Whats with this September 2015 - November 2015 time table that has become so popular?

I'm just wondering why those specific dates or time table has become so popular. I've been into ATS since 2002 when the website layout colors were red and gray and I got to tell ya folks EVERY single time a date or time table got super hyped it NEVER HAPPENED.

You got people talking about an asteroid hitting earth, to the obvious collapse, to the rapture coming thru, alien contact, Nibiru coming, alien invasion, etc.

Its all over the place but why this specific time table?

a reply to: aiolosmartine

Its all over the place but why this specific time table?

It's when doom always happens (usually, except when it doesn't.)
www.abovetopsecret.com...

A date only becomes popular because people keep asking why it is becoming so popular?

Easy to build up to, can't be debunked until the day after.

a reply to: Phage

A lot of people are coat-tailing off a man called Jonathan Kahn who has allegedly figured out that most, if not to him all, events that impact the economy and worldwide political structures are tied into a cycle that the Bible calls the Shemitah.

Jonathan ties these 'events' in with the Shemitah. A cycle that he states God uses to bring nations to humility through forgiveness of debt (or the elimination of) and renewal of the land (as it used to be the farmers would open their land to the peasants). Jonathan states that the reason this September will be so big is that it falls on the elul, or the day of resetting of the debt. Culminating in the, in his eyes, collapse of the economy.

As for my opinion on the subject, I think people just pick on September because it's the month after summer and so their perception of it is that of a miserable month.

Jonathan has released several books and often gives talks on the subject - though I find his evidence lacking any real meat as crisis happen all the time in different ways. Though some dates are shockingly in tune with the Shemitah, I'm not yet willing to add too much weight to his theory.

That's one theory anyway. Please discuss.

Here's a linky poo....

It's that vitamin d. Start lacking getting antsy. I got some vitamin d for half of you out there. Other half get out my way!

I dunno honestly people get SAD and start projecting. In a culture that believes perception is reality, the abstract affects the concrete. Self fulfilling nonsense.

Get that vitamin D and chill out.

A cycle that he states God uses to bring nations to humility through forgiveness of debt

a reply to: Joneselius
My GOD does no such thing. PURE LOVE can only LOVE.

a reply to: aiolosmartine

some possible answers 'why' are in this thread:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Setting aside the revelationist lingo, watching the movements of important figures in the world is a key sign of knowing whats going down. I think the fact that Putin of all people is going to be in the US on Septmeber is pretty interesting.

originally posted by: aiolosmartine
I'm just wondering why those specific dates or time table has become so popular. I've been into ATS since 2002 when the website layout colors were red and gray and I got to tell ya folks EVERY single time a date or time table got super hyped it NEVER HAPPENED.

You got people talking about an asteroid hitting earth, to the obvious collapse, to the rapture coming thru, alien contact, Nibiru coming, alien invasion, etc.

Its all over the place but why this specific time table?

Wikipedia is a great start - googling is easy - don't they teach any research skills in schools any more

In American political jargon, an October surprise is a news event deliberately created to influence the outcome of an election, particularly one for the U.S. presidency.

The reference to the month of October is because the date for national elections (as well as many state and local elections) occurs between November 2 and 8, and therefore events that take place in late October have greater potential to influence the decisions of prospective voters.


The term came into use shortly after the 1972 presidential election between Republican incumbent Richard Nixon and Democrat George McGovern, when the United States was in the fourth year of negotiations to end the very long and domestically divisive Vietnam War.

On October 26, 1972, twelve days before the election on November 7, the United States' chief negotiator, the presidential National Security Advisor Henry Kissinger, appeared at a press conference held at the White House and announced, "We believe that peace is at hand."[1] Nixon, despite having vowed to end the unpopular war during his presidential election campaign four years earlier, had failed to cease hostilities but significantly reduced American involvement, especially ground forces. Nixon was nevertheless already widely considered to be assured of an easy reelection victory against McGovern, but Kissinger's "peace is at hand" declaration may have increased Nixon's already high standing with the electorate. In the event, Nixon outpolled McGovern in every state except Massachusetts and achieved a 20-point lead in the nationwide popular vote. Remaining U.S. ground forces were withdrawn in 1973, but U.S. military involvement in Vietnam continued until 1975.

Since that election, the term "October surprise" has been used preemptively during campaign season by partisans of one side to discredit late-campaign news by the other side.

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a reply to: aiolosmartine

If you really want to get into the psychology of this period, you might want to consider how it relates to our history as a species.

This is the time where the seasons change from one of plenty (Summer) into a period of struggle (Winter).

Throughout Human history this was a time of fear, uncertainty, entering a period when the weather became dangerous, food was scarce and disease more likely to strike. For hundreds of thousands of years this was all unknown of course, so Gods were blamed and sacrifices offered.

Have we really moved all that far away from that?
Just look at discussions about this here, people are already talking about religion, that's not a coincidence.
If you look hard enough and ask a lot of people what they would do to prevent their feared scenario from happening, I'll bet you could even find a reference to "sacrifice" in there too - not them of course, but something else to "appease" some entity they imagine might do something.

Instead of fearing the weather and disease controlled by a vengeful God unhappy with us (which we still do to some extent) entering this period, people need to manufacture dangers to satisfy that ancient fear.

a reply to: Phage

If you don't see writing on the wall when it comes to debt or climate

Then you are not looking at the wall that's for sure

Turn around, there is a wall behind you, look at it

Johnathan Kahn and His video and book "The Harbinger" is unreal and incredeible how it lines up with the Shemitah years and the elul

a reply to: aiolosmartine

That's what I want to know as well. I started a similar topic to this of which Phage has provided the link.

It seems others feel the same way.

My personal theory is TPTB are using these doomsday scares to condition the public into a state of apathy. You will notice there has been a trend of supposed doomsdays that never happened. Eventually, people will hear wolf too many times and will stop paying attention. Now just why anyone would want to do this, I have no idea. I just don't think this kind of thing gets traction unless someone pretty high up lets it happen. As we know here on ATS, there are tons of conspiracy theories out there. Most people have heard a few of them but most people laugh at them. They don't generally get any real traction where everyone is talking about them as if they are real. Even here there is some healthy skepticism.

Anyway, my guess is we'll all be still sitting here this time next year talking about it.