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WTC-7 Mysteries FINALLY Solved.

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posted on Oct, 4 2015 @ 07:07 PM
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Go back and review a few of my responses to "AE 911 Truth." If I have to go back and post them again for you, then I will make it an issue.



What, all the substituted disinformation, hoaxed and bogus videos and photos, that you spammed in this thread? That is your science?

Where is your science?

Where is your science I want you to present some real technical papers debunking A&E. I am not interested in your "opinions" that you call science.



posted on Oct, 4 2015 @ 07:12 PM
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Secondly, I have seen molten aluminum on many occasions during aircraft accidents over the eyars to know what I am talking about.

I was one of a number of witnesses to this incident when the aircraft first blew up one afternoon.


Your "opinion"

Where you a witness in the WTC that day? Were you standing in that gaping hole where the plane crashed?

Did you run your own tests while the WTC were burning in the impact hole ? No you didn't. The fact is, your "opinion" is not a fact to what happened at the WTC.



posted on Oct, 4 2015 @ 07:13 PM
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From you link.



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Figure 3. A thermite reaction generates yellow-white hot molten iron at well over 2500°C/4000°F and white smoke. This type of material can melt and cut steel beams.


If you take a closer look at your video reference, you do not see a single steel column being cut by anything.

Now tell us, what color does aluminum depict at a temperature of 980 degrees C.?

Aluminum Temperture Color Chart

Now, what color do you see in these photos of molten aluminum?

Photo 1: Molten Aluminum

Photo 2: Molten Aluminum

Photo 3: Molten Aluminum


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posted on Oct, 4 2015 @ 07:15 PM
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That won't fly and as proof, you have failed the challenge to prove me wrong.



posted on Oct, 4 2015 @ 07:16 PM
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Did you run your own tests while the WTC were burning in the impact hole ? No you didn't. The fact is, your "opinion" is not a fact to what happened at the WTC


All it takes is knowledge and common sense.



posted on Oct, 4 2015 @ 07:17 PM
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Not speculation by any means. The proof is that much of the aluminum wreckage o United 175 came to rest in that location where fires are also seen inside, which generate temperatures high enough to melt aluminum.



More opinions, did you read what I said, it is speculation that is all, I even said it could be true, nontheless it is not fact. it will never be fact... unless you can provide a photo of the plane bunched up in that corner of the tower, which you cannot, therefore speculation not fact..



posted on Oct, 4 2015 @ 07:21 PM
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That won't fly and as proof, you have failed the challenge to prove me wrong.


You have been proven wrong so many times now that I have lost count.

Where is your science to debunk A&E?

Asking silly questions to spin science to what color aluminum is when t reaches 980 degrees C and then posting silly photos from G-d knows where does not disprove A&E.

Your "opinions" are not fact nor science.

Still waiting for your science to debunk A&E?



posted on Oct, 4 2015 @ 07:27 PM
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More opinions, did you read what I said, it is speculation that is all, I even said it could be true, nontheless it is not fact. it will never be fact... unless you can provide a photo of the plane bunched up in that corner of the tower, which you cannot, therefore speculation not fact


We can go here.



Aluminum and the World Trade Disaster Report

This relatively low temperature indicates that the fires within the Twin Towers were quite capable of melting at least some of the Boeing 767 aluminum airframe structures remaining in the WTC before its collapse.

www.911myths.com...


United 175 WTC Graphics

Photo: Silvery Aluminum Droplets Lower Portion of Photo




posted on Oct, 4 2015 @ 07:31 PM
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originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: wildb



More opinions, did you read what I said, it is speculation that is all, I even said it could be true, nontheless it is not fact. it will never be fact... unless you can provide a photo of the plane bunched up in that corner of the tower, which you cannot, therefore speculation not fact


We can go here.




Lets try this again..

More opinions, did you read what I said, it is speculation that is all, I even said it could be true, nontheless it is not fact. it will never be fact... unless you can provide a photo of the plane bunched up in that corner of the tower, which you cannot, therefore speculation not fact
Aluminum and the World Trade Disaster Report

This relatively low temperature indicates that the fires within the Twin Towers were quite capable of melting at least some of the Boeing 767 aluminum airframe structures remaining in the WTC before its collapse.

www.911myths.com...


United 175 WTC Graphics

Photo: Silvery Aluminum Droplets Lower Portion of Photo





More opinions, did you read what I said, it is speculation that is all, I even said it could be true, nontheless it is not fact. it will never be fact... unless you can provide a photo of the plane bunched up in that corner of the tower, which you cannot, therefore speculation not fact
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posted on Oct, 4 2015 @ 07:32 PM
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OMG!

You are still using 911myths.com website.

That website was discredited by experts and they claim it is full of disinformation to only support the OS of 911.

There is not a grain of truth in that website, yet you call out everyone of us as posting disinformation, and here you are posting disinformation.



posted on Oct, 4 2015 @ 07:34 PM
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Your deception routine won't work. Try it somewhere else now that you have proven that you cannot produce evidence of demo detonations.



posted on Oct, 4 2015 @ 07:34 PM
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originally posted by: Informer1958
a reply to: skyeagle409

OMG!

You are still using 911myths.com website.

That website was discredited by experts and they claim it is full of disinformation to only support the OS of 911.

There is not a grain of truth in that website, yet you call out everyone of us as posting disinformation, and here you are posting disinformation.



Yeah and he is really good at it.....NOT



posted on Oct, 4 2015 @ 07:35 PM
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That won't work either.



posted on Oct, 4 2015 @ 07:36 PM
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Your deception routine won't work. Try it somewhere else now that you have proven that you cannot produce evidence of demo detonations.


Still waiting for the science to debunk A&E?

You are the one that has proven yourself as posting disinformation by using a disinformation website.



posted on Oct, 4 2015 @ 07:37 PM
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Yes he is.



posted on Oct, 4 2015 @ 07:38 PM
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Now, the challenge is for you to prove to us all that the molten metal is anything but aluminum.



posted on Oct, 4 2015 @ 07:40 PM
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Now, the challenge is for you to prove to us all that the molten metal is anything but aluminum.


No the challenge is on you since you support it.

Where is your science to prove it????



posted on Oct, 4 2015 @ 07:42 PM
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originally posted by: skyeagle409
a reply to: wildb

Now, the challenge is for you to prove to us all that the molten metal is anything but aluminum.


No it's not sorry, and who is us, you mean you..get a life please, I cannot do that and neither can you....



posted on Oct, 4 2015 @ 07:51 PM
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Now tell us, what color does aluminum depict at a temperature of 980 degrees C.?


Where did you get the idea that the aluminum was burning 980 degrees? Was it not noted to be burning at 1200°C/2200°F

Do you just make up this stuff as you go?


Dr. Jones' paper reveals that the initial bright yellow-white glow of the expelled liquid was consistent with a glowing stream of molten iron from "a nearby thermite reaction zone," and the expected white smoke (aluminum oxide off-gassing) supports that conclusion. NIST must rely on its claim of molten aluminum in order to validate its official fire-based explanation, because office fires cannot generate the extreme temperature required to melt steel or iron. The fundamental flaw of the aluminum hypothesis, though, is that the implied temperature of the white glow remains above 1200°C/2200°F, regardless of the metal involved. An independent researcher suggested that the molten substance could be lead from storage batteries, but this explanation fails — as do all hypotheses based on alternative metals — because the temperature required for the yellow-white glow of the metal is beyond the capability of the building fire.


www1.ae911truth.org... teel-and-iron-or-aluminum-andor-lead.html

Still waiting for your science that debunks A&E?
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posted on Oct, 4 2015 @ 07:56 PM
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Still waiting for the science to debunk A&E?


All you had to do was to go back and read what I have already posted, so here it is again.



"AE 911 Truth" says that lateral ejections of mult-ton steel was evidence of explosives

"Lateral ejection of multi-ton steel framing members distances of 600 feet at more than 60 mph,


"AE 911 Truith" said that explosives did it, but let's take a look here. Seems that AE 911 Truth is not playing with a full deck considering that the steel columns of WTC1 are standing within the huge bomb crater.

Photo: WTC1 Steel Columns Stadning Within Huge Bomb Crater

"AE 911 Truth Debunked. That's strike one!



"AE 911 Truth" says

Isolated explosive ejections 20 to 60 stories below the “crush zone,” evidence of bombs.


Now, let's go here.



Squibs

During the pancake, the floors acted like a plunger in a Syringe. The towers skin and windows became the tube of the Syringe. The increased pressure blew the windows out as each massive acre of floor compressed air between them. It's said that the towers were about 95% air. The air pushed though the core any way it could and the pressure built up. It forced its way out on lower floors wherever it could.

According to the survivors of at least one tower, a hurricane wind blows through the staircase which is located in the core.

* Matt Komorowski: “The first thing I really felt was the incredible rush of air at my back. And maybe I felt it before everybody else, because I was the last guy.

* ”Stone Phillips: “Like a gust of wind, behind you.”

Photo: Compressed Air Squibs


"AE 911 Truth" debunked. strike two!!



"AE 911 Truth" Evidence of Molten Steel

i662.photobucket.com...


It is evident that photo depicts anneled steel, not steel in a molten state. Now, let's take a look here.

Photo: Solidified Molten Steel

AE 911 debunked again, and that's strike three!!!

Just goes to show that you haven't been paying attention to what I have been posting.
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