WTC-7 Mysteries FINALLY Solved.

a reply to: Rocker2013

You can stand down with your 'no god' signs.
911 has become a religion with the truther's.
Scientific facts mean nothing unless it's skewed in favor of the conspiracy believers.

You might do better arguing evolution to a southern Baptist church.
Assuming they don't tar and feather you.

a reply to: Rocker2013

Yeah, you're right dude! We're all paranoid.
And delusional don't forget that one.

originally posted by: Rocker2013
I'm still waiting to see the science proving and alternative theory...

Deliver it here when you're ready.

Oh wait, you can't, because it doesn't exist.

Asking for science that proves an inside job would make just as much sense as asking Tom Cruise and John Travolta for proof that Scientology is fraudulent cult...

Your questions are flawed big time.

When it comes to criminal conspiracies, since WHEN has there ever been proof?

WHY even ask for proof when it is so obvious that fraud has taken place?

And even if I DID hand you proof, what good would it do, would you even believe it?

I seriously doubt it.

People are going to believe what they want to believe until they see it with their own eyes.

You can't prove that the external world outside of your mind is real.

You can't absolutely "prove" anything.

There is a massive amount of evidence and proof but obviously criminals have enough sense to hide it and cover it up.

All of the lies surrounding this event make this painfully obvious to anyone that the original 'story' is just that, a story.

originally posted by: samkent
a reply to: Rocker2013

You can stand down with your 'no god' signs.
911 has become a religion with the truther's.
Scientific facts mean nothing unless it's skewed in favor of the conspiracy believers.

Scientific facts? Ow you mean like how physics mean nothing to you or any OSer?

Were just asking questions, OSers just cant answer them. So we keep questioning. Its that simple.

Heads up

Reading some of the posts here It seems some of you have forgotten, or are not aware of this

##ATTENTION ALL 9/11 POSTERS##

If you value your ATS accounts, I suggest you read it VERY carefully.

If you cannot behave and post in a civilised manner appropriate action will be taken.

As this is a reminder, it is the only warning that will be offered.

Hi guys

Could somebody explain to me this...

If WTC 7 was a controlled demolition, like all controlled demos we see clear blow outs and the building fall

But what I want to know is...

Why the roof caved in and the blow outs were windows blowing out "after" the roof collapse naturally due to pressure of what looks like the lift shaft collapsing

Surely in a controlled demo the windows blow out visible in certain areas and not so sporadically and sparse, and then instantly after the building drops or global collapses

We don't see that though, we see a collapse blowouts and then the building implodes on the right the the left follows, then the building drops virtually

We then see a clear fracture to the entire left side of building as it follows the right side with a vertical line of window blow outs, now what you would expect or see in any controlled demo using any method of cutter charge placements

This does not support a simultaneous cutter charge theory IMO

As for the inaudible seismic booms they could literally be anything, and considering how far apart they appear to be on the chart, it does not resemble the pattern any other know controlled demolition method which achieves similar results in the falling of the WTC7 or any other building to be honest

The building was publicly said to be unstable and imminently collapsing after being showered by steel beams and concrete from WTC 1 & 2 and raging fires, while I find the manner in which the collapse happened odd I also find the demo charge theory while looking at the footage odd

Simultaneous cutter type explosions would not drop/implode the roof first, period

Here's my theory

Perhaps charges was set up in secret, in the event of a natural collapse occurring charges were to be used to ensure that the building did not cause more damage and possibly the destruction of other surrounding buildings

Which might explain why there was a delay after the roof imploded blowing out windows, and then the building dropped to the right blowing out a vertical line of windows to the left and the the entire building dropped downwards changing or correcting its fall inns controlled manner

The Germanwings Flight 9525 disintegrated on impact, there was not much left of it either. Some pictures have a similar feel to them.

We have all seen crazy things in our life where we go WOW what are the odds of that happening, this happens more often than we care to admit, we do not scrutinize things that we accept as fact any way near the way we do when we do not believe something, so it seems implausible when we start looking into things that they could have so many questionable things surrounding them. It IS possible no matter how small the chances that WTC-7 fell, its also possible that the beams could simply not sustain all the unusual issues that happened to it that day, fuel, heat, planes, explosions from various equipment. Its possible that a plane disintegrated like Germanwings Flight 9525 and its possible that a plane did what it did at the pentagon, even if it lost control and by total luck still managed to hit the target. In the real world crazy weird stuff does happen and we must never rule that out!

HOWEVER....

In my mind there is only one thing to question with any certainty, Frame 23 of the Pentagon tapes. Its IMPOSSIBLE for the two tapes to be different, YET despite ONLY the officials having access to it, somehow it is different on frame 23. There are over 80 unreleased videos that could wipe this issue out of contention but for some reason under national security they cannot be released. Why has it been changed and who changed it? I have the originals released by the Gov I am an experienced user of tools like photoshop and know many others that are experts (Hollywood visual effects artists), all confirmed frame 23 has been changed for sure.

And then and only then if there is proof that this smoking gun, undisputed by chance as its a video only in the hands of the officials, then you can question EVERYTHING that happened that day. Fighting a battle where there are unknown odds of random things going on is simply hearsay.

Investigate "frame 23"

18.30 minute mark of the video in this link
www.youtube.com...

a reply to: Rocker2013

I think the latter is more plausible.

originally posted by: LightUpTheDark
Hi guys

Could somebody explain to me this...

You are a 911 hybrid and the key to the whole fiasco!

originally posted by: Rocker2013
a reply to: LaBTop

LaBTop, if you're going to do nothing more than constantly spam the thread with all the nonsense conspiracy videos from YouTube, could you do us a favor and stop embedding them all and just provide links?

Most of us have seen (and debunked) everything you have presented already, all you are doing is attempting to shut down any discussion through SHOUTING your conspiracy at us.

You're not responding to any of the opinions of anyone pointing out the inaccuracies or inconsistencies in your theories, you're just spamming the thread.

What about you do us a favor and stop spamming this thread with flying cats and bull# claims of 'science' while not in the least bit 'debunking' anything.

It is SCIENTIFICALLY IMPOSSIBLE for fires to cause that FREEFALL demolition from the top to the bottom. Any respectable civil engineer who is not involved with the mainstream media should tell you this is the case.

The top doesn't fall onto the base and causes it to somehow collapse. It all falls AT ONCE in a freefall.

Open your eyes man TO REAL SCIENCE, and when you realize the truth, you will feel silly for all these ridiculous posts.

9/11 was an inside job from start to finish. Many in the government and media (including Hollywood) knew about it and were planning years in advance, which is why insurance against terrorist attacks spiked right before the event. The buildings were demolished and the official story is outright ludicrous. More than ludicrous, it is scientifically implausible.

Why post all this here and not head off to some up and coming district attorney? Go on. I dare you.

originally posted by: Msabbas92

originally posted by: Rocker2013
a reply to: LaBTop

LaBTop, if you're going to do nothing more than constantly spam the thread with all the nonsense conspiracy videos from YouTube, could you do us a favor and stop embedding them all and just provide links?

Most of us have seen (and debunked) everything you have presented already, all you are doing is attempting to shut down any discussion through SHOUTING your conspiracy at us.

You're not responding to any of the opinions of anyone pointing out the inaccuracies or inconsistencies in your theories, you're just spamming the thread.

What about you do us a favor and stop spamming this thread with flying cats and bull# claims of 'science' while not in the least bit 'debunking' anything.

It is SCIENTIFICALLY IMPOSSIBLE for fires to cause that FREEFALL demolition from the top to the bottom. Any respectable civil engineer who is not involved with the mainstream media should tell you this is the case.

The top doesn't fall onto the base and causes it to somehow collapse. It all falls AT ONCE in a freefall.

Open your eyes man TO REAL SCIENCE, and when you realize the truth, you will feel silly for all these ridiculous posts.

9/11 was an inside job from start to finish. Many in the government and media (including Hollywood) knew about it and were planning years in advance, which is why insurance against terrorist attacks spiked right before the event. The buildings were demolished and the official story is outright ludicrous. More than ludicrous, it is scientifically implausible.

And yet 14 years later every single person involved everywhere (even Hollywood) has kept quiet. Bravo to this massive team of good secret keepers.

originally posted by: scottyirnbru

originally posted by: Msabbas92

originally posted by: Rocker2013
a reply to: LaBTop

LaBTop, if you're going to do nothing more than constantly spam the thread with all the nonsense conspiracy videos from YouTube, could you do us a favor and stop embedding them all and just provide links?

Most of us have seen (and debunked) everything you have presented already, all you are doing is attempting to shut down any discussion through SHOUTING your conspiracy at us.

You're not responding to any of the opinions of anyone pointing out the inaccuracies or inconsistencies in your theories, you're just spamming the thread.

What about you do us a favor and stop spamming this thread with flying cats and bull# claims of 'science' while not in the least bit 'debunking' anything.

It is SCIENTIFICALLY IMPOSSIBLE for fires to cause that FREEFALL demolition from the top to the bottom. Any respectable civil engineer who is not involved with the mainstream media should tell you this is the case.

The top doesn't fall onto the base and causes it to somehow collapse. It all falls AT ONCE in a freefall.

Open your eyes man TO REAL SCIENCE, and when you realize the truth, you will feel silly for all these ridiculous posts.

9/11 was an inside job from start to finish. Many in the government and media (including Hollywood) knew about it and were planning years in advance, which is why insurance against terrorist attacks spiked right before the event. The buildings were demolished and the official story is outright ludicrous. More than ludicrous, it is scientifically implausible.

And yet 14 years later every single person involved everywhere (even Hollywood) has kept quiet. Bravo to this massive team of good secret keepers.

Yeah, well 50 years later I'm still waiting for someone to speak up about JFK.

Wait they have as have many on 911. However, the crux is survivability. You try to out those kind of people not just you but your family can disappear. This isn't about an incident or even a horrific incident, it isn't even about the "war on terror" .

It was the catalyst, the event required to catapult global hegemony into the 21st century. .....good thing we haven't become irrelevant.

originally posted by: gazzerman

Investigate "frame 23"

Why AA11 is right there... right where it should be :






Massimo Mazzucco just lied to you about the position of the planes nose in the video and even put an arrow over the planes tail to hide it.

a reply to: CALGARIAN

There were no demolition explosions when WTC 7 collapsed, which is clearly evident in the videos. There were demolition teams in the area working on another project and yet, they have stated they heard no demolition explosions. Their seismic monitors failed to detect explosions as well.

There is no sound of demolition explosions as WTC 7 collapsed and no demolition hardware was ever found at ground zero. To sum it up, no demolition explosions were seen nor heard as WTC 7 collapsed.

a reply to: Msabbas92

It is SCIENTIFICALLY IMPOSSIBLE for fires to cause that FREEFALL demolition from the top to the bottom. Any respectable civil engineer who is not involved with the mainstream media should tell you this is the case.

WTC 7 did not collapse at free fall speed. The total collapse time on video was 17 seconds, which is nowhere near free fall speed.

a reply to: skyeagle409

NIST had to change their report because they out right lied. Architectures & Engineers for 911 Truth proved that WTC 7 fell two seconds faster than free fall and made NIST change their final Report. Read Architectures & Engineers for 911 Truth technical papers on their website.

That also proved scientifically that WTC 7 could not just collapse all by it's self without the help of a powerful energy force to cause the WTC to fall faster than normal free fall.

originally posted by: LightUpTheDark
Hi guys

Could somebody explain to me this...

If WTC 7 was a controlled demolition, like all controlled demos we see clear blow outs and the building fall

But what I want to know is...

Why the roof caved in and the blow outs were windows blowing out "after" the roof collapse naturally due to pressure of what looks like the lift shaft collapsing

Surely in a controlled demo the windows blow out visible in certain areas and not so sporadically and sparse, and then instantly after the building drops or global collapses

We don't see that though, we see a collapse blowouts and then the building implodes on the right the the left follows, then the building drops virtually

We then see a clear fracture to the entire left side of building as it follows the right side with a vertical line of window blow outs, now what you would expect or see in any controlled demo using any method of cutter charge placements

This does not support a simultaneous cutter charge theory IMO

As for the inaudible seismic booms they could literally be anything, and considering how far apart they appear to be on the chart, it does not resemble the pattern any other know controlled demolition method which achieves similar results in the falling of the WTC7 or any other building to be honest

The building was publicly said to be unstable and imminently collapsing after being showered by steel beams and concrete from WTC 1 & 2 and raging fires, while I find the manner in which the collapse happened odd I also find the demo charge theory while looking at the footage odd

Simultaneous cutter type explosions would not drop/implode the roof first, period

Here's my theory

Perhaps charges was set up in secret, in the event of a natural collapse occurring charges were to be used to ensure that the building did not cause more damage and possibly the destruction of other surrounding buildings

Which might explain why there was a delay after the roof imploded blowing out windows, and then the building dropped to the right blowing out a vertical line of windows to the left and the the entire building dropped downwards changing or correcting its fall inns controlled manner

Because the explosives blow out the center at the bottom not at the roof.

originally posted by: Informer1958
a reply to: skyeagle409

without the help of a powerful energy force to cause the WTC to fall faster than normal free fall.

It's called momentum transfer.

How can the eastern penthouse and the floors underneath it fall for 6 seconds inside the building without transferring momentum to the exterior of the building ?