the chance to see the debate coverage on TV yet, but I've read all the news online from various sources. But let me tell you...I'm pretty pissed off at Fox News at the moment. I'm not shocked or surprised...but angry.

I'm liking Trump. While I don't know if I would vote for him, the words and attitude coming out of his mouth reflect my views. Usually, Fox News reflects my views for the most part. But Fox showed some colors last night that have caused me to reevaluate. Apparently, they have decided that what is best for the Republican party is what they will support. That is a far cry from representing the best interests of Conservatives or individuals with right leaning opinions. I don't give a crap about the Republicans, their party or the GOP. When their views match mine...I support their views. I don't support them as individuals or a group.

The idea that the "right" is ticked off that Trump refused to pledge support for whomever is selected by the GOP to run for the Presidency tells me they are looking for little more than followers that will blindly support their group. I support no group for the sake of the group...I support ideas that match mine, opinions that reflect mine. I don't vote for a "person" or a "group"...I vote for what the person or group promises to do, what they say they value. And the current pack of Republicans in Washington don't reflect my views. They aren't doing enough. They haven't fought ObamaCare to the extent promised, they haven't battled illegal amnesty to the extent they stated and they haven't done a lot more.

Hey...all you Republicans who support the group no matter what. YOU ARE FOOLS! If YOUR leaders and wanna-be-leaders support their own group they may NOT support your views, values and opinions. Apparently those are secondary. They only care about their jobs, their continued paychecks and power and your opinions fall to the side. I know it is the same with the left...who for the most part don't support many of my views...but the right has become a big let-down recently. "Just get us the House"..."now get us the Senate"..."Now we need the Presidency". You fooled me twice...a third time is not gonna happen without good reason.

I'll take my chances on Trump regardless how he runs. I want MY voice echoed in Washington...not empty promises that echo something else once elected. I don't give a flying crap about "The Republican Party" because they aren't keeping their promises. I won't vote for a Democrat because they never support my views. So Trump it is!!! I'll have to take a chance and see what happens.

Fox News...GOP...and their supporters...WAKE UP! We don't want a group that ignores our wishes. We want a leader that does what WE TELL THEM TO DO! One that keeps promises and isn't a liar. One that will speak OUR words and OUR values and OUR interests. If you don't...you are no better than the liberal hacks you claim to battle.

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Where do you get the idea that Trump 'will do what we tell him to do'? He is not that kind of guy. He could never be President, it's just a big show for him.

As for FOX news, they usually look foolish enough, they know they need to be somewhat realistic about Trump.

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

I'm British so please forgive my confusion but why would anyone pledge their support to a candidate who to me seems like a figurehead for corporate America , you want someone who is part of the problem to be the answer ?

I thought my county's politics was messed up but you guys never fail to amaze me.

originally posted by: reldra
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Where do you get the idea that Trump 'will do what we tell him to do'? He is not that kind of guy. He could never be President, it's just a big show for him.

As for FOX news, they usually look foolish enough, they know they need to be somewhat realistic about Trump.

I don't know Trump will make good on his words. I know the left don't support many of my views and I'm severely questioning the GOP now. Sometimes...you have to make the best choice, from a pool of bad choices. But today...right now...I would have to give my vote to Trump. If for nothing more than his words. Everyone else has either said or shown that they won't do what people like me want done. Hell...they aren't even pretending they will.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

I'm British so please forgive my confusion but why would anyone pledge their support to a candidate who to me seems like a figurehead for corporate America , you want someone who is part of the problem to be the answer ?

I thought my county's politics was messed up but you guys never fail to amaze me.

You are correct. However...when there are only two real parties and one doesn't support your views at all, the the other is only out to keep their jobs...you are left with few choices. While Trump could well be a liar that won't make good on any of his words...the others have already proven they won't. So you take a chance on a potential liar...rather than someone who you already know won't do what you want.

originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE

originally posted by: reldra
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Where do you get the idea that Trump 'will do what we tell him to do'? He is not that kind of guy. He could never be President, it's just a big show for him.

As for FOX news, they usually look foolish enough, they know they need to be somewhat realistic about Trump.

I don't know Trump will make good on his words. I know the left don't support many of my views and I'm severely questioning the GOP now. Sometimes...you have to make the best choice, from a pool of bad choices. But today...right now...I would have to give my vote to Trump. If for nothing more than his words. Everyone else has either said or shown that they won't do what people like me want done. Hell...they aren't even pretending they will.

Trump will absolutely NOT make good on his words. He is a cut-throat business man, first and foremost. He will tell you any and everything you want to hear to get what he wants and soon as he has it will cut you down with out a flinch. He sure as heck didn't get to where he is today without F'ing over many of folks along the way and you can bet he will bring that mentality right with him into the oval office and the People will become enemy number one in his never ending pursuit of that green piece of paper.

Trump and people like Trump is whats killing this nation. Bleeding it dry to line their own pockets.

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Thanks for the reply.
Given the choice of voting for the best of a bad bunch or not voting I choose not voting , or at least spoiling the ballot paper so the vote won't count.
I chose not to vote in our recent election because I couldn't in all good conscience vote for any of them as none reflected my views , some see that as a cop out but I believe choosing a leader requires you to believe and trust what they say and promise.

Ballot papers should come with a none of the above option so people like myself can register our displeasure at the system and stale choices offered.

How do you know when a politician is lying , his lips move of course.

originally posted by: SgtHamsandwich

originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE

originally posted by: reldra
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Where do you get the idea that Trump 'will do what we tell him to do'? He is not that kind of guy. He could never be President, it's just a big show for him.

As for FOX news, they usually look foolish enough, they know they need to be somewhat realistic about Trump.

I don't know Trump will make good on his words. I know the left don't support many of my views and I'm severely questioning the GOP now. Sometimes...you have to make the best choice, from a pool of bad choices. But today...right now...I would have to give my vote to Trump. If for nothing more than his words. Everyone else has either said or shown that they won't do what people like me want done. Hell...they aren't even pretending they will.

Trump will absolutely NOT make good on his words. He is a cut-throat business man, first and foremost. He will tell you any and everything you want to hear to get what he wants and soon as he has it will cut you down with out a flinch. He sure as heck didn't get to where he is today without F'ing over many of folks along the way and you can bet he will bring that mentality right with him into the oval office and the People will become enemy number one in his never ending pursuit of that green piece of paper.

Trump and people like Trump is whats killing this nation. Bleeding it dry to line their own pockets.

You may well be right...but he hasn't already screwed over the American people. Everyone else has. Both parties. If you've got three snarling dogs looking at you and you must feed one...and two have bitten your hand before, you take your chance with the third. I want what most "republicans" want with a bit of libertarian.

PS: You don't know what he will do. You believe he will not make good on his words. The others have already proven they won't keep their words.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Thanks for the reply.
Given the choice of voting for the best of a bad bunch or not voting I choose not voting , or at least spoiling the ballot paper so the vote won't count.
I chose not to vote in our recent election because I couldn't in all good conscience vote for any of them as none reflected my views , some see that as a cop out but I believe choosing a leader requires you to believe and trust what they say and promise.

Ballot papers should come with a none of the above option so people like myself can register our displeasure at the system and stale choices offered.

How do you know when a politician is lying , his lips move of course.

Your final sentence is correct. So...why not vote for the non-politician? You are, of course, free to vote or not vote. But if I'm going to be ticked off about the outcome later...I have to at least have my say. Otherwise...I'm a hypocrite.

I was not even considering voting republican, but I am giving Trump a second look. I like that he filed bankruptcy four times. I hope he would do that with our debt. 0 it out.

a reply to: gortex

I'm British so please forgive my confusion but why would anyone pledge their support to a candidate who to me seems like a figurehead for corporate America

Name a single MS western politician who isn't a figurehead for the corporate world? American or other wise.

Anyway, that whole republican debate felt completely staged to me. Imo, payed shrills were in the crowed arcing people up to boo Trump and support Bush... Bush will be the next president, resistance is futile. Why even bother living in some delusion that western society is a democracy?

We're all living in a capitalist controlled world, corporations got us all on lock down. People just make complete idiots of themselves when they pretend they have any kind of choice of how there government is run.

a reply to: gortex

Trump is an arrogant jackass who said some racist remarks and now people love him.

Racism, still going strong in the USofA.

originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE

PS: You don't know what he will do. You believe he will not make good on his words. The others have already proven they won't keep their words.

Fair enough. You're right, I don't know what he will do.

This is probably the wrong thread for me anyway as I am biased against conservatives and Republicans so I shall humbly bow out as my presence here is not constructive at all lol.

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

I'd be happy to vote for a none politician if they reflected my opinions , I don't see how a billionaire would understand the reality of most regular peoples lives or have their best interests at heart.

I would still decry the government even if I had voted as they would not represent my views even though I had voted , I don't see it as hypocritical but as my right as a UK citizen.

There can be no change without change , there will be no change unless we force it.

originally posted by: WeAreAWAKE
Usually, Fox News reflects my views for the most part. But Fox showed some colors last night that have caused me to reevaluate. Apparently, they have decided that what is best for the Republican party is what they will support.

You're just noticing this now? You must not have been a Ron Paul supporter in 2012.

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

Name a single MS western politician who isn't a figurehead for the corporate world? American or other wise.

Jeremy Corbyn

a reply to: gortex

When the US candidates were being paraded, I couldn't help being disturbed by how far away they are from any normal, average people. These guys have been raised in privileged enclaves and won't have a clue about typical issues facing everyone else.

I feel more in common with a Bangladeshi taxi driver than the Trumps and Bushes of this world.

The same goes for most of the world's leaders and wannabes. Just a bunch of bastards who've created the rules that ensure there will always be a ruling class.

I'm just throwing peanuts cos I've no idea how to 'equalise' the world or fix a system that's so obviously broken. 'Broken' from my perspective...to Bush and Trump, the system is A-OKAY

a reply to: gortex

During the Labour Government, between 1997 and 2010, Corbyn was the most rebellious Labour MP, regularly defying three-line whips. In the 2005–2010 Parliament alone he defied the whip 238 times, approximately 25% of all votes

Jeremy Corbyn

I don't know mate.... Seem's like the bloke gets regularly smacked back into line by his supreme capitalists overlords, lol.

a reply to: WeAreAWAKE

Why are you pissed at Fox?

It was a question that many have been asking, including a lot of people here. If Trump fails to get the nomination, will he mount a third party challenge? Do you or do you not think that was a valid question to put out there? I think it was. If you are a journalist, it's one you should ask. Such a move has possible concerns and ramifications all over, even for Democrats.

Did you want them to be CNN and ignore questions that are on everybody's mind?

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

Can't see how you came to that conclusion , to me he's true to himself and to his values , he is a man of the people who works for and represents the people , he is the antithesis of Trump and in my view part of the change I'm looking for.

In the 2005–2010 Parliament alone he defied the whip 238 times, approximately 25% of all votes