Who wants to invoke a racial war in the US?

There has been a lot of racial upheaval brought to the forefront lately. It has been a media feeding frenzy. The latest case really has me wondering who is trying to start this racial war in the US. I'll start with Bland, the woman who was arrested for not signalling!?! Who gets arrested for that? 3/4 of NY state drivers would be arrested for not signalling. Its ridiculous. This woman apparently committed suicide in a Texas jail cell. This whole story sounds fishy to me. No one checked on her? No one heard her? Unfortunately, I think she was offed to create more racial tension and tension between authority figures and the common people. This is the most recent of the cases I'll bring up.

The next one is the shooting in the Charleston Church. A horrible case. The media had such a frenzy with the Confederate flag, that at one point I actually forgot why the Confederate flag was an issue. I forgot about the people that lost there lives. I think whoever is feeding the media wanted exactly that to happen. For people to forget about people and to get them worked up to a riot.

The next case was Freddie Gray's death in Baltimore and the riots that took place. Again, we forgot about the person who lost his life and just remember that there were riots, racial riots.

Working backwards still, there was Furgeson in 2014. Do you remember the names of the people involved? I didn't I had to look them up. I remembered the riots though. I remembered hearing that people were getting paid to riot!!! Obviously someone wanted people to riot. By the way, the name of the young man killed was Michael Brown.

I think this goes back to 2012, with Trayvan Martin. I think that someone, some organization, saw the anger that such a case would invoke. I think that someone is inciting the racial riots to rip apart the fabric of America. If someone can turn the people against each other and against authority, then it would be easy for them to move in and take over. But who? China? Russia? Isis? Who would see this as an opportunity to move in and take over?

a reply to: mistressofspice

But who? China? Russia? Isis

You need to look nearer to home.

Start with your Police Force, and their over zealous approach towards citizens.

a reply to: alldaylong

Ok, lets run with this theory. Does someone want to make the US a military state? If so, who would that be?

a reply to: mistressofspice

Why do you think fighting for equal rights under the law is aggressive or instigating a war?

That's neo-Jim Crow thinking. It need to be abandoned.

originally posted by: mistressofspice
a reply to: alldaylong

Ok, lets run with this theory. Does someone want to make the US a military state? If so, who would that be?

People who make money out of body armour, riot shields and weapons maybe?

originally posted by: mistressofspice
a reply to: alldaylong

Ok, lets run with this theory. Does someone want to make the US a military state? If so, who would that be?

Military States are run by Dictators.

Not being a U.S. Citizen myself, you will probably know better than i: who you could class as a " Dictator " in your country. If anyone that is.

a reply to: mistressofspice

S&F! Also I never could point at a specific name or organization as such, but "some entity" is trying hard. It seems that after WW2 many have realized that a so called "In your Face" dictatorship ala NAZI or as we see it in North Korea is a bit too obvious in the so called democracies. That "something" is going on I noticed already with the Charles Manson/Sharon Tate murders back then. Later on in Europe with the various "Operation Gladio" events and then personally discovering that the biggest drug dealers in Europe were not the Hippies but the Neo-Nazies and other right wing nuts.

Personally I get the feeling that just when one thinks that the issues have been resolved another "nut" comes in from the cold and starts some new problem. It seems that it is meant to just upset the harmony to such a degree that we are "asking" for more "control and supervision".

The problem is that I cant even think of any specific group or organization to point the finger at. However I also can't say that all these events just happen to be "random nuts gone loose". It is just "too convenient" - also randomly appearing - as to be called "coincident".

a reply to: InverseLookingGlass

I am all for equal rights. Rioting isn't "under the law". Getting paid to riot is aggressive. What do you thing getting paid to riot is instigating? People getting along? People trying to find a solution to a problem?

Seems like it's the desperate attempts of far-right racist extremists to bring back the 'good ol days' at every opportunity.

They'd love a race war

Follow the money. It's all well and good to cry "Racial Equality!" but the very ones you see shouting the loudest are the ones making the most profit. The like of Jackson and Sharpton are not there to fight for the people, they are fighting to keep themselves in the news and join whatever cause will get them the most publicity. Neither Sharpton or Jackson, the 2 biggest names when it comes to blaming whites, won't go near Chicago and it's black on black crime. They can't point a finger and get people rioting, protesting and above all, stir the racial pot.

a reply to: mistressofspice

It seems to me the only people wanting to start a war are the same right-wing crazies constantly ranting about the need for a second American Revolution, primarily because they have a paranoid belief about the government or just don't like the decisions the democratically elected government is making.

Now, we can rant for days about corporate influence in government, the massive military spending, the corruption of wall street and everything else everyone thinks/knows/fears, but the fact remains that there is a group of people in your country who all seem to have the same ideological ambitions.

The only people who benefit from a "race war" are the right-wing, the rednecks, the racists. They are the extremist threat your government has been talking about, the ones who are so ridiculously suspicious of everything their government does, defiant to the point of calling for violence to get their way.

No one needs to "manufacture" this, it's been there all along. No one forces the racist cop to beat up the black woman at the side of the road, no one forces the KKK to arrive at a rally to preach their special brand of bullsh*t, no one forces anyone to do anything.

These are extreme people making choices for themselves, the only thing that has changed is that now it's public, it's being shared, it's being discussed in the media when before it would have been hushed up and only a few locals would have know anything was happening.

The problem right now is that the federal government has been so slow to act on this, and so ineffectual in dealing with this problem, that the country is only one more police brutality video away from going batsh*t crazy.

Imagine the LA riots being national. Imagine those pictures from 1992 happening again, but this time you have millions of enraged people out on the streets saying that enough is enough. Now imagine that you have thousands of right-wing rednecks in the southern states reacting to that anger and protest, with their own special brand of racism. Now imagine that new going national...

It doesn't need to be orchestrated by anyone.

Personally, I believe your government is to blame here. The US has had decades to fix this problem, to invest in education, to improve the standard of living for all, to combat racial profiling, to hold police officers to account, to properly investigate accusations of brutality, to do all kinds of things that over the course of those decades would have moved your country on in massive ways to be a more cohesive nation.

Instead, they cut funding to the poorest schools, which were inevitably predominantly black (because they've always been there, through no fault of their own), they ignored police brutality, they allowed "ghettos" to continue to decline, they failed to hold police officers accountable, they did next to nothing to bring in any kind of national policing standards, they did nothing to combat far-right extremism, they actively encouraged political division...

If anyone is to blame for the way your country is right now, you can thank every president and both political parties for their utterly dismal failures over the last 50 years.

And yes, the one with the least blood on his hands is Obama, he's the only one actually trying to push through changes. You could argue that this is only because of the current problems, and perhaps he wouldn't be doing that if there hadn't been such a massive change in the public discussion as a result of these changes, but every other president has faced similar and done absolutely nothing at all to rectify the problem.

The country had a lot of work to do after Martin Luther King, Jr. and they pissed that time away expecting things to fix themselves. You're now having to deal with the fallout of decades of completely failed internal policies on race and politics.

originally posted by: InverseLookingGlass
a reply to: mistressofspice

Why do you think fighting for equal rights under the law is aggressive or instigating a war?

That's neo-Jim Crow thinking. It need to be abandoned.

But here's the problem...these riots, demonstrations, talking point, and everything else is not a 'fight for equal rights,' as you're calling it, but often times just an outlet for anger and rage. There is a claim that all that they are seeking is justice, but no one waits for or listens to the evidence if it contradicts that story that made them angry in the first place. I think the point is that fighting for justice is a noble thing, and I'm on the side of that, but rioting and creating divisive racial tension before anything is truly known about each particular instance certainly seems like someone (*cough* NAN *cough*) is stoking these coals of hatred on purpose.

You claim that this assertion is "neo-Jim Crowing thinking," but what I would argue is that you're ignoring the reality that, at the heart of this, there is next-to-nothing to do with "equal rights," and more to do with racial temper tantrums.

The stats don't lie: More white people are killed by cops by nearly a 2:1 ratio, yet you walk into one of these "equal rights" protests or riots holding a sign that says "All Lives Matter," you're not going to be welcomed with open arms. Equality would dictate otherwise--racially charged motives give you what is currently happening.

Baring in mind the rioters were dwarfed by the protestors...


Have you ever been angry...
So angry you smashed something or knocked something over in a passive aggressive moment of venting such anger...
Have you ever been part of a large collective of people enraged by the very thing that made you smash something...
Destroying things in a manner which you know deep down you wouldn't do if you wasn't incensed...

So add that angry collective together in one place and what appears to be an out of control mob hell bent on turning a city to dust...
Is really just a group of passive aggressive people (mostly teens, the most PA of all) who've had enough but indulge in an apparent disregard for that which they'd not glance at twice on a normal day...


No more justified than intentionally laying to waste, but much more psychologically understandable & thus preventable...




As for agent provocateurs amidst these moments, being paid to further enrage and even instigating such passive aggressive assaults on items and things and stuff, rather than boiling over into a stomach ulcer or a god damned aneurysm...
I cannot speak for them, and clearly they are the focus of this sort of race war/civil war baiting, not the passive aggressive who I've no doubt regret their idiocy for the most part...



Who?
There are a great many who would profit from this sort of thing, monetarily, spiritually, mentally, out of greed, selfishness...
An overal avarice that possesses those above us who see the end is nigh...

So promote anything that will strengthen their army (militarised police)...
Promote anything that distracts us from the tipping point of the cliff...
Where so many of us have congregated without thinking about those who got there first being edged closer to the precipice...


Ring a ring of roses...
A pocket full of posies...
A tissue, a tissue...
We all...
Fall...
Down!!!

I disagree MB, I think there are people of all races that would do this...

I also think it's closer to a class war than a race war...

Your mileage may vary.

Media ratings?
When the penny dropped that "emotive news" was more profitable than "real news", shock journalism became the norm.


When you actually look at the percentage of people who (regardless of ethnicity, wealth or belief system ) peacefully interact and co-exist on a daily basis in America; it really is a success story that testifies to the positive facets of humanity.

One day the media might get the war in the streets they require for ratings but with any luck.... it will be focused on them.

a reply to: mistressofspice the only people paid to riot are cops and FBI.

originally posted by: InverseLookingGlass
a reply to: mistressofspice

Why do you think fighting for equal rights under the law is aggressive or instigating a war?

That's neo-Jim Crow thinking. It need to be abandoned.

yes lets abandon any thinking that doesnt fall in line with your own.........

Looks like youre part of the problem........

We should never EVER put laws, or otherwise shutdown ideas or questions........

Thats Nazi Germany thinking

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: mistressofspice the only people paid to riot are cops and FBI.

Actually thats not accurate.........

At least some of the protesters who looted, rioted, burned buildings and overturned police cars in Ferguson, Missouri, last year were promised payment of up to $5,000 per month to join the protests.

However, when the Missourians Organizing for Reform and Empowerment (MORE), the successor group to the now-bankrupt St. Louis branch of ACORN (Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now), stiffed the protesters, they launched a sit-in protest at the headquarters of MORE and created a Twitter page to demand their money, the Washington Times reports.

Source

another source

Hired protesters with the Black Lives Matter movement have started a #CutTheCheck hashtag and held a sit-in at the offices for the successor group to the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) in Missouri after the group allegedly stopped paying them.

People were bused in, and Soros actually had a hand in many groups coming out, and yes people were paid......

you can look it up its really easy to find

Thousands of years of this game and still there is people that can't figure it out.

Here is some hints. Find out who the first notable arrest was in the ferguson riots. Next find out who was funding all the rioters and protestors. Lastly, figure out who runs the media that is pimping this race crap 24/7.

These people have brought down every empire since the dawn of time with the exact same methods. I always could see them for what they are, but it took me years before I could openly say it.