MTV's new show "White People"

originally posted by: JadeStar
I agree that accomplishments and character are what we should care most about but this ignores the fact that all too often people are not given the benefit of the doubt to show their accomplishments and character. But rather there are assumptions made due to their ethnicity.

Potentially, but i doubt this is happening anywhere near as often as you may think. And this doesn't just happen to "minorities", it happens to whites as well....take me for example. I'm OVER-qualified for the job i do.. They have management positions available, yet they chose to stick me in some low-level hell.. Why? your guess is as good as mine, but i'm absolutely qualified for what i applied for.

This show is obviously targeted at my age group (20-something millennials) of all ethnicities.

Yes...it's targeted at naive, dumbass 20-somethings, who have been through the public school system, and are now getting their college indoctrination.... This, of course, assumes that the goal of the program is to perpetuate this idiotic concept of "white guilt"....they could switch things up, and say something like "white guilt is f**king stupid, and here's why"...we just don't know...we'll hafta wait and see.

As I am half white and half black the show will only interest me if it cuts through stereotypes and provocative sound bytes.

Don't much care about what color you are...You should really think about why you felt it necessary to announce it. As to the other bit... you'll probably be disappointed.

Many in my generation are of mixed ethnicity and I feel my generation might be uniquely situated to have this conversation in a productive way.

Why? does being of mixed ethnicity endow you with some sort of magic, that the rest of us lack? You do realize that this is "social justice" thinking, right? The fact that you believe that being of mixed heritage somehow makes you better suited to have the conversation, tells me that you are at least a little deluded.

And make no mistake, there does need to be an ongoing conversation on race in America until racism is eliminated. Sweeping it under the rug until the next tragedy has not served us well at all.

More "social justice" thinking. As long as "racism" is an ongoing conversation, there will always be "racism". Talking about it, and trying to "stamp it out", only perpetuates it.

Until someone who looks like me is considered just as "All American" as someone with blonde hair and blue eyes then there is a problem.

This isn't Nazi Germany...Blonde hair, and blue eyes isn't the ideal. If that's you in your avatar picture, then i honestly don't give a flying firetruck what your ethnic heritage is....You look normal enough to me.. I'd take you out on a date...and if, through the course of normal conversation, i found your character lacking, i'd disengage, and have nothing more to do with you. nothing to do with "color", everything to do with quality of character. Funny, that, yes?

That problem doesn't go away by ignoring or shutting down conversations around very real, systemic, ingrained issues.

such as?

The problem also doesn't go away by slinging stereotypical accusations back and forth either.

such as?

I see black people as part of my very extended family. I see white people as part of my very extended family. I see latino, hispanic and asian people as part of my very extended family.

So what you're saying is that we're all human, and we shouldn't be judging based on color? I happen to agree, but the "social justice" set calls that kind of thinking a "microaggression"...

Do you?

insofar as we're all human, yeah, sure...and even when it comes to those ethnicities that i have no blood connection to, i just file that under "oh look, more humans...i really don't care".

The problem starts to go away when you can say that you do and actually do.

I'd say the problem is on it's way out the door....the new problem is people who are CONSTANTLY making an issue of "race", and using it as a weapon...it's the only card they have left to play, so they hold onto it with a death grip, and wield it fiercely, at every opportunity...those are the people you should be concerned with....the ones who keep this crap going, under the guise of "having a productive conversation".

a reply to: TonyS

See, i'm thinking either you're just really bad at writing, or you're backpedaling.

This whole "no, i''m not saying white people should gtfo, i'm just saying that the country is crap, and that they might wanna leave for THAT reason", i think is B.S.

If that's truly what you meant, then that's what you should have said in the first place..

a reply to: TonyS

Yes, sure, let's just run away, and let the invaders take all that we have built.....sounds perfectly reasonable.

Your mate has dog food for brains. You should stop talking to him.

a reply to: Daedalus

Who are the invaders and what exactly have you built? Can you trace your lineage to either the colonists that created the gov.? The slaves that built the country? Or the native Americans who are the only ones that can really call people "invaders"? Which one are you?

a reply to: JadeStar

once upon a time...yes, they surely did.

a reply to: Feltrick

Gods, yes....this...a THOUSAND PERCENT, THIS.

Thank you.

a reply to: Pinke

A star for you, friend....because facts and reality are FAR more important than lies and innuendo..

a reply to: JadeStar

I've got quite a few years on you....When i was a kid, i had black friends, indian friends(actual indians from india), white friends, hispanic friends...hell, i even had a friend from syria....This isn't anything new, or unique to your generation. It's all to do with mindset.

What I need are directions on how to BLOCK MTV from my cable box.
Not into self-hate.

a reply to: Daedalus

You said it much better than I could, Awesome stuff!

I don't understand why anyone feels the need to tell anyone their race, like it makes a difference.

"Hey, I'm (insert race), my ideas are important!" Just makes the argument that more meaningless.

a reply to: hadriana

Well if you were black there's a couple of channels you would have to block so you don't fall into 'self hate'

originally posted by: hadriana
What I need are directions on how to BLOCK MTV from my cable box.
Not into self-hate.

Here's a novel idea.
Just don't watch MTV.

I know, I'm a pretty smart cookie when I get my full eight hours.

a reply to: christophoros

not that it's any of your business, but yes, i can trace my lines all the way back to the original 13 colonies. Additionally, i do actually have native ancestry. and before you ask, near as i can tell, none of my colonial fore-bearers owned slaves.

By invaders, i'm talking about illegal immigrants. I have no issue with people immigrating to this country...what i have a problem with people sneaking over the border, or just remaining here after their guest visa has expired, squatting, and then putting their hand out, to collect benefits they have no legal right to...

a reply to: Daedalus

Now that is something I can agree with I don't like that term invaders because it sounds violent and in turn leads to violence. We have to be careful with our rhetoric.

a reply to: Daedalus

That one Glenn beck mantra of "we need to take back OUR country" was recently used by a murderous psycho pathe. We must be careful not to rile up the mentally unstable with aggressive rhetoric.

This thread has turned into such a pissing match. Should be 404'd.

Racism is a thing in the US to deny it is just plain ignorance. Racism is not a white trait as some of you might think. That in itself is racism. It is a cultural trait. Folks are not born racist they become that way. Upbringing or trauma is usually the culprit.

Black folks, Asian folks Hispanic folks they are racist too. Really they are. Not all of them but some of them. White people are racist too. Not all of them but some of them. Those who are most effected by this thread are ignorant to that and are only perpetuating their ignorance to racism.

We all have our stats that get spun. We all feel like we know more about what side is right and what side wrong. We use all this energy trying to tell other people what they should feel and believe that we lose sight of whats really going on to fix the issue... NOTHING!!! Nothing will ever fix the issue. It will always be here. The reason is because of some of the fine contributors of this post and the many others like them. They are too busy trying to tell others how they should feel. They are too caught up in pointing out how wrong the other side is. They personalize it and becomes less about racism and more about just wanting to be right. Not only wanting to be right but being right and pompous/pretentious about it.

In closing. Mtv is just fanning the flames of an already out of control wildfire. It's up to you if you feel the need to watch it. By watching it you are supporting it. Regardless of your stance. Just know when I kickstart "Black People" I expect all the same responses supporting my documentary.

a reply to: ScientificRailgun


I don't think I have since I was 18 or so anyway. I still watch music videos, but I tend to just look them up on youtube.

(I just think it might make a bit more of a statement if I called the cable station and told them I wanted the whole thing blocked.)

originally posted by: hadriana
a reply to: ScientificRailgun

I don't think I have since I was 18 or so anyway. I still watch music videos, but I tend to just look them up on youtube.

(I just think it might make a bit more of a statement if I called the cable station and told them I wanted the whole thing blocked.)

I haven't watched MTV in a long, long time. And Music Videos today are so sad compared to the music videos of the 80's and 90's. Back then music videos were like 3-4 minute movies set to music that told a story. Now it's just "THIS BAND DOES STUFF IN BLACK AND WHITE. NOW THEY'RE ON STAGE. NOW THEY'RE HORSING AROUND."

Sad sad.

You haven't noticed the progressive fascist creep huh?

Western civilisation itself is dying because of this sick ideology and from its ashes fascism will rise.

originally posted by: Vector99
Hey MTV, us white people were being sarcastic when we said "why don't white people have a show"

Someone please introduce MTV to sarcasm, or quaaludes

On a totally different subject I thoroughly enjoyed a show that used to come on called "Rocket City Rednecks". Now when I first read the title of the show I was like "what? that sounds kinda racist" but then I watched the show and it was really cool because it busted down a lot of stereotypes about people from the south who are considered "rednecks" being dumb, unworldly, close minded, racist, etc. I learned everything from where the term originated, to the history of "moonshine", to the role Alabama played in the space program.