cop draws his gun because a person was filming him?

originally posted by: ugmold

Rohnert park is a pretty upscale town, just north of San Fran across the golden gate.....those houses there, probably go in the neighborhood of $600,000 and up

originally posted by: Badgered1
a reply to: spirit_horse

Look for ACLU App. Android, and Apple. It streams directly to their server.

That will work for now, sooner or later the cops will show up with cell jammers and then carry on knowing you can't stream anymore, then they will take your phone after you have no more resistance to offer.

I won't let anyone film me or record me while I'm working. I don't care whatever asshole wants to do it. I will not aid the manufacture of any evidence, regardless of what it's about. Once they turn it on, I'm done talking. There are a huge number of cop-resisters on here. I'm thinking they're mostly people who got busted for dope, shoplifting, DUI. Some misdemeanor arrest and they never could get over it. I know a guy like that. Hates them so much and he lets them know. They ran him in for nothing in particular; just to show him who runs the streets.
a reply to: blackthorne

a reply to: rhynouk

That's the way it's supposed to be. Unless you intend to fire the gun you're not supposed to take it out. You could either take that to mean this cop intended to shoot the guy, or he was acting contrary to training.

a reply to: LoneWanderer1307

The crux of the article was that if police become so obsessed with their own safety that they throw the legitimate safety concerns of others out the window, and constantly resort to force, then it will cause a serious erosion of the public trust in police.

Way, way too late. There are still many who support police, but there are a fast growing number of people who don't. That the incidents happen at all is bad enough, but the lack of reaction by their superiors is worse.

a reply to: Parthin96

There are a huge number of cop-resisters on here. I'm thinking they're mostly people who got busted for dope, shoplifting, DUI. Some misdemeanor arrest and they never could get over it.

So, if we don't agree with those tactics, we must be criminals, hurt that we were caught doing something.

And making blanket assumptions condemning everyone who doesn't kiss their ass, makes you either a boot licker or a corrupt cop with an attitude who stands for his "brothers" and lies when they decide to give an "attitude adjustment". We're making assumptions here, right? Never mind that these clowns gave an oath to uphold the law, let them do what they want and if some citizen thinks he has the right to call them on their dereliction, well, just plug'em on the spot, right? I mean, who do these people think they are, believing in the Constitution and it's law? That officers should stand by the oath they've given?
Threatening the use of deadly force at the slightest provocation is the sign of a coward and a bully. Something that is happening all to often.

a reply to: LeatherNLace

The officer is literally in the heart of Liberal America, and calls someone a "Crazy Constitutionalist"...

I am not exactly sure how I am trolling considering it is completely on topic.

There are zero excuses for the officers actions, but clearly he doesn't believe in the constitution, just like most Liberals.

originally posted by: Parthin96
I won't let anyone film me or record me while I'm working. I don't care whatever asshole wants to do it. I will not aid the manufacture of any evidence, regardless of what it's about. Once they turn it on, I'm done talking. There are a huge number of cop-resisters on here. I'm thinking they're mostly people who got busted for dope, shoplifting, DUI. Some misdemeanor arrest and they never could get over it. I know a guy like that. Hates them so much and he lets them know. They ran him in for nothing in particular; just to show him who runs the streets.
a reply to: blackthorne

In your own comment you admit to knowing someone who was arrested for " nothing in particular just so.." a few pigs could show him who's boss essentially, and you don't know why he could or would be angry.

The sheer stupidity of that comment nearly blew the last of the hair off my head.

I'd insult you but I'm afraid there's nothing I can do to make you look any worse than what you've already done, thank you.

originally posted by: Parthin96
There are a huge number of cop-resisters on here. I'm thinking they're mostly people who got busted for dope, shoplifting, DUI. Some misdemeanor arrest and they never could get over it. I know a guy like that. Hates them so much and he lets them know. They ran him in for nothing in particular; just to show him who runs the streets.

I suspect most of these "cop-resisters" you speak of don't think the way they do because they were busted for dope, shoplifting, DUI, or some misdemeanor arrest they can't get over, but rather because they've witnessed or experienced police run them or someone else in for no particular reason; just to show them who runs the streets.

Do you not see how this:

They ran him in for nothing in particular; just to show him who runs the streets.

can create animosity towards police from the communities they work in? And wouldn't that animosity be justified?

I won't let anyone film me or record me while I'm working. I don't care whatever asshole wants to do it. I will not aid the manufacture of any evidence, regardless of what it's about. Once they turn it on, I'm done talking.

What if it's the police doing the recording? You wouldn't want to be one of those "cop-resisters" now would you? I hear they're mostly people who were busted for dope, shoplifting, DUI, or some misdemeanor arrest they can't get over. Definitely not a crowd you want to be lumped in with.

The thing that really struck me about this video was that the police officer was so nonchalant and casual with his gun. He looked like a gun-slinging bully from the old wild west.

I mean seriously, it was an eye opener for me to see somebody with such an enormous responsibility behave in such a casual, almost gangbanger like way regarding the gun. The man was swaggering for god's sake!

for the officer.

The worst part of this video, if you need to take your gun out, you should be keeping your eyes on the suspect. At multiple times the cop keeps his gun out but turns away, showing he had no reason to have the weapon out.

a reply to: Aazadan

The gun is presented to intimidate the cop's target/innocent victim

Wow, that hit a nerve.
a reply to: FraggleRock

Resisting lawful commands is something they can lock you up for, if they want. I'll be skipping down the sidewalk while you're begging for your last ciggie. They know who their friends are. It's mostly the same people who end up in jail.
a reply to: Bundy

Mostly what cops do is collect garbage. Guys like me pay them for it. I don't support illegal shootings.
a reply to: DAVID64

originally posted by: Parthin96
Resisting lawful commands is something they can lock you up for, if they want. I'll be skipping down the sidewalk while you're begging for your last ciggie. They know who their friends are. It's mostly the same people who end up in jail.
a reply to: Bundy

He gave no lawful commands. He bullied a man in his driveway. But you're just an ignorant twit attempting to provoke people, what was i thinking of course you dont know #.

a reply to: ugmold

** sorry Ugmold, that "citizen" was a paranoid fool.

all he needed to do (quite reasonably) was take his hand out of his pocket (could have a gun) and be polite....

how many dozen videos have i seen where the mouthy "citizen" provokes his own fate ?

** you elect the police to be your guardians, and give them fire-power against criminals.

so at least show a bit of respect to their vital role in society.

** imagine YOUR town inside 2 weeks, if all the police suddenly went on strike....

need i say what would happen ?

almost every town in the world has 40% potentially violent thieves and criminals amongst them,

of course some police are bad, but Not that one. the more i listened to the camera guy,

the more i would think he was mentally ill, and want him to take his hand out of his possible gun pocket.

** sounded like the "citizen" had bad experiences with police in the past, and whose fault was that ?

clearly paranoia and egotism "dont you touch me, dont you touch me" with increasing aggitation.

** you should be GLAD the cop was cruising round looking for possible troublemakers.

in my town you can never find a cop when you need one, and the only time they put their sirens on

is when they are rushing back to the station for tea-break, and to fill out their overtime pay claims .....

(we say that jokingly)

** cops are humans first, and "perfect" officers second. JUST DONT PROVOKE THEM, and be polite, it works ...

Didn't see any updates on this, or I missed them. It looks like paid leave, but they are doing an internal investigation and the city is hiring an outside investigator.

Can't imagine any criminal charges will be brought against the officer, but it looks possible that he might be out of a job.

www.google.com...

That officer should be fired. It's time to send a message to other officers that the department will not put up with this kind of behavior. The officer was looking to harass that person. Glad to see civil rights charges will be filed.

originally posted by: Parthin96
Wow, that hit a nerve.

Rub some dirt on it, you'll be fine.