CyberBerkut: The world should know and see it!

a reply to: maghun

No comment.

Imagine that.

So you post this as something yet refuse to comment about it...why?

Is it because of who supposedly made the video known...is this just some more pro Russian propaganda coming from self proclaimed wannabe Anonymous that has yet to be shown as anything but another propaganda pusher for the Kremlin?

a reply to: EA006

Yea. It's amazing how disagreeing with somebody's evidence brings on the shill accusations, isn't it? But I figured if not agreeing with if every crackpot theory is enough to get called a shill, why not embrace it?

The funny thing is that in your very own comment, you say "nearly every thread." Meaning not all threads. Which would lead one to believe that when I support something, I genuinely support it and believe in it, since it's obvious that my expectation of credibility and proof exceeds many here on ATS.

Yet somehow, that's shill behavior.

If you want to accuse, accuse. No need to leave it at a lame implication.

Big boy pants and such.

a reply to: EA006

It's pretty well done actually, there's even a breeze in there.

Then why does the sand not match the actual beheading videos and would there not be a green screen behind them to give the impression it was being done in another location?

You see certain small things such as that show this is a BS video being pushed by a certain BS pro Russian hacktivist group that is in it for the Kremlin.

I guess lying about Ukraine is getting boring so they branched out to ISIS.

I have to ask why you asked this in the other thread...

How do you know its Foley?

Seems your actually questioning the authenticity of this video, yet have a problem when others do?

a reply to: Shamrock6

I said nearly because I couldn't be bothered reading all of them. Same thing and all that.....

originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: EA006

Seems like your the only one laughing.....

Not really I laughed at it when it was posted here...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

A day later. When my comment was based on the previous posts up until mine in the original thread.....

The attempts at damage limitation in this thread are amusing to read.

a reply to: EA006

Your lack of "being bothered" doesn't change facts in evidence.

Toodles

a reply to: EA006

Almost as amusing as the desperate attempts to turn the video into something it's not

originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: EA006

It's pretty well done actually, there's even a breeze in there.

Then why does the sand not match the actual beheading videos and would there not be a green screen behind them to give the impression it was being done in another location?

You see certain small things such as that show this is a BS video being pushed by a certain BS pro Russian hacktivist group that is in it for the Kremlin.

I guess lying about Ukraine is getting boring so they branched out to ISIS.

I have to ask why you asked this in the other thread...

How do you know its Foley?

Seems your actually questioning the authenticity of this video, yet have a problem when others do?

there is a green screen... and the sand colour can be tweeked after filming

side by side gif it matches but not 100% though i could be a rehearsal i.imgur.com...

a reply to: haven123

In the other thread you said it's "an exact match."

It's not.

It's a match because it shows two sets of people dressed similarly and positioned similarly. The movements don't match. So really, any two people who are dressed as they are and positioned as they are is apparently "a match."

a reply to: haven123

there is a green screen... and the sand colour can be tweeked after filming

Have any proof that was done, or are you just speculating?

a reply to: Shamrock6

It's a match because it shows two sets of people dressed similarly and positioned similarly. The movements don't match. So really, any two people who are dressed as they are and positioned as they are is apparently "a match."

I think the fact that it has no sound only provides more evidence this video was a sham that a certain group is putting out to make the US look as though it was behind the original videos.

The other thing I find interesting is it was posted on Sputnik News...Russia's favorite propaganda outlet, also the fact they said they got it from a staffer of John McCain so now why would a staffer have something that would be classified well beyond the security level a staffer would have, but that staffer had it on an electronic device.

John McCain is a fool, but I guarantee he isn't that foolish to allow a staffer to have this type of info on an easily hacked electronic device.

originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: haven123

there is a green screen... and the sand colour can be tweeked after filming

Have any proof that was done, or are you just speculating?

you know i have no proof its plausible, why are you so interested in disproving it?

a reply to: EA006

So, really it could very well be a 3 letter agency making this video?

The FSB is a three letter agency.

That's what it looks like. It's being filmed using old equipment for somebody else.

Or perhaps the best the hoaxers could find.

You have essentially agreed. Why is the leap so hard to believe maybe Russians didn't do this?

You have essentially agreed. Why is it so hard for you to believe that maybe the Russians did do it?

originally posted by: haven123
side by side gif it matches but not 100% though i could be a rehearsal i.imgur.com...

Why is that spotlight in the foreground? It is not focused on the scene. Also, the camera is too close. This is an unusually bad fake.

a reply to: DJW001

I haven't decided who made it yet.

I haven't got proof either way.

I see the same people slamming another thread for no reason other than to segway it.

Nobody on here can provide proof, why are there people asking for it? Why?

Now it could very well be Russians making the video, I didn't say they didn't or couldn't have done, my stance has been how can the people I have mentioned outright deny its real?

Now, if your smart you'll read this and open your eyes, in future threads keep an eye out for said people.
You'll see what I mean.

a reply to: haven123

you know i have no proof its plausible, why are you so interested in disproving it?

Denying Ignorance.

I have to ask why your thread says it is confirmed...yet your saying it's plausible, so which one is it?

a reply to: EA006

I see the same people slamming another thread for no reason other than to segway it.

The thread your talking about get's slammed because there is not confirmation the video is of what they say it is.

And yet the OP insists it is.

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: haven123
side by side gif it matches but not 100% though i could be a rehearsal i.imgur.com...

Why is that spotlight in the foreground? It is not focused on the scene. Also, the camera is too close. This is an unusually bad fake.

perspective, and or rehearsal.

originally posted by: tsurfer2000h
a reply to: haven123

you know i have no proof its plausible, why are you so interested in disproving it?

Denying Ignorance.

I have to ask why your thread says it is confirmed...yet your saying it's plausible, so which one is it?

and if you noticed when it was pointed out i acknowledged it. you are persistent on this topic ...vested interests?