Celestial Avengers

a reply to: Trachel

Well it's your story, that's why I asked your opinion. I'll guess those questions are rhetorical statements and assume that you answered my question though.

a reply to: Rosinitiate

Actually there was a period of history which was so
pleasant in many ways, that it was probably the
source of the 'garden of eden' tales. After that
portion of the Neolithic ended, the human
psyche was shattered, and we've had 'evil'
ever since.

Or at least that is one author's credible
theory.

This link is Interesting

www.messagetoeagle.com...

Does the number 6,000 sound interesting to you?

It does to me.

Kev

originally posted by: Rosinitiate
Yes but that's saying you can have light without darkness. In fairness the storyline is the same. Only that thread was "service to self" whereas you profess "service to others". You can't have one without the other right?

To disavow it would be to poo-poo your OP.

If I'm misunderstanding the premiss please clarify if you could.

You absolutely can have one without the other.

There are plenty of evolved worlds where service to others is the maxim.

And it's a fallacy promulgated by darkness that you can't have light without shadow.

Earth will eventually become one of those ascended worlds. That's the main target on a lot of angelic radars at the moment--divesting darkness and enlightening this world.

Wait and see--good times are ahead!

a reply to: Trachel

So they aren't allowed to prevent the problem but they are allowed to help solve it. And what sort of price tag do they attach to this deal?

originally posted by: Trachel

originally posted by: Rosinitiate
Yes but that's saying you can have light without darkness. In fairness the storyline is the same. Only that thread was "service to self" whereas you profess "service to others". You can't have one without the other right?

To disavow it would be to poo-poo your OP.

If I'm misunderstanding the premiss please clarify if you could.

You absolutely can have one without the other.

There are plenty of evolved worlds where service to others is the maxim.

And it's a fallacy promulgated by darkness that you can't have light without shadow.

Earth will eventually become one of those ascended worlds. That's the main target on a lot of angelic radars at the moment--divesting darkness and enlightening this world.

Wait and see--good times are ahead!

The "service to others" and "service to self" ideologies from the Law of One volumes are actually one coin, if you read far enough. Out of the eight dimensions, the sixth (or maybe 7th) is devoted to learning how one cannot be both compassionate and wise without understanding how intricately bound "self" and "other" are. If you really think about it, dark is just another word for "less light". Cold is just another word for "less hot". But if you insist on debating the Ra Material, go back and do your research please.

originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: Trachel

So they aren't allowed to prevent the problem but they are allowed to help solve it. And what sort of price tag do they attach to this deal?

Free will is a sticky wicket.

Celestial avengers typically only intervene once a world has gone ridiculously far out of balance.

And are you serious about price tags? Angels don't intervene for profit.

a reply to: Trachel

I love reading your stuff!

originally posted by: Trachel

originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: Trachel

So they aren't allowed to prevent the problem but they are allowed to help solve it. And what sort of price tag do they attach to this deal?

Free will is a sticky wicket.

Celestial avengers typically only intervene once a world has gone ridiculously far out of balance.

And are you serious about price tags? Angels don't intervene for profit.

Talk about unoriginal. Do they resemble Care Bears and sing all the latest hits from tinker bell wonderland?

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: Trachel

originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: Trachel

So they aren't allowed to prevent the problem but they are allowed to help solve it. And what sort of price tag do they attach to this deal?

Free will is a sticky wicket.

Celestial avengers typically only intervene once a world has gone ridiculously far out of balance.

And are you serious about price tags? Angels don't intervene for profit.

Talk about unoriginal. Do they resemble Care Bears and sing all the latest hits from tinker bell wonderland?

Only if it makes you happy!

a reply to: emsed1

Thanks, that means the world to me!

originally posted by: Trachel

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: Trachel

originally posted by: TzarChasm
a reply to: Trachel

So they aren't allowed to prevent the problem but they are allowed to help solve it. And what sort of price tag do they attach to this deal?

Free will is a sticky wicket.

Celestial avengers typically only intervene once a world has gone ridiculously far out of balance.

And are you serious about price tags? Angels don't intervene for profit.

Talk about unoriginal. Do they resemble Care Bears and sing all the latest hits from tinker bell wonderland?

Only if it makes you happy!

This is why it sounds ridiculous. Nothing "out there" is concerned with making us happy. No more than we are inclined to avoid treading on ants as we rush off to work.

originally posted by: TzarChasm

This is why it sounds ridiculous. Nothing "out there" is concerned with making us happy. No more than we are inclined to avoid treading on ants as we rush off to work.

On the contrary--tons of things in the universe (multiverse, whateververse) are concerned with making you happy. I'm genuinely sorry you haven't seen more evidence of that within your own life.

And I do intentionally avoid treading on ants as I rush off to work.

I'd rather be late starting my day then end the life of another.

originally posted by: Trachel

Ascending towards spiritual heights they refined themselves towards perfection. Evolving unto near-perfect beings they earned the trust and respect of the cosmos.

Define perfect.

And when did us mere mortals become imperfect?

originally posted by: Realtruth

originally posted by: Trachel

Ascending towards spiritual heights they refined themselves towards perfection. Evolving unto near-perfect beings they earned the trust and respect of the cosmos.

Define perfect.

And when did us mere mortals become imperfect?

Perfectly benevolent, perfectly compassionate, perfectly empathic, perfectly good.

It should be obvious we mere mortal are imperfect. For if we attained similar states of perfection, we'd be living within their celestial spheres.

originally posted by: Trachel

originally posted by: TzarChasm

This is why it sounds ridiculous. Nothing "out there" is concerned with making us happy. No more than we are inclined to avoid treading on ants as we rush off to work.

On the contrary--tons of things in the universe (multiverse, whateververse) are concerned with making you happy. I'm genuinely sorry you haven't seen more evidence of that within your own life.

And I do intentionally avoid treading on ants as I rush off to work.

I'd rather be late starting my day then end the life of another.

It's just us, as far as we know. So...take your meds, okay?

a reply to: Trachel

Celestial avengers typically only intervene once a world has gone ridiculously far out of balance.

So wouldn't they intervene if this happens as you suggested is possible

You absolutely can have one without the other.

There are plenty of evolved worlds where service to others is the maxim.

And it's a fallacy promulgated by darkness that you can't have light without shadow.

Earth will eventually become one of those ascended worlds. That's the main target on a lot of angelic radars at the moment--divesting darkness and enlightening this world.

Wait and see--good times are ahead!

That is out of balance,

for if this is to happen then the re-balancing would be quite bad to balance out the 'good times ahead'.

it's a fallacy promulgated by darkness that you can't have light without shadow.

Darkness doesn't promotes such thing, in my opinion.

Darkness is the source from which everything stems,

Nothing is separate when in the darkness, its when the light shines on things is when its seen/perceived or understood as separate, good or bad, happy or sad.

I guess if you use the term darkness as that which societies have programmed thinking and interpretation of darkness as being the bad, evil, negative and an opposite of the light, good , love and positive side of things then yes I can agree in terms of duality that the darkness will try to deceive and make one blind where as the light will try and enlighten and give new sight,

However,

the source of everything is the nothing, the darkness, the void before all existence. the oneness. These are the only words that can come close to labeling it, however the words come from language where everything has an opposite or equal reflection. Language is a part of the light, the light shines on the words so we as individual conscious beings can interact on a level all can participate in one way or another.

It was light that manifested and caused duality, that caused evil and negativity as much as it does love and positivity to be known and experienced.

Maybe after a few more trips into the ether and beyond you might understand this point of view I have, maybe you do get it and are only saying what you are to ease the fear in others of the unknown future where many sense negative times ahead.

Even though I pointed my opinion which might be conflicting or pointing out a contradiction of yours I have to say its a
nice message and inspirational to readers to search for their inner power and be the change they want to see and experience.

originally posted by: BelowLowAnnouncement
a reply to: Trachel

Well it's your story, that's why I asked your opinion. I'll guess those questions are rhetorical statements and assume that you answered my question though.

Yeah, sorry for the lack of clarity.

I did mean those questions for answers... I believe angels are working on behest of God, and that they also exist at the highest levels of dimensional realms.

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: Trachel

originally posted by: TzarChasm

This is why it sounds ridiculous. Nothing "out there" is concerned with making us happy. No more than we are inclined to avoid treading on ants as we rush off to work.

On the contrary--tons of things in the universe (multiverse, whateververse) are concerned with making you happy. I'm genuinely sorry you haven't seen more evidence of that within your own life.

And I do intentionally avoid treading on ants as I rush off to work.

I'd rather be late starting my day then end the life of another.

It's just us, as far as we know. So...take your meds, okay?

Only if you promise to smile!

You're the light, too. One day you'll realize it!

The angels are just other, higher aspects of yourself.

Your dream was just yourself, talking to yourself. There is only one, highest being/entity. It all comes from, goes back to the same source. There's no beginning, no end -- nothing can destroy it.

There's so much stress and worry -- when in reality we're all just shards of the same infinite thing. We're all just mirrors of ourselves, for ourselves.

We like to think we're separate, and that there are outside forces and entities doing this or that, saving this or helping that -- no, it's all one -- all the time.

Integrate yourself with your higher self, and you'll see this to be true. The nature of reality is nothing more than the everything that is everything experiencing itself in an infinite number of ways. Some of these ways are painful and full of horrible things, others are wonderful and full of love. All has to be experienced. There cannot be love with out hate, or bliss without suffering.

I wish people would get rid of the hierarchies they create in their minds to distance themselves away from the true nature of reality. I guess it;'s easier to believe in external, outside forces than realize that it all exists within them, and that their reality starts and is projected from their own mind.

a reply to: MystikMushroom

I respect this viewpoint, but don't personally subscribe to it.

I believe God created other spirits/souls from a desire to implement a system that would produce other perfected spirits.

I believe He imbued each of us with sovereignty and the potential spark of divinity.

I know there can be love without hate, because that's how things currently are on many other words--and that's how things will eventually be in this world after the work is done.