7 billion people; most believe in a Higher God Creator Form yet fail to manifest IT into BEING

a reply to: vethumanbeing

*pure* of heart telling the truth to convince Pope Benedict the 16th to retire (you think this was easy?)

Who was that and did it have to do with Benedicts knowledge and coverups of pedophilia?
Whilst I ponder the main premise of your OP...

a reply to: starswift

When you are ready find advanced meditation through a great teacher or community

And yet it is wisely said that "when the student is ready the teacher will find him"

a reply to: vethumanbeing

We cant manifest god as "it" is in this universe and yet outside of it. We are still all connected to it through our higher self.

OR

We are advanced simulations/avatars in some programme, dreaming this existence ie for want of a better descriptor demi-gods creating our own planets.

The reason we don't manifest God into existence is because we don't have to.

IT is already there. All around. The "faith" that is required is just lacking for so many that they fail to ever see it.

Luke 17:6 - He replied, "If you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mulberry tree, 'Be uprooted and planted in the sea,' and it will obey you.

Do I advocate The Bible or Christianity as a belief system? No. But you can basically surmise the same words from a famous Atheist philosopher that was Nietzsche.

“And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.”

We are not Godless and we are not in a virtual world. Doubt is just so much easier to achieve wholeheartedly than faith will ever be.

originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: veteranhumanbeing

vhb:
*pure* of heart telling the truth to convince Pope Benedict the 16th to retire (you think this was easy?)

TheConstruKctionof Light: Who was that and did it have to do with Benedicts knowledge and coverups of pedophilia?
Whilst I ponder the main premise of your OP...

It had everything to do with dealing with the corrupt Vatican Bank and the pedophilia allegations (coverups). He was never suited to be a public figure; by nature retiring (shy) as Pope Paul's secretary and principle advisor on theological issues (the man behind the man?). He didn't have the fight in him and it seems Frances is suffering the same conundrum (can I fix the corruption within the church); he was considering doing away with the bank entirely. Who was what? Thanks for the response ConstruK.

originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: vethumanbeing

TheConstruKctionofLight: We cant manifest god as "it" is in this universe and yet outside of it. We are still all connected to it through our higher self.
OR
We are advanced simulations/avatars in some programme, dreaming this existence ie for want of a better descriptor demi-gods creating our own planets.

It was a tricky question. We haven't succeeded in manifesting "GOD" the AUO the absolute; but have been provided with by "Proxys" over the years. In good natured attempts HUNDREDS IF NOT THOUSANDS of years ago God attempted to put reins on our savage nature. Some of these traditions survived and this is good. Outside of this 3D the idea of an Absolute Unbounded Oneness is more visible as one is not so dense in matter form and relates to energy as a form but not necessarily heavy duty matter (just a collection of very intelligent energy forms that can organize themselves). Our higher self IS connected; and pleads with you to listen. Some call this "KA" (your higher inner voice). I haven't heard that we are simulations YET. If so it already failed because in 2000 years since "Christ Consciousness" was introduced to this paradigm nothing much has changed except a more diabolical effort to harpoon ourselves (why can we not just get along). One can certainly dream things into existence; its part of your ability as a DEMI-GOD to do so; you are a creator being (most do not know this because they have been programed to live in fear) and not exercise this ability. You would think by now we could have manifested something through combined good will seeking our creator. I have come to the opinion that we are God particles and it doesn't need any more expression than ourselves as its own evidence of an existence.

originally posted by: TheNewRevolution
The reason we don't manifest God into existence is because we don't have to.
IT is already there. All around. The "faith" that is required is just lacking for so many that they fail to ever see it.

We are not Godless and we are not in a virtual world. Doubt is just so much easier to achieve wholeheartedly than faith will ever be.

One can observe the miracles of ecosystems, planets aligning and the ridiculous machinations of DNA and cellular speak (an entire universe exists and describes itself as YOUR body and its functions). True enlightenment does not come from any dogmatic belief system; it comes from a desire within you to know your creator/your reason for being. Having faith in something is a good thing; not mandatory. You do not know if this is a virtual world; I know it is an experiment and what would be the difference? Good questions TNR.

a reply to: vethumanbeing

Maybe because the thought of God or multiples or none existing to some? Don't have a real good answer for you. Assuming God manifest would anyone ever really know to the point of proof considering all the variations of the expected manifestation? Basically unless everyone agreed on said manifestation would there ever be proof acceptable to all. Just a thought

I still think our concept of God is all wrong and based on ancient myths...starting with Norse, Greek, Roman and on and one. It's always the all powerful God that may or may not listen to your prayers and answer them...sometimes this God was nice and sometimes down right mean and petty.

I think reality is more something that we don't even understand and that the ancient eastern philosophies of the Tao and ancient India maybe come closest but still miss the mark.

We can't manifest God because we have know idea what or who she is, Yet this God is always there and we can connect with her whenever we want if we chose to and we will connect with her when we die and we can chose to stay in that connection or reincarnate back hear to earth or perhaps a different plane and different universe.

originally posted by: Reallyfolks
a reply to: vethumanbeing

Maybe because the thought of God or multiples or none existing to some? Don't have a real good answer for you. Assuming God manifest would anyone ever really know to the point of proof considering all the variations of the expected manifestation? Basically unless everyone agreed on said manifestation would there ever be proof acceptable to all. Just a thought

That's the problem; no one is on the same page regarding what or who God is; so how to group think FORCE God to pop into material existence is....possible? No one has tried it deliberately (sans the Philadelphia Experiment accidental that displaced matter) and put physical beings in places they should not have been naturally. Maybe that is the problem, God is information only; 1s and 0s and relies upon us to express itself. What would happen if all of us insisted upon IT'S incarnation (never been done before and why not) made a reasonable demand; show yourself finally rather than expressing yourself through your creations.

a reply to: vethumanbeing
If we are 'fractured God', trying-hoping-wanting to manifest "God"...what are we looking for?
Are we looking to "create" (since that is what God does) a BIGGER God, to take the responsibility for this festering, seething mess...off our hands?

Thanks for the thread, topic and discussion.

originally posted by: vethumanbeing
Why have we failed in manifesting God? If we are 7 billion soul strong attributes of "GOD" and most are of the belief of a higher existing creator God; with these vast numbers cannot Imagine (dream) a God into existence? WHY?

This is like a wave saying - why have we failed in manifesting the ocean?

A wise wave says to a wave that is searching for the ocean "You are searching for this great ocean but you are the ocean itself! How funny that you do not realize this."
"How can I be?" said the wave. "I don't see any ocean, all I see is waves, waves and more waves!".
"That is because you think you are just a wave," the wise wave smiled.
The little wave became frustrated and said "I don't understand what you are saying - can you show me the ocean? Yes or no?"
"I will but before I do would you mind just massaging my aching feet?"
The little wave dived down and disappeared as a wave. At that moment the little wave discovered that the ocean was not different from itself - being just a wave was just a dream.
This is quoted (slightly shortened version) from the book 'Before I am' by Mooji.

a reply to: vethumanbeing

Life is technology and the design of the human hand allows us to shape, model, develop or replicate all species on Earth in clay. Our brains let us develop computers to mimic the brain, while boosting capacity and accuracy, so that we can scan these clay models and find its closest kins already walking and talking, and build a suitable genome, and then press fire and the machine would shoot out a fertilised egg for the given life form into a proper incubator. It's as simple as the first few chapters of Genesis tells us. We're technology.

originally posted by: vethumanbeing
Maybe that is the problem, God is information only...

Behold, your problem:

originally posted by: vethumanbeing
What would happen if all of us insisted upon IT'S incarnation (never been done before and why not)

FYI, the very thing you are asking for has already taken place...

originally posted by: WanDash
a reply to: vethumanbeing
If we are 'fractured God', trying-hoping-wanting to manifest "God"...what are we looking for?
Are we looking to "create" (since that is what God does) a BIGGER God, to take the responsibility for this festering, seething mess...off our hands?
Thanks for the thread, topic and discussion.

We seem to be God Particles "gone off the rails" (fractured/damaged through forces it did not anticipate KARMA would be a big mistake that is here and exists). I like the idea of creating a larger bigger smarter God and hold its feet to the flames of the suffering some have to endure. I know that IT does have empathy but BY OUR PROXY only. I would like some responsibility for this to be acknowledged and FIXED. You are a gift WanDash.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
originally posted by: veteranhumanbeing

vhb: Why have we failed in manifesting God? If we are 7 billion soul strong attributes of "GOD" and most are of the belief of a higher existing creator God; with these vast numbers cannot Imagine (dream) a God into existence? WHY?

Itisnowagain: This is like a wave saying - why have we failed in manifesting the ocean?

The wave is a product of that body of water and is questioning its own existence/reason for being (what is my purpose).

Itisnowagain:
A wise wave says to a wave that is searching for the ocean "You are searching for this great ocean but you are the ocean itself! How funny that you do not realize this.
"How can I be?" said the wave. "I don't see any ocean, all I see is waves, waves and more waves!".

Like the human; compartmentalized into thinking belief systems are valid. Tell the drop of water before it becomes a wave form it is part of a larger thing (the idea of a wave) it doesn't have the perspective to observe itself within a larger system (UNFAIR).

Itisnowagain: "That is because you think you are just a wave," the wise wave smiled.
The little wave became frustrated and said "I don't understand what you are saying - can you show me the ocean? Yes or no?"
"I will but before I do would you mind just massaging my aching feet?"
The little wave dived down and disappeared as a wave. At that moment the little wave discovered that the ocean was not different from itself - being just a wave was just a dream.

One can 'think ones way' into any creation it wants as imagination is crucial to creation and unique to the human's ability. You exposed a faster way; just dream yourself into validity (if you are of pure intent) and will succeed. Always fun Itsnowagain.

originally posted by: Murgatroid

originally posted by: vethumanbeing
Maybe that is the problem, God is information only...

Behold, your problem:

originally posted by: vethumanbeing
What would happen if all of us insisted upon IT'S incarnation (never been done before and why not)

FYI, the very thing you are asking for has already taken place...

"Apocolypto" was just a punctuation mark?

originally posted by: amazing
I still think our concept of God is all wrong and based on ancient myths...starting with Norse, Greek, Roman and on and one. It's always the all powerful God that may or may not listen to your prayers and answer them...sometimes this God was nice and sometimes down right mean and petty.

I think reality is more something that we don't even understand and that the ancient eastern philosophies of the Tao and ancient India maybe come closest but still miss the mark.

We can't manifest God because we have know idea what or who she is, Yet this God is always there and we can connect with her whenever we want if we chose to and we will connect with her when we die and we can chose to stay in that connection or reincarnate back hear to earth or perhaps a different plane and different universe.

I think we can manifest it. No one has dared demand/arrest/confine it and get IT onto a docket. Force IT to reveal itself. What is God afraid of? I have many questions as to It's intentions and as a parent would like to question its failures to protect its own progeny. We are God manifested; but have no proof we are so. This is the insanity humans have to live with.

originally posted by: Utnapisjtim
a reply to: vethumanbeing

Life is technology and the design of the human hand allows us to shape, model, develop or replicate all species on Earth in clay. Our brains let us develop computers to mimic the brain, while boosting capacity and accuracy, so that we can scan these clay models and find its closest kins already walking and talking, and build a suitable genome, and then press fire and the machine would shoot out a fertilised egg for the given life form into a proper incubator. It's as simple as the first few chapters of Genesis tells us. We're technology.

Tell me more.

originally posted by: vethumanbeing

originally posted by: Utnapisjtim
a reply to: vethumanbeing

Life is technology and the design of the human hand allows us to shape, model, develop or replicate all species on Earth in clay. Our brains let us develop computers to mimic the brain, while boosting capacity and accuracy, so that we can scan these clay models and find its closest kins already walking and talking, and build a suitable genome, and then press fire and the machine would shoot out a fertilised egg for the given life form into a proper incubator. It's as simple as the first few chapters of Genesis tells us. We're technology.

Tell me more.

:> Load monkey frame + adjust arms length + add tongue bone *check
:> Import pig engine + adjust for fast food tolerance *check
:> Import dolphin fatty tissue + include brain *check
:> Add smelly feet + god hands + pretty face + add syntax error in free will gene *check
:> Print human *check
:> Printing human. Please choose hair colour and skin complexion. Else a random generator will assist....

Then it's just to wait until Adam II takes on world domination.