Holy miracle! Watch Virgin Mary's Lips 'MOVE' on Painting During Prayer

originally posted by: Macenroe82
It also looks like her eyes where moving as well.

But why was this guy video taping the picture in the first place? Seems sort of set up

Because it is set up.
Unless they can get a scientific team in there to check the painting and independently confirm that this happened, the most plausible and likely explanation is that someone has taken an incredibly poor quality video of a painting and deliberately manipulated it to give the appearance of movement.

Reminder - paintings cannot come alive.

I just read that on july 5th a girl from the same church also recorded her lips moving.
There has been many witnesses to this event.
I personally dont know what to make of it. Part of me wants to believe it could be a miracle, but my common sense tells me otherwise.


www.dailymail.co.uk... h.html

originally posted by: Macenroe82
I just read that on july 5th a girl from the same church also recorded her lips moving.
There has been many witnesses to this event.
I personally dont know what to make of it. Part of me wants to believe it could be a miracle, but my common sense tells me otherwise.


www.dailymail.co.uk... h.html

Until you witness something miraculous yourself in person it can and does seem like a fabrication by over zealous believers or plain liars.

I've seen a miracle first hand and I believe, but for everyone else relying on youtube, the choice is yours to see and believe or pass it off as cgi or bad phone cameras.

originally posted by: Rocker2013

Reminder - paintings cannot come alive.

But can they become temporarily animated?

Remember a miracle involves the laws of nature being temporarily suspended momentarily.......

It could also be some kind of amazing technology that is repressed and used by the church to make people believe. It could be aliens with superior technology manipulating things to ensure we follow spiritual messages. If could be God himself. Who knows

The point is that people see this stuff and it does happen and it is being recorded on phone cameras now that we have them with us all the time.

originally posted by: markosity1973

originally posted by: Rocker2013

Reminder - paintings cannot come alive.

But can they become temporarily animated?

Remember a miracle involves the laws of nature being temporarily suspended momentarily.......

It could also be some kind of amazing technology that is repressed and used by the church to make people believe. It could be aliens with superior technology manipulating things to ensure we follow spiritual messages. If could be God himself. Who knows

The point is that people see this stuff and it does happen and it is being recorded on phone cameras now that we have them with us all the time.

Remember....miracles are make believe. They dont actually happen.

And since as you say, we all have phones that can record video and nothing in all these years has surfaced that is even remotely convincing...then im gonna have to side with the "its all fairy tales" camp.

originally posted by: markosity1973

originally posted by: Macenroe82
I just read that on july 5th a girl from the same church also recorded her lips moving.
There has been many witnesses to this event.
I personally dont know what to make of it. Part of me wants to believe it could be a miracle, but my common sense tells me otherwise.


www.dailymail.co.uk... h.html

Until you witness something miraculous yourself in person it can and does seem like a fabrication by over zealous believers or plain liars.

I've seen a miracle first hand and I believe, but for everyone else relying on youtube, the choice is yours to see and believe or pass it off as cgi or bad phone cameras.

Wow...aint that conveniant!

originally posted by: Macenroe82
I just read that on july 5th a girl from the same church also recorded her lips moving.
There has been many witnesses to this event.
I personally dont know what to make of it. Part of me wants to believe it could be a miracle, but my common sense tells me otherwise.


www.dailymail.co.uk... h.html

many witnesses, but no high def footage. Nothing. Zip. nada. No one with a phone or an ipad to record video...Nope, they ALL came empty handed.

wait a tic, i think i've seen something like this before...





but, seriously. for some reason i've always been interested in similar stories of crying, bleeding or otherwise animated religious statues. the stories of which seem to be never-ending throughout time.

It looks like the camera is creating some kind of hazy mirage. The camera doesnt stay in one spot and you can see baby Jesus also move his lips. Hopefully someone with a better HD camera stands in front of the portrait and starts praying. Then it'll be a different story

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: Stormdancer777
this one made me laugh out loud, of course it isn't real.

Of course how? It's the religious ones that have the most hubris, always, I notice. Other people debate back and forth, pixelation, not pixelation, heat waves, what witnesses said,etc. But the one with the most hubris comes in like a child, LOLing.

seriously?

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: reldra

So speaks the most sanctimonious.

ty, ketsuko

I am a Catholic and we know miracles occur, they happen all the time.

I think there's a very good chance this happened. If I recall, this takes place in a church? We don't pull off hoaxes to make money, especially in a church. If you think otherwise, you're either poorly informed or have a nefarious anti-Catholic agenda. It's ok though, I'm quite familiar with both.


a reply to: IAMTAT

That video you posted of Our Lady opening and closing her eyes is hard to debunk. That's either real, or a blatant fake, no in-between. No trick of light.

But like that Hispanic fella said in the other video; to a non-believer? No miracle is possible, nothing would convince them.

That kind of a closed mind is rather sad.





a reply to: markosity1973

a reply to: Ignatian

Miracles do happen and especially in a place of worship. There are other things such as the statue of Virgin Mary crying and bleeding from the eyes. To my knowledge, I dont think they have been debunked.

However, in this particular video, there is blurriness all around and you can see things coming in and out of focus which gives it the impression that she is moving her mouth. If this was captured in high definition, then I think it'd be safe to say a miracle is happening.

I'm awaiting the next video to resurface proving that it really does move.

originally posted by: Ignatian
That video you posted of Our Lady opening and closing her eyes is hard to debunk. That's either real, or a blatant fake, no in-between. No trick of light.

More likely a trick of predictive compression algorithms.

originally posted by: Answer

originally posted by: ManBehindTheMask
why didnt they zoom in closer?

Thats my question

Because then everyone could REALLY see how fake it looked.

my thoughts exactly. i dont trust any video that is more than a couple feet away from said "miracle".

originally posted by: Ignatian
I am a Catholic and we know miracles occur, they happen all the time.

I think there's a very good chance this happened. If I recall, this takes place in a church? We don't pull off hoaxes to make money, especially in a church. If you think otherwise, you're either poorly informed or have a nefarious anti-Catholic agenda. It's ok though, I'm quite familiar with both.


a reply to: IAMTAT

I'm a (lapsed) Catholic too. As Catholics we are conditioned to accept that these things just happen. The thing that people on the outside don't understand is that there are just as many skeptics within the church. I've even met priests who don't believe this sort of thing happens.

There is no agenda for fraud and fakery from the Vatican - each approved event goes through a fair amount of investigation before it is held up by the church and deemed worthy of belief. The moving painting would not be an approved miracle I am pretty sure.

Having witnessed miracles via Medjugorje, I have moved past if the point of IF they are happening to the Who is behind them and why are they doing it? (Which to a Catholic is obvious and easy to accept)

You've been to Medjugorje?

Medjugorje has fascinated me since the 80s and have always wanted to pilgrimage there. I have friends who've witnessed the miracle of the sun there, and have seen their videos. It's not possible to stare at the sun, but I saw them doing it for quite some time on video.

I've been told in the past this apparition won't be approved while it is still ongoing, as is alleged. But, now, I hear grumblings that it won't be approved at all.

If that were the case, my question would be the same as yours; ok, then who or what is causing the sun phenomenon in Medjugorge, because there's no doubt in my mind that SOMEthing is going on there.

I believe it's Mary. But I'm just a sheep, I'll go along with whatever the shepherd decides.

a reply to: markosity1973

fakea reply to: alienjuggalo

crazy


a reply to: Ignatian