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originally posted by: kaylaluv
I understand them not wanting to be the ones who provide the contraception, but refusing to allow anyone else to provide it? Less contraception just means more abortions will happen.
originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
So... They're complaining about having to provide contraception, when they didn't file for an exception?
Okay. I guess filling out a form is against their religion?
I'm sure they didn't have any problem filling out that 501(c) tax exempt form. Why the sudden issue with this exception form?
originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: beezzer
your little bunny ears are crooked today, are you feeling okay?
no, a government shouldn't be telling the religion how to practice their faith, a mixture of the traditions and the people within that religion does that. but it does protect me, if I chose to have another faith that isn't as popular to practice mine as I see fit, as long as I am not infringing on the rights of others in the society.
originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
a reply to: beezzer
That's the thing. Rules changed in government, so if they want an exception (just like their 501(c) exception), they need to file for it. It's very simple, actually. Nobody is telling them how to do things. In fact, they do things the way they always have. Nobody is trying to step on their rights. In fact, they've taken steps to ENSURE those rights remain intact by allowing for exceptions such as this.
I really don't see the issue. Fill out the damn form, get the damn exception.
This is an organization using this as platform to cry persecution when it doesn't exist.
you do realize that it is the PEOPLE of the united states that the constitution protects right, not the established churches, not the religious business owners... but the PEOPLE!!! so well, unless there is a way for the employees of that gov't to refuse the coverage, the ammendment isn't being protected anyways.... just the right of the businesses and religious organizations to manipulate their employees into living under their belief system. which, by the way, is contrary to that ammendment also since each person should be free to form their own belief system
originally posted by: kaylaluv
I understand them not wanting to be the ones who provide the contraception, but refusing to allow anyone else to provide it? Less contraception just means more abortions will happen.
originally posted by: beezzer
Religions have to obey government.
Submission to the Authorities
1 Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.
2 Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.
originally posted by: buddha
So we have freedom of religion.
But not freedom of religion?
So next Muslims will have to sell bacon and acolhol.
Do the nuns have to give abortions next?