So, what are you going to do?

So, what are you going to do?

You cannot avoid it any longer. You cannot pretend it did not happen. You cannot wish it away. It's real.

The President of the United States lied to start a war.

Under our system of laws, only Congress has the authority to send our troops off to war. The 30 days granted to the President under the War Powers Act were long exhausted from the ongoing bombing raids in Iraq when Congress did pass a bill authorizing military intervention in Iraq shortly after 9-11. However, that bill authorized military force only under certain conditions. One of those conditions was that President Bush had to prove that Saddam Hussein was in violation of UN Resolution 1441 calling for the removal of all weapons of mass destruction.

So, prior to launching the invasion of Iraq, Bush stated to the Congress and to the world that he did have proof that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. Not only did Bush make that claim, but so did Colin Powell. So did Tony Blair. And citing the authority previously granted to him by the Congress, Bush waged war on Iraq. And Iraq fell. Easily.

Too easily.

Unlike Desert Storm 1, there was no sky filled with fireworks-bright anti-aircraft fire to oppose the bombers over Baghdad. Iraq turned out not only to not be a threat to anyone else, it turned out not to be able to mount a serious defense against invasion.

Contrary to the assurances of Bush and Blair, there were no chemical or biological weapons used to defend Iraq even as it gasped its last breath as an independent sovereign nation. The only nuclear weapons used were the depleted uranium weapons showered all over Iraq by the invaders. Just as no weapons of mass destruction were found by the United Nations prior to the invasion, and no weapons of mass destruction were deployed during the invasion, no weapons of mass destruction have been discovered since the invasion. Every site claimed to harbor weapons of mass destruction turned out upon closer inspection to be harmless. Every piece of equipment loudly ballyhooed each morning as proof of Saddam's perfidy was inevitably proven benign by nightfall. Even the trailers, proclaimed to be mobile biological weapons labs (even though devoid of both germs, and the special handling equipment needed for such work) turned out to be industrial tools. No weapons of mass destruction. No remains of weapons of mass destruction. Nothing. Saddam was not in defiance of UN Resolution 1441. Even the UN weapons team agrees on this. And if Iraq was not in defiance of UN Resolution 1441, then the Congressional authorization for military action in Iraq was not in effect. Bush did not have legal authority to invade. Bush misappropriated the US military, without congressional approval, for an illegal war. A criminal war.

I imagine that all those poor fools who stood besides Bush have to be feeling pretty stupid right now. Bush used them, just like Stalin used his "useful idiots", to serve his personal agenda. Fools and cowards; that is how history will remember those who fell for Bush's lies.

Of course, Bush had help with the lie. Cheney helped pressure the CIA to go along with the lie. Colin Powell spoke the lie to the United Nations, backed up by a 12 year-old stolen student thesis and outdated photographs, punctuated for drama with a glass vial of (we hope) talcum powder. Blair helped the lie. Clear Channel not only helped with the lie, it paid for the parties for the above-mentioned useful idiots. O'Reilly helped the lie. So did Rush. So did Savage. So did a lot of other people. You know who you are.

The people of the United States were lied to in order to start a war. It doesn't matter what may be found or planted in Iraq from now on, the unquestionable fact is that at the time that Bush and Blair claimed to have proof of Iraq's WMDs, they did not. They had stolen student papers, outdated photos, talcum powder, and a lot of wishful thinking. They lied. Nothing can change that. Not only did they lie, but they did so intentionally and with premeditation. Cheney pressured the CIA to alter their report to support the claim of WMDs. Blair sent British Intelligence's report back for revisions at least once and possibly as many as six times.

So, what are you going to do?

Are you going to live in a nation governed by lies? Will you spend the rest of your life knowing your mind is being controlled by those who control what you know, who lie, conceal, spin, twist, and disinform so that you will come to the conclusions the liars want you to come to? Mind control isn't some science fiction machine, it is simply controlling the brain by controlling what it knows or believes. By lying.

Is a war necessary? How can you know that it is if you live under a government that lies?

Is the death of a politician really a suicide, or a "lone assassin"? How can you know that it is if you live under a government that lies?

Is the amendment that authorizes the income tax properly ratified? How can you know that it is if you live under a government that lies?

Are elections fair and honest? How can you know that they are if you live under a government that lies?

Are living conditions really better here than anywhere else on Earth? How can you know that they are if you live under a government that lies?

Were Arabs really behind 9-11? How can you know that they were if you live under a government that lies?

And you do. You do live under a government that lies to you. Bush just proved it.

So, what are you going to do?

We stand at a crossroads. The head-of-state of the most powerful nation on Earth has been caught justifying a war of conquest with fraud and deception. We, as the people of that nation, have a moral duty to remove that head-of-state, and indeed all who helped in that lie. We have a duty to leave a better government to our children than that which was left to us, and the very first thing we must do is remove government officials who would lie to us, and to our children, especially to send them off to die in wars.

The Constitution of the United States does not explicitly authorize the government to lie to the people. Check it yourself; it is not in there. And the Tenth Amendment prohibits the government from assuming that authority. Therefore, under the Constitution, every politician who lies acts unconstitutionally and illegally. When the lie becomes institutional, when the government leadership as a whole lies to the people, then the government itself is unconstitutional and illegal. A government that lies to the people breaks faith with the people. A government that lies to the people loses the moral right to rule.

Therefore, the Congress also stands at a crossroad. It cannot legitimize the lies of Bush without delegitimizing itself. Congress cannot pretend to trust a lying President and keep the trust of the voters and taxpayers. Congress cannot acquit the liars without incriminating themselves. But Congress are habitual liars themselves and often admire the skill with which other officials can lie to the people and be believed. They will need "encouragement" to do the right thing.

I know that you are all discouraged because the war in Iraq happened despite the huge peace demonstrations you all put together. But you need to take a deep breath and get ready to rock again. Those demonstrations you all did laid the foundation for what must be done now. Those demonstrations showed the rest of America and the world that there has always been doubt of the legitimacy of this war. No longer can the mainstream media pretend that opposition to the war and to Bush's lies comes from only a tiny minority, too small to matter. And the recent election results in other countries that saw pro-war candidates soundly defeated have sent a message to Capitol Hill that being pro-war is a serious liability going into 2004's election season. Vote-rigging can change a slim percentage but it cannot reverse a landslide.

So here is the call to phone, to keyboards, to FAX, and yes, to protest signs. Next week are the start of hearings into the lies about Iraqi WMDs. YOU need to let your congressmen know in no uncertain terms that they either get rid of the liars, or get a new job. Focus on the congressmen up for re-election in 2004 and let them know that how they deal with the liar in the White House will be the sole deciding factor in whether you will vote for them next election. Remind them of the pronounced anti-war trend sweeping elections world-wide.

Rest assured that the warhawks have their phone banks running full tilt boogie to try and get Dubya off of the hook. If you do not phone, FAX, or visit, Congress will abrogate its duty and write the liars who lied to start a war a get-out-of-jail free card.

It's up to you. History will judge our nation on what actions you take or do not take in the coming week.

Congressional contact info is at www.congress.org.

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Well, I certainly expected more of a discussion than this. Oh well...

What are we gonna do john? The same thing weve always done. Sit on our fat asses in front of the boob tube and fill our brains with sugar and candy and in about a year, forget it ever happened, or not even care.

Because we are cattle.

Most of the time, I think does it really matter. I think it's just funny the worse it gets, maybe something good will come of it. Hooray for entropy!

Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
What are we gonna do john? The same thing weve always done. Sit on our fat asses in front of the boob tube and fill our brains with sugar and candy and in about a year, forget it ever happened, or not even care.

Because we are cattle.

Well, if I don't see something that gives me the warm and fuzzies really soon I'm going to give the prez and all the other politicians on my emailing list the electronic pranging of a lifetime.

After that, I'm gonna sit on my lazy arse and watch the boob tube. Moo. Pass the grain. More grass, please. Moo.

So John what should we do about it I know for sure I don't have a voice, and alot of people are supressed.
I don't think Bush will care about the publics opinion only the filthy riches opinion matters to him.
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TC: "After that, I'm gonna sit on my lazy arse and watch the boob tube. Moo. Pass the grain. More grass, please. Moo."


Now thats funny!! LOL dude!!

Moo!! Anybody seen the stupid remote?

Thomas, 99% of the american public is going to just sit there and chew thier cud. you might do something. but our fellow americasn will do what they did when military targets were getting bombed in the 90's, when war was in the balkans, when the military was warning that we needed to be on alert for terrorism: sit on the couch and watch oprah or whoever.

because they really dont care. and ive sen it enough. hell, ive asked the question what will u do if we come up empty handed? the usual response was, so? we got saddam out. and we got oil too, and told the frogs off!

Mooooooooooooooo

Skadi, its my belief that we are a short itme away from what we Christians refer to as the rapture. But what if we're not?

I believe if not the rapture, then we are a few short decades from societal rebellion. We aren't evolving but degrading. We're breaking down. While technology advances, character and humanity crumbles. Human worth also seems to be onthe decline, falling to the values of centuries ago.

In a nutshell, Thomas, we are mesmorized.

TV. Opiate of the masses, the modern day religion.

Apathy. The lure of impossible dreams no one will ever have. The new enslavement is of the mind. No more iron collars, we will be prisoners of a lie.

I dont believe in the rapture, but I agree we are de evolving, becomeing weaker and weaker. And yes, no one has any values anymore, people are too cowardly and jaded to accept things such as personal responsibility.

Thus, cattle. The purpose of catle is to be slaughtered for food. Food to feed the great shadow gov.

Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf

Thus, cattle. The purpose of catle is to be slaughtered for food.

Some cattle ain't there to be slaughtered, dude.

Some cattle eat the juicy, green, green grass and wanders around the lush meadow in the warm sun.

Now and again they get milked. But damn dude, we've been milked all our lives.



We ain't all heading to the slaughterhouse.

Originally posted by Leveller

Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf

Thus, cattle. The purpose of catle is to be slaughtered for food.

Some cattle ain't there to be slaughtered, dude.

Some cattle eat the juicy, green, green grass and wanders around the lush meadow in the warm sun.

Now and again they get milked. But damn dude, we've been milked all our lives.



We ain't all heading to the slaughterhouse.

Sadly, most of America will.

[Edited on 9-6-2003 by TheCatalyst]

And then the world of Cattles will also lead the cattle line into the slaughterhouse

So far, written letters of support to the senators who are trying to impeach Bush, told the Republican party I would NOT support them or Bush, told my representatives and senators that I found their position both wrong and tragic and that I would no longer support them, signed up to join the Democratic party, and am starting to check the political news more.

And I fully intend to vote and to nag my liberal Democrat friends into going to the polls every chance we get.

Yes, and the milk is the taxes we pay from the money we earn.

Darned near half of the money. As a matter of fact, the top 10% income earners pay over 70% of the taxes.

They always find ways to keep our minds occupied while we are milked, huh?

If we woke up one day, though, we'd go from milk cows to "Beef, its what's for dinner."

occupy eyy well yeah from 9 to 5 and 5 to 9 lol
and enslaving the lives just to pay bills too busy to care about what's really going on just fall into the same routine in this existence.
now I got a question.are you satisfy with the way you exist every single day just like the one before?

The government has been lying to us all along (phoney public debt, phoney taxes, social security, etc.). There have been those who been telling the public since this since the JFK assination. Nothing has changed. I personally can tell you what happens to people who "stand up" too much. Bush can be impeached and removed from office tomorrow and nothing will change. A new president will be troted out the next day and will be just as bad. As for the difference between Democrats and Replubicans, you just chose which faction of the Federal Reserve Party you want running the government (both parties are Friends of the Fed). Nothing is going to change in the USA until there is a basic reformation of the government. At least a new political party must be formed. The federal courts must be overhauled and be compelled to follow their own rules. The federal bureaucracy must be completely reorganized and restrained. For example, Congress has essentially given the IRS the authority to make tax law - this is a direct violation of the constitution, yet the federal courts will not do a thing about it. Just impeaching one guy isn't going to change things. Futhermore Bush will just trot out the old "plausible deniablity" doctrine. (He will claim that he didn't lie, but his aids lied and gave him bad information.)

Jagdflieger That is sure true they are just mere puppets

Jagdflieger That is sure true they are just mere puppets

We're going to do nothing. Because nothing is what we can do.

I plan on moving to Canada, but that'll probably mean nothing in the end.