Why Climate Change is Worse Than We Thought

originally posted by: beezzer
How is the money spent in saving the planet?

Is it spend in altering the jet stream?
Re-capping the poles?

How much is spent on reversing solar radiation?

What Does It Matter?

You haven't contributed money either way. There are 'carbon taxes' in very few places. The world is doing nothing, as a whole, to combat the changes wrought by climate right now, never mind the future.

Do you look at cracks in your walls and dismiss them as not existing because you could spend money fixing them?

a reply to: lostbook

As Ive said...climate is SUPPOSED to change. Affected by man with pollution and resource depletion sure...but the world is formed, coastlines changed, famine, storms, tsunamis, earthquakes, major and mini ice ages and movement of Teutonic plates. Normal. All normal. All expected. All necessary.

Have WE as humans screwed up the water, air and land? Of course. Obviously. But this climate-this, climate change that, and ice-age ahead...those? Normal.

Our fault in exasperating it and making it longer and worse? Preventable? 50-50%. Because its supposed to change anyway.

a reply to: Greven

Is carbon tax reversing the jet stream?
Is carbon tax reversing solar rays?
Is carbon tax eliminating green house gases?

I'll caveat (for the moment) that man-made climate change is happening and we're all going to die next week, Thursday.

What is being done to stop it?

Other than raising taxes and creating taxes.

a reply to: mysterioustranger

No, this is abnormal.

We should be getting cooler right now - on the way towards a Little Ice Age. Instead, the Earth is warming.

We have altered the rotation of the Earth (see: really big dams like Three Gorges). We bloody well can change something like the climate if we can do that.

Stop pretending we are insignificant to escape responsibility.

a reply to: FyreByrd

The former top climate scientist at NASA, James Hansen, has headed a new study on Climate Change

Thats a good beginning . They are swapping them around like epson salt in an elephant because they are just not getting the following they think they should have.

originally posted by: beezzer
Is carbon tax reversing the jet stream?
Is carbon tax reversing solar rays?
Is carbon tax eliminating green house gases?

I'll caveat (for the moment) that man-made climate change is happening and we're all going to die next week, Thursday.

What is being done to stop it?

Other than raising taxes and creating taxes.

Do you understand economic theory?

A carbon tax is meant to motivate businesses to be cleaner - to reduce emissions. The money from said tax could go to renewables, research in figuring out how to recapture CO2, or whatever else.

WE ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING TO STOP CLIMATE CHANGE AND ARE IN FACT ACTIVELY AGGRAVATING IT.

If we were doomed Tuesday, people would cry and moan about paying taxes still.

Just Like You.

Here's an exercise: name the carbon taxes in place across the world today.

originally posted by: Gothmog
Thats a good beginning . They are swapping them around like epson salt in an elephant because they are just not getting the following they think they should have.

When everything goes to crap around the 2030s, I want you to remember this post.

Remember this post you have made, mocking people who warned us decades in advance.

Remember mine, too. If I am wrong, you can happily laugh at my foolishness. What damage will I have done?

Consider the alternative: what damage will you have done, if my foolishness is indeed fact?

a reply to: Greven

A carbon tax is meant to motivate businesses to be cleaner - to reduce emissions. The money from said tax could go to renewables, research in figuring out how to recapture CO2, or whatever else.

Businesses will merely pass the cost of the tax down to the people without a care..... and governments will approve it as "regulations"

a reply to: Greven

So the taxes don't do anything but financially penalize businesses unless they do something different.

But other than that, nothing is being done.

originally posted by: Gothmog
Businesses will merely pass the cost of the tax down to the people without a care..... and governments will approve it as "regulations"

Please rectify your deficiencies in economic thought.

a reply to: Greven

In the year 2200 we will look back and see this as just another non -event like Jade Helm , Y2K bug , so on and so forth...

originally posted by: beezzer
So the taxes don't do anything but financially penalize businesses unless they do something different.

But other than that, nothing is being done.

Nothing will be done because of people like you.

The world will burn. Pray that you don't live another 20 years.

originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: Greven

In the year 2200 we will look back and see this as just another non -event like Jade Helm , Y2K bug , so on and so forth...

And here you showcase your immense ignorance.

The Y2K bug didn't do much because a whole lot of people urgently worked to fix it. They busted their butts to make sure as little went wrong as possible, and they fortunately realized the problem before it was too late.

Guess what problem is already too late to solve? HINT: It's in the title of this thread.

originally posted by: Greven

originally posted by: Gothmog
Businesses will merely pass the cost of the tax down to the people without a care..... and governments will approve it as "regulations"

Please rectify your deficiencies in economic thought.

I hope you were just joking. You REALLY dont think they will do anything else , do you ? Do you live in the US ? Were you born yesterday ?Deficiencies in economic thought ? A 4th grader knows this.....

originally posted by: Greven

originally posted by: beezzer
So the taxes don't do anything but financially penalize businesses unless they do something different.

But other than that, nothing is being done.

Nothing will be done because of people like you.

The world will burn. Pray that you don't live another 20 years.

Well, I'm old so I would be lucky to see another 20 years.

But since I'm old, I remember in the 60's and 70's people saying that we were all going to die. . . oh about 20 years ago.

How about demolishing all those mega malls that are half empty, tearing up the mega asphalt parking lots at the same place, and planting some trees...?

The only man made climate change I experience is when I drive to Walmart... it's always at least 10 degrees higher there...

Just say no to the asphalt jungle...

tear down the malls and put up a paradise

YMMV

originally posted by: Gothmog
I hope you were just joking. You REALLY dont think they will do anything else , do you ? Do you live in the US ? Were you born yesterday ?Deficiencies in economic thought ? A 4th grader knows this.....

Do go on.

originally posted by: beezzer
Well, I'm old so I would be lucky to see another 20 years.

But since I'm old, I remember in the 60's and 70's people saying that we were all going to die. . . oh about 20 years ago.

Yet, I and others will suffer because of what you have helped create.

Wallowing in ignorance does not befit our elders, and yet many will embrace it for selfish reasons.

a reply to: Greven

Greven-"Stop pretending we are insignificant to escape responsibility. "

You've misread my position. It is changing. It is very much our fault in the way and in the timing of it. We screwed up.

To affect real change, we need to change ourselves because at this point, we very well be too late to do much about the damage we've done in expediting the severity of the change, and in the way(s) and speed it is coming.

Thanks

MS

originally posted by: Greven

Yet, I and others will suffer because of what you have helped create.

Wallowing in ignorance does not befit our elders, and yet many will embrace it for selfish reasons.

I'll have been on this planet for less than a century.

And yet I'll be responsible for it's doom?

(damn, gonna put that bitch on my resume!)

Gotta love a good pissin' fight in a thread. Complete with name calling and insults! You goooo guys!