special forces profiles

Originally posted by devilwasp
They practice boat assualts on ferrys in the english channels with passengers still on board.

The SBS are based in Poole in Dorset and I work for the main ferry operator of poole. They do train on assulting a moving ferry but NEVER on a passenger ferry. They only practise on the Freight Ferry as itr would scare the passengers too much if they did it on the passenger one.

Originally posted by arnold_vosloo
The SBS are based in Poole in Dorset and I work for the main ferry operator of poole. They do train on assulting a moving ferry but NEVER on a passenger ferry. They only practise on the Freight Ferry as itr would scare the passengers too much if they did it on the passenger one.

They have once or twice, but I think only on very specific ones.
They made a screw up once by boarding the wrong boat.

Ps, if you dont mind me asking, what job do you do?


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Originally posted by Broadsword20068
America only has one Special Forces, and those are of the Army.



The Special Forces are one of America's Special Operations forces. Other Spec Ops forces are Army Delta Force (which as far as anyone knows is for counter-terrorism), Navy SEALS, Army Rangers, Air Force Pararescue, Air Force ground controllers, and probably a few others I am forgetting about.

For the record: Special Forces and Special Operations Forces are the Same thing. They are all SpecOp's as they are often called. US Special Forces consist of the fallowing units:

US ARMY:

US Army Green Berets
US Army Rangers
US Army Delta Force
US Army 160th Special Operations Avition Regement
US Army PSYOPS
Long Range Survallence Units

US AIR FORCE:

US Air Force Special Operations Command
Special Tactics Teams
Pararescue (PJs)
Combat Weather Teams
Tactical Air Control Parties (TACPs)
Combat Controller Teams (CCTs)
Aviation FID
Phoenix Ravens

US NAVY:

Special Boat Units (SBR)
Mobile Communications Team (MCT)
US Navy SEALS
Very Shallow Water Mine Countermeasures Detachment

US MARINES:

Force Recon
Marine Scout / Snipers
Reconnaissance Battalions
4th Civil Affairs Group (CAG)
Marine Security Guard Battalion
Direct Action Platoons (DAP)
Radio Reconnaissance Teams
Special Reaction Teams (SRT)
US Marine Corps' Maritime Special Purpose Force
Marine Expeditionary Units - Special Operations Capable - MEU(SOC)
Fleet Antiterrorism Security Team (FAST)
Chemical Biological Incident Response Force (CBIRF)

Task Force 160


All of the above units were listed at Special Operations.Com. If anyone wants to look up the detais of these units, visit : Special Operation.Com

Tim
ATS Director of Counter-Ignorance

The first new zealand special unit was called the Taranaki Bush Rangers, they were formed in 1863 to counter the Maori tribe. They acted as scouts and protected the communications of the english forces. In world war II New Zealanders were part of the long range desert group, there mission was to conduct raids and recon on the German and Italian forces in North Africa. In 1956 a NZAS squadron was attached with the SAS in Malaya, were they fought against Malaysian communists in which they fought quit nicely. Aside from fighting communists they also trained villagers in UW tactics, in over a dozen single engagments only one NZAS trooper was killed. The NZAS also had the job of countering Indoneshian Communists insurgents in Borneo, here in the harsh jungle enviorments the Kiwis tracking skills were called upon, ( in North Africa they New Zealand special forces were called Kiwi scouts). They recently have been involved in tracking down Al Qaida terrorists in the Afghani mountains.


NZSAS link

On one of the training ranges at the base, several soldiers go through basic routines-climbing, rappelling and evacuating the injured. Donning bright red helmets, from afar, they look like giant red ants scurry around on a massive concrete wall.
Training on this wall is more difficult than actually climbing a mountain, said Capt. Adrian Buzea. “The wall has a 90-degree inclination and even worse in areas where the wall is built with parts that stand out,” he said. “On the mountain, you can climb as if you were climbing a set of stairs. On a rock, you have the freedom to choose the route that may be easier, but here, you do not have that choice.”
Since 1995, the 21st Mountain Battalion has rappelled from helicopters in joint exercises with U.S. Special Forces, Army Rangers and Navy SEALs, said Cernea.
Soldiers also read U.S. Army 10th Mountain Division manuals and the Ranger handbook, among others, said Ionescu.
Commander of the 2nd Mountain Hunters Brigade is Brig. Gen. Ion Bucaciuc.
His men train for free-climb up sheer rock, speedy traverses by zip wiring high above, rappellings, ambushes, observations, rescue missions and anti-terrorist missions on a daily basis.
They call themselves the masters of improvisation. They comb the mountainsides on horseback, conducting various operations ranging from humanitarian assistance and peace-keeping, to search and rescue at extreme heights, observations and all the specific war missions.
"We certainly have enough difficulties, but we always figure a way out", said Lt. Col. Cristinel Cernea, the battalion commander.
Mountain Hunters are trained to be independent and to survive in an inclement mountain environment, while conducting covert missions.
The history of this mountain battalion goes back to World War II. It was set up in 1940 to defend Romania’s northwestern border. Two years later, these troops were deployed to the Crimean Peninsula. The battalion was dissolved in 1946 and reshaped in 1961.
For the future, members of this elite battalion will be drawn to a module incorporated in the integrated special forces battalion.
Until the summer of 2003, the 21st Battalion has stood up an operational company of 170 soldiers that can be deployed for NATO commitments. The company can deploy in 12 hours for search and rescue missions and in 30 days for collective defense or large-scale combat.
In September of that same year, the whole battalion had become operational within NATO, together with the entire 2nd Mountain Brigade, to which this battalion belongs. Brig Gen Bucaciuc stated that Romania will be able to send a complete battalion on NATO missions rather than a single company.
On a typical day, soldiers carry about 40 kg on their back, and depending on the mission they can carry up to 50 kg (100 pounds). But a commander said that is not considered too heavy. Each soldier has to be able to operate independently. If this independence is not created, and the support for this independence is not there, then he can't accomplish his mission.
The soldiers are trained and outfitted to be self-sufficient. Logistics support is more challenging in the mountains. Each soldier is equipped with everything he may need to survive, including a medical kit.
Every company in the battalion has a medical group, which receives its training and certificates from Romanian medical assistance services. Every unit has its own doctor who keeps the medical groups up to speed.
To move the injured down from the mountain (or the wall), the soldiers use a pulley that allows two men to bring down a casualty tied up in a stretcher. A single soldier also can do that, or he can simply carry the injured on his back if it is not a serious injury. When they lack any other means of transporting a casualty, the soldiers have learned to use a sturdy wooden rod to transport the injured. At the heights in which they operate it is often impossible to carry a stretcher.



Wow all I have to say is these guys would be perfect in Afghanistan, that is if their not already there, I mean they have one of the best mountain special forces units in the world. Also they could probably work with the SASR, and the NZAS and get amazing results, I mean the Aussi and New Zealand SAS troops are very good at tracking, plus there good at mountain warfare. And the Mountain Hunters do a lot of joint training, so I have know doubt that they could do joint operations and be succesfull.

Training
DIAS members train on a daily basis. Seven days a week, 365 days a year, every day is a training day. The training session usually lasts for 6 hours, and comprises of hand-to-hand combat, urban warfare training, and fire arms training.
The DIAS detachment from Constanta has its own training program. The commander, a married man, leads the way in the 5 km run accross the shores of the Black Sea. During the run, all the fighters wear full gear, which comprises of a heavy bullet-proof jacket, a Glock 9mm pistol, back-up magazines, lantirns, hand-cuffs, boots and clothing made of kevlar and tuaron.
At the end of the 5 km run, the fighters go into the sea, and when the sea level reaches their wastes, they start a punishing martial arts training session. When that is also over, its back to the barracks, and back to fire arms training.
Although each commander is allowed to modify the training program (i.e. of course one can not train in the Black Sea if you live in a city at the other end of the country), training is more or less the same for all DIAS formations accross the country.

www.geocities.com..." target="_blank" class="postlink">Romanian SWAT

Intresting way of training kicking in the sea, but I'm sure it gets there kicks faster and there legs stronger. Sounds kinda like water boxing, also there training sounds a little like Seal Team 6 training. Basically the commander of the unit is responsible for the units fitness, and training.

Special operation units are good at specific tasks that they specialized in. Send them to do something they are not prepared to deal with, and they die just like anyone else.

As for combat effectiveness, I believe regular Army and Marine fire teams fighting in Iraq have more combat experience, have survived more abuse, and could put most of the World's special operations unit to shame.

It is easy to do a force entry into a build, get our man, pull pitch and fly home. It is hell doing it, and going next door and doing it again, and again, and again... My vote goes to that GI fighting house to house. A real band of brothers...

Here is the link to the page on the mountain hunters, forgot to put it in my last post. The Mountain Hunters -

Missions

The Brigade is called upon for hostage rescuing, counter-terrorist operations, search and rescue, pipeline protection, sensitive objectives protection and other such missions during peace time.
When the brigade is not required to participate with large numbers of combatants at such operations, the fighters are patrolling the streets of Bucharest, in regular equipment.




Training


Brigade fighters are required to act in various environments, ranging from urban to mountainous, from lowlands to lakes, rivers and even out the sea.
As such, it takes many years to train a special intervention jandarm. The first lessons to be learned regard hand-to-hand combat. For this, most of the Jandarms are specialists in two distinctive martial arts styles: Kyokushin street-fighting and Tangsongdo, the latter being specialized in fighting with sharp objects (knives, swords, etc).
The special forces train with their collegues from the reggular mobile battalions, to ensure they keep the pace with everything that is going on in the streets. New fighting methods used by thugs, new robbing techniques, specific language and new weapons used by the criminals must all be known by the fighters.
Some of the fighters are qualified divers, while all of them are also mountain warfare specialists.




This unit does over 1,500 missions per year! Is that amazing or what? I think US special forces combined do like 3,500 or something. But wow thats amazing, although they kinda are the national guard, or intervention unit. But either way I can tell this unit is, a key part of keeping stability in Romania.

Originally posted by skippytjc
I just found a previously top secret photo of a French Special Forces operative. I found it on a public site, so I dont mind sharing it:

I know, I know, Im going to hell. But I just had to!!! Why cant we have a little fun here every now and then? Its healthy!!

I would laugh if I didn't know you better.

Originally posted by W4rl0rD
To me,the Spetsnaz is the best trained special force,their discipline and spirit is unmatched,and their skills are also superior to most western forces. You get smacked in the face if you do anything wrong while training in the spetsnaz.

Spetznaz are far from the best trained according to Ken Connor, longest serving SAS trooper. Read his book "Ghost Force".

Here is the www.geocities.com... to the group I talked about last time. Sorry guys can a mod fix the link, its screwed up ?

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Does anyone have hardcorps facts on missions that force recon marines have been on or on how often they get used, other then www.specialoperations.com

Originally posted by punkmonkey14
Does anyone have hardcore facts on missions that force recon marines have been on or on how often they get used, other then www.specialoperations.com

Here is a link that should help!
force recon missions

Well one unit was the Chindits, here is some basic info on them.



Operation Longcloth

In February 8 1943 in Operation Longcloth, 3000 Chindits, Wingate with them, begun their march into Burma. The original intent had been to use the Chindits as a part of a larger offensive but it was cancelled when the thrust along the Arakan coast faltered.

The chindits crossed the Chindwin River February 13 and faced the first Japanese troops two days later. Two columns marched to the north and received their air supply drops in the broad daylight to create an impression that they were the main attack. They even had a man impersonating a British general along them. RAF mounted air attack to Japanese targets to enforce the deception.

Five other columns, lead by one under the command of brigadier Michael Calvert, proceeded eastward. Three of them later turned north to attack Japanese garrisons but two, of Calvert and Bernard Fergusson, proceeded towards a valley with most railway connections. March 4 Calvert's column reached the valley and demolished the railway from 70 places. Fergusson arrived two days later to do the same.

Many times they could not take their wounded home; some were left with friendly Burmese villagers. Since there were no established paths in the jungle, they had to clear their own with machetes and kukris. A single RAF squadron of 6 planes supplied them by air and not all supply drops found their way to the troops.

When the major force of Chindits crossed Irrawaddy river in March 18, the Japanese already knew about them and had sent three regiments against them. First Japanese sent troops to cut their supply lines before they noticed the air drops; after that, those troops were sent against the Chindits.


Here is another en.wikipedia.org..." target="_blank" class="postlink">unit,

there's to much info on there for me to copy and paste just to give you an idea of what the unit did, so read it yourself!

What I did notice is that the unit has three componets diver, raider, and SBS. Just like Sayeret 13! Intresting huh? I know they do training with them, probably pretty close ties since both countries have coastlines on the mediteranean sea. Also they have a unit like America, the study centre group, the unit I'm comparing it to is DEVGRU,




link

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wat are u trying to do blue cell? finding and revealing every secretive special forces. trying to tell the terrorists who they are, where they are based, wat weapons and tactics they used?

Originally posted by deltaboy
wat are u trying to do blue cell? finding and revealing every secretive special forces.

trying to tell the terrorists who they are, where they are based, wat weapons and tactics they used?

He is trying to make a profile for every special forces unit, why does everything have to revolve around terrorists?

Originally posted by deltaboy
wat are u trying to do blue cell? finding and revealing every secretive special forces.

trying to tell the terrorists who they are, where they are based, wat weapons and tactics they used?

Just adding my own knowledge, it would be pretty stupid if I just posted other peoples stuff and never had a opinion or anything.

Originally posted by devilwasp

He is trying to make a profile for every special forces unit, why does everything have to revolve around terrorists?

because the units here are design to take on the terrorists. why else are they designed for. u dink Delta was just for decoration to make the world believe America has a supersecret unit that do nothing.