Monkey brains linked together in "brainet"

a reply to: Midnight4444

Honestly anyone who thinks this has not been done LONG LONG AGO with human brains, has (self edited for offensive language) IMO.

Is it just me or did anyone else think of Ghost In The Shell after reading this

a reply to: Char-Lee

I would be very interested in learning about that. Any suggested reading, or do you just want to insult people?

a reply to: Septimus

Imagine the pop up ads and viruses. Assuming somewhat individualized control, your whole consciousness could be brainjacked (as if Facebook, Vine, Tumblr, and Reddit haven't already begun the process).

It's like every single sinister, futuristic movie plot all thrown together at once...everyone's worst fears regarding VR and AI and integrated consciousness (and robots...it's always robots) come to pass. How collectively (pun intended, yes) stupid would we feel if we discovered that we've been slowly assimilating ourselves this entire time, social media and networking being the introductory phase? Here we are thinking we're expressing our individuality but in reality we've been just another ordinary cog in the same wheel? I mean, I suppose after a certain point we would not really care anymore or remember that we once cared, but still...what a depressing thought.

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originally posted by: SirKonstantin
a reply to: Midnight4444

This is Where it Is Going....

Sign. Me. Up.

I want be on the wired.

Trully THIS is the birth of transhumanism...

originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
One world, one nation, one mind. All that's missing is the mark of the beast.

Isn't that the goal of Christianity? Not a lot of difference between the mark of the beast, and god sealing his servants in their forehead.

originally posted by: cavtrooper7
Trully THIS is the birth of transhumanism...

I'm interested in knowing if you think it is a positive or a negative.
Would you sign up for the brainet once the kinks are worked out, and they get the smell of fried monkey brains off the machines?

originally posted by: Klassified

originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
One world, one nation, one mind. All that's missing is the mark of the beast.

Isn't that the goal of Christianity? Not a lot of difference between the mark of the beast, and god sealing his servants in their forehead.

For the love of science, let's not bring religion into this. There is a reason I didn't post this in the metaphysics or religious forums.

a reply to: Midnight4444

Once it's engineered to be non-invasive, absolutely. Don't wanna have to have brain surgery just to be on brain net, but if it were possible to have the implants placed by nanobots in pill form, you bet.

Which is coming, you know.

a reply to: Midnight4444

That's a question I think people should really start considering. I found a few years of Second Life to be quite entertaining, if not for the sake of how near unrestricted you were in it. I imagine such a scenario in a simulated reality to be infinitely more attractive, though I have to question what such freedom would do to our collective psyche. Time dilation is undoubtedly an issue. Many already view themselves as gods in their own right, what would happen if we essentially did become (simulated) gods? Oh, the possibilities. What happens when you become bored of creating any and everything you can imagine? Oh, the horror. There are downsides to immortality and the control of reality...

originally posted by: Midnight4444
a reply to: Char-Lee

I would be very interested in learning about that. Any suggested reading, or do you just want to insult people?

The history is there just look at how long ago they started looking at keeping brains alive. Human studies have always been secret for obvious reasons. No one is going to admit to these kinds of knowledge and experiments. it can be done so it has been done.
To make it less secret they have to get people to be accepting, they will have to ease people into it.

Nearly two decades later, a new phase of research may be about to begin. A 35-year-old, Harvard-trained St. Louis attorney who writes and patents his techniques under the name of Chet Fleming -- his real name is Patrick Kelly -- has acquired a unique and unusual patent, number 4,666,425, which describes a machine to keep alive severed heads, animal or human.

Nor is this the first time in history that people have wondered what happens inside a severed head or tried to preserve one. In 1887, a French scientist tried to attach heads of executed prisoners fresh from the guillotine to the bodies of large dogs.

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1887 – Jean Baptiste Vincent Laborde made what appears to be first recorded attempt to revive the heads of executed criminals by connecting the carotid artery of the severed human head to the carotid artery of a large dog.[6] According to Laborde's account, in isolated experiments a partial restoration of brain function was attained

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So, to answer your question: Sure, a whole brain can be kept alive, at least potentially and with today's technology. It's mostly a matter of developing the existing techniques, and we're still working on it.

As for how long it can be kept alive - conceivably, for a normal lifespan.

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a reply to: Midnight4444

For the love of science, let's not bring religion into this. There is a reason I didn't post this in the metaphysics or religious forums.

Once we go religion, all reason goes out the _

Who says it has anything to do with religion? Religious texts were meant to provide us with a chronology of events, guidelines from past experiences...religion is nothing but our interpretation of scientific things that we cannot understand just yet. Just my opinion, of course, but really science and religion are one and the same...we all believe the same things at the core of it, if we could only learn to speak the same language we would have such a different way of looking at the world. (Hopefully, not as a collective either...I'm rather fond of my uniqueness.)

a reply to: ScientificRailgun

Will neural patterns be developed that are codes for memories; books, skills, any kind of experience? Definite Matrix/Borg territory.

The truth is that anything that happens to us sensually is perceived as information from 5 senses as a neural pattern. If the neural patterns of experience could be translated into a neural code and sent straight to the memory via the correct neural path ways then that is where the human brain is accessible digitally.

Right... back to those monkeys in my lab (evil genius laugh).

originally posted by: Revolution9
a reply to: ScientificRailgun

Will neural patterns be developed that are codes for memories; books, skills, any kind of experience? Definite Matrix/Borg territory.

The truth is that anything that happens to us sensually is perceived as information from 5 senses as a neural pattern. If the neural patterns of experience could be translated into a neural code and sent straight to the memory via the correct neural path ways then that is where the human brain is accessible digitally.

Right... back to those monkeys in my lab (evil genius laugh).

That is our inevitable future, yes. Coupled with de-facto immortality via either consciousness uploading, or stopping/reversing the aging process. Chances are, babies born today will have a functionally indefinite lifespan. As futurist Ray Kurzweil put it: "You only have to live long enough to live forever."

a reply to: Midnight4444

Of course they can use the lab grown human brains in the future with claims of no human emotion in the brain make people feel better about it.

Mini human 'brains' grown in lab for first time

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originally posted by: Midnight4444
a reply to: Revolution9

I'm accepting of animal experimentation, but I'm having trouble finding the human benefits of this technology.
Maybe someone with a more tech oriented mind can explain to me how this sort of link would be advantageous for human society...that is if they can avoid being thrown into this mental human centipede.

Anything involving sticking electrodes into live brains could help the paralyzed.

In AI classes, they would talk about how a complex task could be split into a large number of simple tasks like a factory assembly line. Driving a car is complex, but can be split up into separate tasks such as controlling the steering wheel, the gear stick, the brake, clutch and accelerator, the indicator lights and responding to events in the front and rear windscreens.

If they can get two or more people to super-coordinate their actions, like a aircraft flight crew, who knows what's possible.

originally posted by: Midnight4444
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Scientists have linked together multiple monkey brains, and trained them to perform synchronised tasks.

I can't explain it nearly as well as the article, but this freaks me out.

I'm not a Luddite, I am pro science and most experimentation, but utilizing humans is clearly the next step.
There are ethical and moral quandaries here that I can't begin to fathom.

Is this the future...human brains linked into a neural net all over the planet?

ive speculated for a little while now that the rate and direction of our technological advancements would make a hivemind the next logical step. we already share everything via social networks, its not a big stretch. not to mention that global security would be much more efficient if an antivirus software were applied to a network in which all of society was nestled like billions of honeycombs a la the matrix.

but thats just me speculating.

What if we have already done this? What if we are a collective mind living through each others experiences. Due to our infinite boredom we restrict our perception to keep the experiences new. As a collective we could perform this task while keeping our consciousness split between living all lives individually and exploring/creating all things. What if we are all a part of GOD already. What if dreams are a glimpse of other things we are doing. What if deep down we create religions to explain a truth we now deep down within us.