Raise Your Hand If You Think All Chemtrails are Contrails

I am not sure why they exist, but I see them. Not every day, but damn near every other day. They do not dissipate. They do not follow any specific pattern. I read where they happen in certain atmospheric conditions at certain heights. If these trails are all supposed to be normal then how come they do not show up all the time every day if the atmosphere stays the same?

There does seem to be a purpose to them. Now, maybe it has nothing to do with depopulation, but there has to be some reason for them.

Maybe it is a secret vaccination program instituted by the UN. That would explain how so many countries seem to be involved. Maybe it has to do with climate control.

I have heard people that are pro-contrail suggest that why would they infect the entire population if their own families would suffer? Maybe those people that are involved have been inoculated and made sure their families were, too.

I have been up since 8 this morning and out my window was a beautiful blue sky, clear and without clouds when out of that blue clear sky the madness began.

First one, n to s, then another e to w, then another nw to se, and so it has been going on constantly, no pattern, atmospheric conditions the exact same and yet there they are everywhere.

These are not normal, they are man made on purpose. Whatever the reason is, all the scientific mumbo jumbo out there designed to convince me otherwise are just nonsensical arguments. You might as well be that charlie brown character with the wah wah wah voice. If somebody wants to convince me it will take much more than the normal shill troll disinfo agents to change my opinion.

I am 52 years old and these things have not been around all my life, they just began in the last 10 to 15 years with regularity.

If they were all normal then they would have been around all my life.

originally posted by: soulpowertothendegree
I read where they happen in certain atmospheric conditions at certain heights. If these trails are all supposed to be normal then how come they do not show up all the time every day if the atmosphere stays the same?

The air pressure and temperature is constantly changing, 'atmosphere' isn't really the best way to describe it. More like 'air conditions'. You claim you read about 'atmospheric conditions', implying change in the atmosphere, yet your question is asked with the premise that the atmosphere stays the same.

I am 52 years old and these things have not been around all my life, they just began in the last 10 to 15 years with regularity.

And imagine how much the population has grown in that time, and the percentage of the total population using air travel overall as time progressed.

That is me raising my hand. I think they are contrails.
Obviously even though it seems so at first you do not think so.
And for a moment I thought finally a sensible thread but noooooo Just a chemtrail supporter in disguise

a reply to: AutumnWitch657

uhhhhh... you're not denying ignorance like you should be...,

Lets take this down the path from the chemtrail to where it might start and then look to see how unlikely it all is.

Planes
1. 1000s of planes everyday dumping chemicals. Must be airlines since that is the only thing that has that numbers
a. Is it in the fuel? Well chemicals burned in a jet engine would not survive.
b. Is it sprayed from secret tanks? There are no nozzles and there is no secret tanks in the planes unless 150,000 Boeing employees are all keeping a secret, as one example.

Infrastructure
1. Huge factories needed to make the stuff
a. huge storage
b. massive supplies needed
2. Large transportation system
3. Massive number of people "In the know"

Physical nature
1. Water makes clouds and is very light with H2O. That is basically 10 total electrons protons and neutrons to make one molecule of water. Very light and so clouds/water vapor float. If the chem trails were water vapor in the air condensed by the heated exhaust we would see floating trails. If it was chemicals with large atomic structures they would fall to earth, and so if visual, would look like rain.
2. Why dump them at 35,000 feet just to see parts per trillion happen? In Vietnam chemicals were sprayed close to the ground and fell like rain.
3. Would not a test of the air, water, plants, blood, etc. prove it all? There are 1000s of schools and independent labs that would love to prove this if it was real, unless they are all "In the know" too.

In the end we either have a massive system of 100,000s (millions?) of people involved all keeping a secret, we have a massive infrastructure all invisible and secret, and we have 1000s of secret planes, or we do not have chemtrails....

When we actually look at what it would take to turn all your contrails into chemtrails we have nothing but fluffy contrails as proof...hmmm what do you think they are?

a reply to: soulpowertothendegree
To my knowledge, contrails eventually dissipate...They don't spread out and cover the entire sky for the duration of the day...

originally posted by: soulpowertothendegree


These are not normal, they are man made on purpose. Whatever the reason is, all the scientific mumbo jumbo out there designed to convince me otherwise are just nonsensical arguments. You might as well be that charlie brown character with the wah wah wah voice. If somebody wants to convince me it will take much more than the normal shill troll disinfo agents to change my opinion.

But a secret operation with its own secret infrastructure, secret plane fleet and indeterminable purpose that happens all over the planet with nobody but a few internet keyboard warriors knowing about it is NOT mumbo jumbo shill troll disinformation?

Oh dear.

I am 52 years old and these things have not been around all my life, they just began in the last 10 to 15 years with regularity.

If they were all normal then they would have been around all my life.

I am 50 and yes they have. Even jet transports (not even the first types to leave contrails) predate your birth by a decade.

originally posted by: Iscool
a reply to: soulpowertothendegree
To my knowledge, contrails eventually dissipate...They don't spread out and cover the entire sky for the duration of the day...

Why not? What would stop them?

a reply to: BelowLowAnnouncement

I don't see how you answered his questions, except to correct his presumed errors. Can you shed light on what he said?

Not buying the "there's more air traffic now that ever before" excuse.

originally posted by: waynos

originally posted by: Iscool
a reply to: soulpowertothendegree
To my knowledge, contrails eventually dissipate...They don't spread out and cover the entire sky for the duration of the day...

Why not? What would stop them?

The sky police!

a reply to: Xtrozero

I think you are in for a shocker. And when it hits the fan, remember your post here.

I suggest you watch the movie Sneakers..."too many secrets".

~beannacht

originally posted by: soulpowertothendegree
Raise Your Hand If You Think All Chemtrails are Contrails

All contrails are contrails. The word "chemtrails' is a made-up word by a select few to try to make some money and fear-monger the gullible.

originally posted by: soulpowertothendegree
First one, n to s, then another e to w, then another nw to se

Are you implying that planes aren't allowed to travel in any direction? Only in directions to keep people from making up silly things like "chemtrails"?

originally posted by: soulpowertothendegree
These are not normal... I am 52 years old and these things have not been around all my life

They are normal. And contrails have been around for far longer than you've been alive. In the image below, the top picture is a recent one of contrails, and the bottom one is from the 1960's:

Look pretty similar, don't they?



This image shows the increase in the number of flights between 1989 and 2004. You can also see the some places that weren't even getting air traffic are now:

And as more planes enter service, and more people are born, then more air traffic will also occur causing more contrails. Scientists are working on ways to reduce the amount of moisture in engine exhaust that causes contrails. But until then, contrails will continue increasing in numbers.

You can see many more images all the way back to the 1940's, as well as an excellent debunking of the myth known as "chemtrails" at:

Contrail Science

originally posted by: soulpowertothendegreeMaybe it is a secret vaccination program instituted by the UN. That would explain how so many countries seem to be involved. Maybe it has to do with climate control.

Yes, its written on the granite stones at Georgia, USA where the 500 million elite want this planet for themselves.

So just let them breath in the chem-trails as well and watch them die along with us when the key chemical is sprayed very soon.

Look at California. So elitists in California, the world is watching you fry and pay high electrical bills with the air-cons

Its going to be a real laugh watching them choke soon on their own chemicals.

And if they go underground; well underground bases don't mix well with earthquakes LOL

a reply to: rexsblues

uhhhhh... you're not denying ignorance like you should be...

And posting a video from Dane Wigington is?

originally posted by: Ultralight
a reply to: Xtrozero

I think you are in for a shocker. And when it hits the fan, remember your post here.

I suggest you watch the movie Sneakers..."too many secrets".

~beannacht

I don't know about that. I been in the aviation business for 35 years (25 flying in the military large transports) with about 10,000 hours of flying, I also work now for Boeing as a upper manager. I'm well involved in the aviation business at many levels so I do not think I'm in for a shocker anytime soon.

originally posted by: soulpowertothendegree

I am 52 years old and these things have not been around all my life, they just began in the last 10 to 15 years with regularity.

If they were all normal then they would have been around all my life.

I'm 55 and remember seeing them as long as I would have known what I was looking at,which in this case is the early 1970s.In fact I remember that back then down here in the south east of England we had a LOT more days where we had persistent contrails than we have here now.

a reply to: soulpowertothendegree

I am not sure why they exist, but I see them.

And exactly how is it you know they actually exist?

They do not follow any specific pattern. I read where they happen in certain atmospheric conditions at certain heights. If these trails are all supposed to be normal then how come they do not show up all the time every day if the atmosphere stays the same?

Are there clouds everyday?

If the atmosphere stays the same...why do we have clouds on some days but not others?

These are not normal, they are man made on purpose.

They are normal, and aren't done on purpose.

If somebody wants to convince me it will take much more than the normal shill troll disinfo agents to change my opinion.

So because someone doesn't agree with you they are shills...utterly amazing.

I am 52 years old and these things have not been around all my life, they just began in the last 10 to 15 years with regularity.

And yet we have them recorded in WWII.





How is that if they have only been around for only the last 10 or 15 years, yet we have historical pics with them in it?

a reply to: Ultralight

Not buying the "there's more air traffic now that ever before" excuse.

Why, as it is something you can research for yourself.

a reply to: tsurfer2000h

Here's another WWII photo of the sky, taken from a bomber over Europe on 15 November, 1945.


Seems this Chemtrail business has been going on, unabated and in total secrecy since before WWII, wow. < / sacasm >