Draw a line between 2 planet positions every few days. Watch what happens - Mind = Blown

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: theyknowwhoyouare

So the "pull" of surrounding protons does not influence the speed and spin of an electron?

Not that I know of.

What about the speed and spin of the electron when it became entangled with the proton to begin with?

Can you provide evidence of proton/electron entanglement?

They have become entangled with one another via electromagnetic attraction.

a reply to: theyknowwhoyouare

They have become entangled with one another via electromagnetic attraction.

You do not seem to understand the terminology. It is weird stuff but it has nothing to do with "electromagnetic attraction." It means that two entangled particles (protons cannot be entangled with electrons because they are very different) will exhibit the same quantum properties no matter how each is influenced. Not binary.

a reply to: theyknowwhoyouare

FACTS or theoretical perspectives?

We assume to think that because we can observe something we know what it is.

That's a false assumption. To much ego in science. All of the intelligence built into the universe is a coincidence nothing more.

a reply to: SecretKnowledge

Nice! Interplanetary Spirograph!! Very pretty designs.

Nice find, OP, S&F!

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: theyknowwhoyouare

They have become entangled with one another via electromagnetic attraction.

You do not seem to understand the terminology. It is weird stuff but it has nothing to do with "electromagnetic attraction." It means that two entangled particles (protons cannot be entangled with electrons because they are very different) will exhibit the same quantum properties not matter each is influenced. Not binary.

Or maybe I was using the general definition for the term

cause to become twisted together with or caught in.

You have brought nothing to the table to disprove my statement. A car moving at 50mph is still the same car if it lowers its speed to 40mph and is still the same car if it spins out. An electron is an electron regardless of its flavor.

Ah Phage, crashing another great thread in an attempt to bait an argument out of it, never surprises or impresses.

Back to the topic at hand, I think this fits nicely with the ideas of Sacred Geometry and intelligent design, quite intriguing.

a reply to: theyknowwhoyouare

Or maybe I was using the general definition for the term

Instead of the one which deals with subatomic particles?

An electron is an electron regardless of its flavor.

And yet, it is not the same as every other electron. My Ford Focus is not the same as every Ford Focus. Electrons are not binary.

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: theyknowwhoyouare

FACTS or theoretical perspectives?

We assume to think that because we can observe something we know what it is.

That's a false assumption. To much ego in science. All of the intelligence built into the universe is a coincidence nothing more.

Science is nothing more than a logical representation of our observed reality.

All we can really know is "I think therefore I am", and even that is debatable.

Seeing as we can't truly know anything is certain we must embrace the consistency of what we observe as fact.

a reply to: Konduit

Ah Phage, crashing another great thread in an attempt to bait an argument out of it, never surprises or impresses.

No.
I just pointed out that periodic motions create patterns. Someone else decided to claim that it is a demonstration that the Universe is a simulation. Based on...not much of anything.

a reply to: Konduit

CLEARLY there is an intelligent force operating deep within the universe.

Where do you think we come from?

Somehow people think that our intelligence (perceived) is limited only to us and that it's not a characteristic of the universe within itself.

Durrr.

Don't waste time talking to Phage he's not really trying to be right he just wants to derail the thread.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: theyknowwhoyouare

Or maybe I was using the general definition for the term

Instead of the one which deals with subatomic particles?

An electron is an electron regardless of its flavor.

And yet, it is not the same as every other electron. My Ford Focus is not the same as every Ford Focus. Electrons are not binary.

The term "entangled" has been around much longer than the theory of particle entanglement and therefore is used, by me, in my everyday speech.

Your opinion is that electrons/protons are not binary, my opinion is that it is. Find a way to disprove what I am saying and I will gladly concede to your obviously greater intelligence. That isn't sarcasm by the way, honestly.

a reply to: theyknowwhoyouare

Find a way to disprove what I am saying and I will gladly concede to your obviously greater intelligence.

Intelligence, not so much. Curiosity on the other hand.

An electron can exist with any combination of 4 "states".
chemwiki.ucdavis.edu...

That allows for 32 different "kinds" of electron. At least. Not binary. Not "is it there or not."

a reply to: Phage

So would hydrogen atoms moving in two different directions and speeds make them different?

I am confused. Is this thread about geometric patterns of planets or binary coding of electrons and protons? I love the amazing patterns that can be found throughout the universe, it may be only coincidental, but it still is amazing. OP what type of patterns occur between other planets? I don't have the ability to run a line between the planets myself. Did you try out the Jupiter and Saturn dance? What about mars and earth?

a reply to: CynConcepts

OP what type of patterns occur between other planets?

Click the link provided by the OP.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: theyknowwhoyouare

Evidence for creation? Evidence of simulation theory? I think so...

Why? Because periodic motions create pretty patterns? I don't see the connection.

On the other hand, people see evidence for creation in a pretty sunset. No pattern.

How simple it is to write off the 'pretty sunset' as a pretty sunset.

The enormity of the planetary systems/math/physics involved to create the masterpiece is beyond our comprehension. Yet...we wave it off as something so 'ordinary' and proof of nothing greater.

I think that if one were to look at the larger picture of a sunset, they would see all sorts of patterns, including what is being referenced in the OPs article. Evidence of a creator? Well, that would all come down to what you believe, and what you think it takes to create this universe.

a reply to: westcoast

Yet...we wave it off as something so 'ordinary' and proof of nothing greater.

Who said anything about "ordinary", or "proof" for that matter?

Well, that would all come down to what you believe, and what you think it takes to create this universe.

Yes.

a reply to: onequestion

When we observe something, we do not necessarily know what it is immediately, however, when we compare it to what we do know, and all of the pieces come together, there is no need for conjecture outside of the realm of science, unless something does not fit.

When a process seems otherwise so perfect, and something does not fit, it causes us to observe it in the extreme.

From a quantum viewpoint, the act of observing anything, changes it in subtle ways that ultimately create our reality.

It follows that we eventually create a reality in which it does fit.

originally posted by: CynConcepts
I am confused. Is this thread about geometric patterns of planets or binary coding of electrons and protons? I love the amazing patterns that can be found throughout the universe, it may be only coincidental, but it still is amazing. OP what type of patterns occur between other planets? I don't have the ability to run a line between the planets myself. Did you try out the Jupiter and Saturn dance? What about mars and earth?

As was pointed out already, click on the link in the OP

a reply to: Phage
Thank you for the direction. The link didn't work for me earlier, my old IPad just brought up a blank screen.

I must admit, I am still confused why there is a debate about electrons and sub-atomics? I am just trying to understand what I am missing with the correlation to the Ensign Software program the Op linked too.