The New Manhattan Project – Chemtrails Exposed

originally posted by: soulpowertothendegree

Tanker enemy is considered a hoaxer by ATS - see www.abovetopsecret.com...

originally posted by: Char-Lee

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: reldra

It's called denying ignorance hun. If I were to let ignorance prosper than people would go around thinking there was some legitimacy to these claims when it is all just hearsay and false allegations originating from shady websites. Case in point, the websites the OP links aren't exactly trustworthy.

Plus it's a free forum. I can post a response in any thread I want to post a response in. You nor the OP has the right to bar me from a thread no matter how upsetting it may make you to see someone be dismissive about your pet conspiracy.

I never suggested you leave the thread. If chemtrails did not exist and it is set in stone, it wouldn't have it's own forum. I enjoy this topic. Perhaps I should make a thread on it daily.

Is your reasoning really that we have a forum so it must be true?

Do you believe contrails can persist in the right conditions?

The suggestion is the Forum exists, so just like Religion and many other Forum topics let people discuss the SUBJECT without DERISION, and constant NAME CALLING>>>deny ignorance? Deny ignorance= Bullying? That is a childish way of responding intelligently to ANY topic.

Hello sweetie, Did you notice the answer to my questions? BTW, they were not asked of you. I am glad to hear that Bigfoot and Nessie are now considered real. (based on the fact that we have a cryptozoology forum and all)

And I am not a big time user of the deny ignorance thing. Maybe you can point out where I used that term to hurt feelings.
I prefer to use the posters own words to remind them of their ideas. Like when someone claims to be "a big fan of common sense" then displays little of it. But thanks for being you!

originally posted by: soulpowertothendegree

Yep. No such thing as chemtrails....just a figment of normal everyday imagination...you are all right....and I am ashamed to say....I was so incredibly stupid for thinking that they could possibly exist. Shame on me! What a moron I am. Yep, there is absolutely no reason for anyone to ever believe this is possible at all.

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Thing is, the video doesn't show anything out of the ordinary at all. Well, the fuel dump is a response to an emergency situation, but the normal response all the same.

Why do you think you are looking at chemtrails? What is it about them?

originally posted by: soulpowertothendegree

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And yet here we go again, I do not have a clue what I was thinking, silly me!

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originally posted by: soulpowertothendegree
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For those of you that do not think these "CHEMTRAILS" exist and that they are being used for weather modification...I really do not get how so many people can stick their heads in the sand and ignore it.

Well, firstly I am an amateur meteorologist (and am friends with quite a few professionals - and in the UK that means trained scientists, not TV presenters) and secondly I am well aware of the weather/climate impact of aircraft contrails (as indeed scientists have been for several decades now, even if it is not "common knowledge")

For example: Global radiative forcing from contrail cirrus - Burkhardt & Kärcher 2010

But nothing I say will stop people flying ....

originally posted by: Aloysius the Gaul

originally posted by: Char-Lee

We have phenomena of all kinds, holes in the atmosphere, weather changes, electrical buildup in the high altitudes there are so many things going on in our world and I am pretty sure the public is not aware of all of the facts concerning them.

there's a whole heap of atmospheric phenomena no-one understands, let alone the public - eg upper atmospheric lightning

Ahh Yes I think that is what I said.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: Char-Lee

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: reldra

It's called denying ignorance hun. If I were to let ignorance prosper than people would go around thinking there was some legitimacy to these claims when it is all just hearsay and false allegations originating from shady websites. Case in point, the websites the OP links aren't exactly trustworthy.

Plus it's a free forum. I can post a response in any thread I want to post a response in. You nor the OP has the right to bar me from a thread no matter how upsetting it may make you to see someone be dismissive about your pet conspiracy.

I never suggested you leave the thread. If chemtrails did not exist and it is set in stone, it wouldn't have it's own forum. I enjoy this topic. Perhaps I should make a thread on it daily.

Is your reasoning really that we have a forum so it must be true?

Do you believe contrails can persist in the right conditions?

The suggestion is the Forum exists, so just like Religion and many other Forum topics let people discuss the SUBJECT without DERISION, and constant NAME CALLING>>>deny ignorance? Deny ignorance= Bullying? That is a childish way of responding intelligently to ANY topic.

Hello sweetie, Did you notice the answer to my questions? BTW, they were not asked of you. I am glad to hear that Bigfoot and Nessie are now considered real. (based on the fact that we have a cryptozoology forum and all)

And I am not a big time user of the deny ignorance thing. Maybe you can point out where I used that term to hurt feelings.
I prefer to use the posters own words to remind them of their ideas. Like when someone claims to be "a big fan of common sense" then displays little of it. But thanks for being you!

Hey there SWeetie Pie, I think we can say things to people on this forum that were not addressed to us? Am i wrong?

Reading skills a must, I said the forum is here for discussing the subject not insulting each other, what does that have to do with said subjects being proven or not?

My response was for all the gang in your corner not just you.

Tanks for being YOU also LOL you are a real funny one.

originally posted by: Char-Lee

My response was for all the gang in your corner not just you.

Tanks for being YOU also LOL you are a real funny one.

Sorry sweet pea. I guess I was thrown off by the "reply to network dude" at the top of the post. My bad.
But have a super weekend.

a reply to: soulpowertothendegree

And yet here we go again, I do not have a clue what I was thinking, silly me!

Obviously if you post a Tankeenemy video as proof of chemtrails existing.

Silly you.

a reply to: soulpowertothendegree

I tell you what...maybe you should take some time and read through this thread as it will give you some insight into what you think are chemtrails...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

It was started by one of our esteemed weather professionals...enjoy...learn, but most of all ...Learn.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: Char-Lee

My response was for all the gang in your corner not just you.

Tanks for being YOU also LOL you are a real funny one.

Sorry sweet pea. I guess I was thrown off by the "reply to network dude" at the top of the post. My bad.
But have a super weekend.

NP Sweet Pea feels a little unusual to a 59.5 year old Woman but I'll take it Lol!

a reply to: tsurfer2000h

Sure because scientist and weather people are always right! Perhaps you should get your head out the clouds and pay attention to what you think are just natural phenomena and learn to change your mind.

a reply to: AndyMayhew

Tell me why these chemtrails only show up sometime and not all the time? If they were always natural and occur regularly because of atmospheric conditions and all planes do it "accidentally", how come they just show up out of nowhere, one minute there is a blue sky and the next a plane comes along and viola there is this crazy trail of white stuff just hanging out. Why don't the trails continue endlessly? Are you going to tell me that is just natural behavior from the exhaust? No. Anyone that believes they are not capable of modifying the weather and the data that supports it are sadly mistaken.

originally posted by: soulpowertothendegree
a reply to: AndyMayhew

Tell me why these chemtrails only show up sometime and not all the time? If they were always natural and occur regularly because of atmospheric conditions and all planes do it "accidentally", how come they just show up out of nowhere, one minute there is a blue sky and the next a plane comes along and viola there is this crazy trail of white stuff just hanging out. Why don't the trails continue endlessly?

why would they??

atmospheric conditions often support a partly cloudy day because there are different patches of temperature and humidity in the sky.

contrails form faster than clouds because the sudden injection of nucleation particles is sudden - that is the only difference.

The Manhattan Project was possibly the biggest engineering project of the 20th Century.

To compare the theory of chemtrails to the Manhattan Project is ridiculous.

originally posted by: reldra
When I see a lot of chemtrail activity, I see the same 2-3 planes criss crossing the sky all day, maybe a 10-15 sq mi area, covering most of what was a blue sky with chemtrails.

Please tell us the callsigns, owners of the planes and types of planes that did that. You did check, didn't you?

why aluminum, barium and strontium in that order?

originally posted by: Sovan
why aluminum, barium and strontium in that order?

They're sort of in that order naturally...if you look at the percentage in dirt, you get aluminum first at about 8.1%, then barium and strontium neck and neck at about 0.035%.

So wind-borne dust is going to have aluminum, barium and strontium, and it's so close in percentage for the last two it's down to testing error as to which order you get.

originally posted by: soulpowertothendegree
...and viola there is this crazy trail of white stuff just hanging out. Why don't the trails continue endlessly?

Why don't clouds continue endlessly? One formed...so obviously conditions are right. Why did the sky not instantly turn to one uniform cloud?

a reply to: Bedlam

I wonder why there was no test for iron or silicon.