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reply to post by blue cell


Young Man,
Respectfully as one who served many years honorably (nuff said) I suggest the following:
1. Let go of that thing in your hand
2. Get out of bed and go to school
3. Finish school
4. See to your allergies
5. Take a physical
6. Join the Army
7. Finish clerk-typist school (Some poor overworked First Shirt in Iraq needs you)
When you are finished you will have a ribbon or two, and maybe a chest to pin them on.
For every ten thousand wannabe super troopers there is one real one.
If you carefully deflate and pack your girl, she will wait for you (if the dog doesn't chew holes in her in your absence).
Now get to it maggot! "Mommy, that mean old sergeant called me a name!"
You will find you do not have time to play fantasy online forces critic, and may even have a close brush with manhood.
Please, blue cell, in your next posting could you detail your military career and operational history (XBOX and Nintendo campaigns do not count).

reply to post by BASSPLYR


Retired Army and I teach college English Lit and Comp. If your writing isn't important enough to do right, what makes it important enough to read?

reply to post by BASSPLYR


Sir,
I was born and raised in L.A. Now I am certain I made the right choice in leaving "Hell A" for good many years ago. At least I brought some excellent seeds with me. My brother still lives in the Valley teaching at Cal State Northridge. Careful or I'll sic him on you Peace out!

Well I could understand why someone would want to leave LA for good. It's expensive here, and the people are (generaly) superficial jerks who are waaaaaaay too into their meaningless lives, which of course they think are so important.

I've studied at CSUN before. Learned how to read music from one of the jazz instructors there. I remember walking through that huge orange grove they have when travelling from the parking lot to the music practice rooms. The smell was wonderful when the orange blossoms were at the height of their bloom. Nice campus.

As for my college english courses. My composition teacher didn't appreciate my brand of story telling. got a c- for making my final composition about the plot to the pilot episode I wrote for Mr. T. Basically I wanted Mr. T to make a comeback to the TV sitcom scean. His character would be a dim witted, but overly aggressive Repo Man.

I discussed how awsome it would be for mr. t. to storm into some rich guys house in Beverly Hills and be all like "You didn't pay your bills sucka!!!! Nice desk!!" (BLAM!!Slaps a sticker that says 'reposessed' on the fancy table) "Nice Candy Bar!!!" Rips it out of rich guys hands and begins to eat it "Mine Now!" Then after reposessing all the guys stuff he would leave saying his catch phrase "I pitty the fool...who don't pay his bills!"

He went to the pound to get the biggest dog he could find. Walks out with a 200 pound rotweiler with diabeties or something called Mr. Winkums. The dog follows him around loyally wheezing until one day the original owner of the dog turnes out to be one of his marks who hasn't payed his bills. Mr. Winkums runs off with the nogoodnik into the night.

Without his new sidekick MR. T then gets a midget CPA who looks like mini me, walks around in a little pinstirped suit, and clicks away constantly at his calculator coming up with new facts and figures etc... when one mark gets troublesome MR. T simply picks up his side kick plops him down on the fancy rich man's desk and the midget starts walking around stepping all over the mans paperwork clicking away on his calculator spouting out doom and gloom figures to the rich man until he either pays his bills or gets all of his stuff reposessed.

Not a bad plot. My teacher disagreed and gave me a barely passing grade. go figure.

Seriously though Special Detachement Grey Sock is the most advanced SF group around. That and my Ninja friend. But he's busy taking out Lopan's army of the undead in the labryinths below China Town in San Fransico.

Also,

You came away with a few good seeds from LA? LA's only got one type of plant that produces seeds that it's well known for. Curious. maybe it's an allegory for something else.

reply to post by BASSPLYR


Nothing very personal, but I concur with your instructor (not only in the matters of plot line and character development, but style. You are Peter Griffin aren't you? When one's taste and style is all in one's mouth, it may be best to just stick with eating.

Originally posted by BASSPLYR
Also,

You came away with a few good seeds from LA? LA's only got one type of plant that produces seeds that it's well known for. Curious. maybe it's an allegory for something else.

Never mind, my child. Just never you mind. love them avocados

Originally posted by Ankil
reply to post by devilwasp

 

Hey, I saw the movie "ffolkes", too. The following is not aimed at you personally, and I am not picking on you; But it is appalling to me how horrible the atrocities perpetrated against the English language on this website are at times. Please, proofread your postings aloud prior to posting them and check your spelling and grammar. Some postings can be quite difficult to follow logically, and the distraction of poor writing can make them impossible to comprehend. For contributors in the U.S. and British Commonwealth whose native and primary language is English this mental slovenliness is inexcusable. To those here for whom English is a secondary or even tertiary language your efforts are appreciated; continue to strive for excellence.

Sigh..


A) You'll have to pardon my spelling , I was never good at it and frankly at the moment dont have the time to correct that fault...

B) No offence sir but who are you to get on at me about spelling?

C) Lay off Bluecell, he was 12 when he made this thread so frankly I doubt he was able to join any Armed forces except the boys brigades in africa...

D) If you wish to have a conversation with someone its generally regarded as a bad step to critisise them in the opening discussion.

I"m wondering if anyone has thought about the Canadian special forces unit.

JTF 2

I had made a post about them quite a few months ago.

You'd be surprised what our JTF 2 operators have done in the past.

Well I disagree with both of you english professors. Comedy Central would love my little sitcom idea. I think mr. T would too. he could come out of retirement and do adds for vicks vapo rub, bengay, and maybe one of the ubiquitus phizer comercials where the pill has worse side effects than the actual ailment it treats, during all of the shows commercial breaks... it could work.

Seriously LA has a billion avacado trees. can walk right down the street and harvest all the avacodos one could want. but alas, LA is not famous for it's avacado seeds.

WHy would you think I am most similar to a Family Guy Charichter? I look more like a smaller jack black and my personality is more like master shake. I know you know who master shake is right mr. hypno toad? Yeah thats right I know you like to watch adult swim or something when your not gleefully covering student's final semester compositions with red ink.

Originally posted by W4rl0rD
Broad,You are pro-american,i can see that. In the spetsnaz discipline is a lot higher. You actually get smacked in the face for doing something wrong while in the seals or delta force, all you get is some yelling. It is common knowledge that the spetsnaz is better trained.

that wouldn't be quiet accurate

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Best point of the thread.

I'm also ex-SF (4RAR Commando) - to claim one SF unit can whoop the ass of another clearly shows ones lack of understanding of the inherent nature of SF capability.

For example, can anyone explain the difference in roles between the Commando Regiment and the Australian SAS? Who is harder? Who would win?

I don't want a text book answer, or a Googled answer, but the real, simple answer. The truth is, unless you're versed in real life, military experience, you won't have a clue; and this is the point that The Saint was getting at.

The diffrences are massive, but not overly clear - and there are proper bad asses in all different units. I personally know of a "standard" grunt, who would easily knock ten shades of shi* out of the majority of SF operators I've met. I've also worked with very well formed infantry units who would come very close to besting a SF unit - different roles, different skill groups.

Well,

This thread was certainly entertaining in spots.



NSDQ

reply to post by Ankil[/url]

I concur with me olde matey Devil. Lay off Blue Cell.

He's a good kid at heart and 'mothers' like you should be encouraging him - not putting him down.

But I guess that's all people like you can do: The 'Been There & Done That' Syndrome where the only view that matters is yours, because you've been 'incountry' and they haven't.

Anybody can play in the sand, even REMFs and claim that they were 'up the sharp end'!

So give the guy a chance and he'll probably come good - especially if he has the right instructors like the Saint and PaddyInf.


[edit on 18-6-2008 by fritz]

Originally posted by W4rl0rD
Broad,You are pro-american,i can see that. In the spetsnaz discipline is a lot higher. You actually get smacked in the face for doing something wrong while in the seals or delta force, all you get is some yelling. It is common knowledge that the spetsnaz is better trained.

By your logic, "spetsnaz" wins because they get smacked in the face...LMFAO. I'm guessing you haven't spent much time around *anyone* from *any* special forces groups? I have...and have found all to be respectable people, no matter where they're from. Enough with the 5 yr old thought process on "the way things are" (no offense to 5 yr olds).

Anyone who says Delta is better than SEALs who are better than SAS who are better than blah blah blah is an idiot armchair commando who has never been around any of these people. If you pack a 3 digit IQ and have spent considerable time with operators from any service, you wouldn't embarrass yourself with such stupid comments.

DELTA FORCE INFO

The 1st Special Forces Operational Detachment-Delta (SFOD-D) is one of two units in the United States Armed Forces assigned primarily to combat terrorism. The other is the Navy's 'Dev Group.' Delta members are experts at counterinsurgency, small unit tactics, and various infiltration techniques.

Many of them come from Ranger battalions or Special Forces (Green Berets) groups. They are well seasoned, well conditioned and are some of the most experienced soldiers in the service. But as Mark Bowden, author of Black Hawk Down, said, "They are professional soldiers who hate the army." They are very independent warriors who like working in small teams and are very resilient.

While the military acknowledges the existence of special mission units like Delta Force, it does not specify what they are called or their locations, staffing or organizational structure. Unofficially, Delta Force is considered one of the U.S. military's elite special operations units, its members drawn from all branches. Based at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, its formal name is 1st Special Forces Operational Detachment - Delta.

Delta Force was created by Army Col. Charles Beckwith in the late 1970s and based on the British Special Air Service counter terrorism unit. Its members are known as "operators" and divided into three squadrons. Details of the composition, strength, abilities and operations of Delta Force remain a closely guarded secret. But the unit is thought to be equipped with the most advanced weaponry and equipment the U.S. military has to offer. Unit members undergo an extensive selection and assessment process before joining the unit.

ostage rescue is considered a Delta Force specialty. In 1989, during Operation Just Cause in Panama, Delta Force operatives rescued U.S. businessman Kurt Muse from Modelo Prison in Panama City. Muse had been arrested for running a CIA-supplied clandestine radio station.

Delta Force members are selected for specific traits, whether it's language skills, an ability to shoot someone from a half-mile away or extreme physical endurance. But usually they pick them for a lack of showy machismo. They're extremely low-key; some of them look like superheroes, but most of them tend to be laid-back, slow to anger, not show-offy in any way. For one thing, it's difficult to be the best in an occupation and yet be sworn to secrecy. Once you're in that unit you dress as a civilian, wear civilian hair and can grow a beard.

They live in a private secret world and don't tell anyone what they do. They train constantly. They're ascetics because part of the discipline is being able to dig a hole and live in it for a week or get dropped in the middle of a desert and find your way out.

They like to say that Delta Force is the haven for great soldiers who hate the army. They're older than most soldiers, they like what they do and hate the chain of command. They call each other by nicknames and don't really recognize rank. Some of the most respected people in those units are noncommissioned officers, sergeants.

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Charlie Beckwith spent a whole year with 22 Special Air Service in 1962/3.

He probably saw service in Aden, Borneo, the Radfan or the first Oman campaign although I suspect it was mainly Borneo.

It could be argued that Beckwith was so impressed with the methodology of the SAS, that the 'Delta' unit he created, was a near mirror image of the SAS.

For a completely biased view of 'Delta' see:

www.specialoperations.com/Army/Delta_Force/unit_profile.htm

in regards to Canadian SOF, do some research into Operation Anaconda in Afghanistan. The Conooks have the longest sniper kill.

With the respect to ALL SMUs' thru-out the world.....please do NOT do a win-loss to show the effectiveness and efficiency that one country's elite may tag. Many more ops have occurred for them, pro AND con..... than you have been made aware of. So to wave that banner as proof, would be, in my opinion, unfair to us that have walked the walk.

All this "our special ops are better than your special ops" is immature nonsense.