The lost dutchman mines

I've hiked up the Superstitions several times (mostly during the mid-late 80's) and never found anything except the wreckage of a T-38.

Go to the mountain and certainly enjoy your hike. But don't expect anything but disappointment if your sole purpose is to find the Lost Dutchman Mine--because you won't.

Happy Hiking!

Hello,
I have been gone a while and have done some more research on the mines First Id like to thank everyone for the comments on this subject even though there has been some ridicule you still have to take some punches when dealing with people from all walks of life. Anyway I had a really good vacation and saw some really cool things. I didnt go to the superstitions yet but was offered a job in tucson and I might just take it so I can continue research. I did however find some really interesting caves in my travels and found some really interesting markings. I might just have found an old civil war stash but will return when the weather is better and do some more investigating. I did however find a really nice rattlesnake den and beleive me talk about pucker factor. anyway keep up the comments and posts and Ill be back with more info as I come accross it. And again thanks for posting on this forum and any info is helpfull.

In cartoons they will find the mine at llast and then there will be a big shootout about the loot....

Welcome back to your post firedoc2368. Funny thing you should mention the rattlesnakes as they are pit vipers. They have a gland in their head which senses heat. Because they are cold blooded, the gland helps them find heat with which to warm themselves. This gets really interesting when you consider that buried gold is a heat sink. It will absorb the heat during the day and radiate it back at night. ( if it is close enough to the surface) I like to think of rattlers as treasure detectors and will head straight for rattlesnakes instead of running away from them. If you always carry a walking stick you can scoot them out of the way and investigate their surroundings for signs of treasure , or ore. Please do not kill the snakes, they are what keeps the rodents under control.

Firedoc, welcome back. If you're interested in the Civil War, then you ought to go up I-10 about halfway between Tucson and Casa Grande to check out the Picacho Peak ar4ea, the site of the western-most battle of the Cvil War.

Groingrinder, what a great photo! Here's about the same place during a much drier winter morning:

Hello All,

I have heard that the lost dutchmen mine was a cover for a Knights of the Golden Circle Treasure Depository and that Jacob Waltz was working for them as a guardien ofa very rich KGC treasure site and the gold he found was his share for guarding the treasure site and did not come from lost mine.Belive it or not?

Jackson
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i lived in mesa for 2 years and this became an obsession of mine.. to assume goldfield or the bulldog mine is one in the same as the "lost Dutchman" isn't true. no ore recovered from either of those sites remotely resemble ore that Jacob Waltz had at his time of death. supposedly it was in a rose quartz matrix, and rose quartz is pretty rare in nature. as far as i know there are only 2 places in the world where it has been mined and neither are in Arizona. this leads a lot of people to think he found a hidden cache from someone before him or he high-graded ore from mines he worked at before and stashed the high-graded ore to retrieve at his will, however, i don't know of anywhere where its been documented gold ore in a rose quartz matrix. All of this accompanied with a few other stories of people who ran across it accidentally, i believe there is at least 2 or 3 different stories where people follow a wounded animal and stumble across it. Even the Apaches have disclosed that there is a secret cave in the superstitions with a large rose and white quartz/gold loaded veins. supposedly at one time in the distant past the area was pretty heavily mined with chimney shafts, i think they were Spanish in origin, but when the Apaches found out that one of their most sacred places (an area where celebrated chiefs and warriors were burried too) was being disturbed, they expelled the foreigners and concealed the area. According to Edgar Cayce the area has been rearranged and disguised a number of times throughout history by a couple different groups of people. His reading on this particular subject seem exceptionally vague, as if something was unconsciously blocking his communication to keep the area secret. Its also been stated that Edgar had trouble doing readings that involved people becoming wealthy at the expense of others.

to conclude, if anyone every goes out to the superstitions, go in a group, fully armed, with way more food and water than you think you'll need. To tell the honest truth i personally believe i could put myself within 300 ft of the cave, however i believe that the Apaches still watch the area but in a more limited capacity and i've also heard of them stocking the area with rattlesnakes with the rattle cut off.. I would love to go out to the spot but i'd only go with a decent size group of very close friends who are all well armed and capable marksmen. and like all other dutchies i'd love to hear where you all think it is, while i give a false description of where i think it is..lol