If rounding of citizens starts, I found which group of boys will do it

originally posted by: queenofswords
If "they" start rounding up American citizens, it will probably be by the "army" of middle eastern Islamic immigrants Obama has allowed into this country in the last few years. Research the numbers. You will be amazed. He could very well deputize them into his Ready Reserve Corps which he set up under ACA.

We are getting ready to bring in more Syrian refugees in addition to the 1000 we have already brought in since 2014. 94% of them are muslim. Since 2014, we have brought in over 15,000 Somalis, 99.7% muslims. We have a special Afghan visas that are included in the NDAA. Among all those people, I wonder how many of them have already been trained? Think about it.

Does that fact mean they are radicalized? Not necessarily, but we know from experience that they can be radicalized practically overnight....look at the Chattanooga killer. I don't know how overnight radicalization is done, but it is.

Personally I think it will be a combination of U.S. troops and U.N. troops. I say this because every country has its useful idiots but not everyone will be one so they would have to supplement that loss with folks from another country who don't mind subjugating someone from somewhere else.

Without talking too much about my time in the Service, I will say that "IF" the speculation that started this thread is correct then doesn't it make more sense to have all of these people tracked and placed into a singular unit?

Look at it from another angle:
1 These units have a responsibility of small unit growth. This means that in many cases it's not just go shoot repeat, but rather also train local (often times non-military) people in to conducting military operations.

2 Thes.... Hold it right there! If a major military action was ordered by an American Official against the American Populace, then these are exactly the kind of guys that would train local citizens to combat that action. I would think that "IF" an order came down that threatened the American way of life, and "IF" a military type of group was being used to implement that order, then these guys would be the first to be targeted by that military type of group. JSOC would be a threat to any authority that tries over throw the American way of life by military force. These guys are tasked with unit building and training the local populace to fight that kind of military opposition.


Now for a personal thought:

If I was going to create fear-porn I would focus on some of the lesser know military for higher groups that operate in the USA. These groups have no accountability to any one other then their employer. Go talk to anyone that worked for "Executive Decision" during the Ivory Coast mess, or anyone that questioned the "other guys out there" and were fired on the spot in a hot zone. JSOC isn't the boogie man, it's these lesser known military for higher groups that are.

Obama's youth brigade at Arizona State?

a reply to: Guyfriday

that's an interesting bunch o' hints...

Care to elaborate on these units? You've peaked my curiosity.

a reply to: seagull

The private military groups? Geesh? They come and go all the time (though are usually ran by the same people, that just change their names between jobs) They're hard to track down what they are currently called (I know that sounds like a copout, but as soon as everyone was looking at Kellog and Blackwater a lot of the smaller companies started doing name changes, temp business licensing, and temp contracts) It became so hard in fact that I stopped wasting time on them, and instead started figuring out how to stay out of their viewfinders. My advice on these groups is that if you're getting out of the service and they ask if you need a job, go work at McDonalds instead. It's safer.

Sorry if someone already brought it up but I didn't have time to read the whole thread. If your really interested in this topic the documentary Dirty Wars is a good watch. Done by the same guy who wrote Blackwater the rise of the mercenary army

a reply to: LostAndFound2
I couldn't take the tone of that Dork's Commentary, almost made it to the 2 minute mark.

Why does everyone have to be so damn Polarizing!

a reply to: notmyrealname

I can not presently find were I read it but it was not DNI (Dept of Naval Intelligence) even though North was a Marine. Your post reminded me that Bush started a group call OSP ( office of special projects/policy???) or such out of the vice-President's office. This is where North ran his "Enterprise". I think it was the book "Compromised".

a reply to: fshrrex
DNI is the Director of National Intelligence (what it is called now) Prior to that the position was called the DCI Director of Central Intelligence (look into Bill Casey). The department you are referring to in your last post is the ONI Office of Naval Intelligence.

a reply to: notmyrealname

I got lost in alphbet soup!

a reply to: fshrrex
These days it is not hard to do at all; it is almost a complete language now that is compartmentalized and complete gibberish to the uninitiated. The higher up you go and the more political the whole thing gets.

To stick with the thread, I personally think the chances of JSOc doing anything towards any groups within the USA is next to zero. I have read the, IMO, mal-informed speculations about the various teams in JSOC and will tell you that the training is far more than being a "killing machine" as a matter of fact that is an insult. Far greater training is required to know when not to kill and still accomplish the mission objective. Some of the members in this thread should be extremely grateful to have such a disciplined and intelligent group available to protect them if the # really did hit the fan.

a reply to: notmyrealname

I don't have a problem with them as long as their skill set is applied outside the U.S.

JSOC is one of my bigest customers [tactical nylon]. I find it best, to keep the mouth shut and ears peeled. They are not much different than us, when they put on their 'everyday' clothes. And, many have internal dilemmas with the current course. That said, I do not have a warm fuzzy on what would transpire if the 'red' list was exacted for termination; as I am sure I am on it.

I truly believe the military as whole would have no problem "just doing their job" and culling the herd. There's always the old timers who say no way but seriously right now we have drones flying over our heads, our emails are being read, my income is taxed just shy of 50% only for everything I buy with the rest to be taxed, I can be stopped and frisked for waking down the street, congressperson makes millions while in office or shortIy thereafter, I'm forbidden from carrying a gun in many areas, etc; and the military who's "on our side" does nothing. They have become yes men and the proof is in the pudding. If you disagree please start by telling me we don't have a tyrannical government.

The military of today are either in for the job (includes people who think having military is badass) or too stupid to realize what they're fighting for.

a reply to: Milomo

Most of the folks I know in the military, including some people who have significant experience with SOCOM are the last people we have to worry about. It is the contractors and the private military organizations being used by various people in intel agencies that would be more concerning.

I know at least 2 people that came from top tier military units that are now members of the militia in two different states. (No they are not yahoos, they have DD214s that reference their unit in the navy and army, as well as tattoos that if you weren't in the community you'd get your ass beat).

Just saying - the folks posting that guys like JSOC would be the first on any "cull list" are right. They would be the ones reaching out to and training up local militias to uphold the Constitution...

a reply to: Punisher75

NOW you see why I am at war with those who WOULD CHANGE what it means ,THE PC crowd spacifically.
AT THIS TIME however the oath and flag are the symbol of the warriors here,NOT The District of Columbia Inc.

a reply to: SonOfThor

So why aren't they upholding their oath now? The only legitimate answer is they and you believe our government is upholding their end; otherwise you've already been proved wrong. Everyone talks # and can get tattoo. You can tell the nature of a tree by the fruit bears.

Maybe culling the herd is too elemental, but to me being taxed more than half my money to for them to waste and get rich, having no privacy, etc is just the same. The revolution was fought over 15% taxation.

a reply to: Milomo

What do you want to happen a disorganized mutiny?

If there is no unifying movement any mutiny or revolt will fail..It would only get people dead and guarantee a tyrannical govt.

Right now the average civilian couldn't find their own butt with a map a GPS and 2 extra set of hands.

Without civilian backing anything the military does or vets do would be a waste...

Also while I am not happy with my govt right now tyrannical they ain't... Check Syria /nw Iraq for a good example of tyranny.

a reply to: Irishhaf

About a third of people supported our revolution, less actively; which as I mentioned was fought over 15% taxation. I also do not look to Iraq as a litmus for my opinions. I do believe that people who have taken an oath and are paid to uphold the constitution should do so.

a reply to: Milomo

This might be the first time in my life I've seen someone say they want a military coup...Those rarely work now a days if the people aren't behind them...

Go organize people to push for changes in the tax code if it upsets you that much...

Taxes in America are fairly light compared to some places I've lived or looked into living.