GOP Candidates Snub Largest Gathering of Latino Leaders

originally posted by: NavyDoc
Of course they didn't attend a meeting of a racist radical Marxist group. Complaining about that would be like excoriating a democratic candidate for refusing to attend a KKK rally.

National Council of La Raza is not racist nor Marxist. It is a advocacy group. Who's work includes improving education for the poor both Spanish and English speakers. It was founded with the help of the National Council of Churches and the United Auto Workers.

La Raza means different things in different Spanish dialects, the group uses the translation the Hispanic people of the New World.

And they have been heavily courted by the GOP in the past, even earmarking 4 million dollars in a grant to it in 2005.

This year, thanks to Trump the GOP has just given up on the Hispanic Vote. Going to the meeting this time would have been a disaster.

originally posted by: MrSpad

originally posted by: NavyDoc
Of course they didn't attend a meeting of a racist radical Marxist group. Complaining about that would be like excoriating a democratic candidate for refusing to attend a KKK rally.

National Council of La Raza is not racist nor Marxist. It is a advocacy group. Who's work includes improving education for the poor both Spanish and English speakers. It was founded with the help of the National Council of Churches and the United Auto Workers.

La Raza means different things in different Spanish dialects, the group uses the translation the Hispanic people of the New World.

And they have been heavily courted by the GOP in the past, even earmarking 4 million dollars in a grant to it in 2005.

This year, thanks to Trump the GOP has just given up on the Hispanic Vote. Going to the meeting this time would have been a disaster.

This makes me think that no matter who win's the primary in the GOP..the democrats are getting the presidency again. Hope for Sanders over Hillary?

Just as an interesting note:

This idea that La Raza is 'radical'. Why doesn't anyone look them up - see what they do. What is the Agenda for the gathering? It's simple really - decide for yourself. Most likely you'll like some things they do and believe and not others - like with - well - everything.

If you are basing your sympathies and antipathies on 'hearsay' (you know the game you, I hope, played in the elementary classroom more then once called telephone) you are not getting the facts about a situation, organization or person. Especially when a lot of money is behind pushing an imagine for or against people, place, things.

originally posted by: amazing

originally posted by: MrSpad

originally posted by: NavyDoc
Of course they didn't attend a meeting of a racist radical Marxist group. Complaining about that would be like excoriating a democratic candidate for refusing to attend a KKK rally.

National Council of La Raza is not racist nor Marxist. It is a advocacy group. Who's work includes improving education for the poor both Spanish and English speakers. It was founded with the help of the National Council of Churches and the United Auto Workers.

La Raza means different things in different Spanish dialects, the group uses the translation the Hispanic people of the New World.

And they have been heavily courted by the GOP in the past, even earmarking 4 million dollars in a grant to it in 2005.

This year, thanks to Trump the GOP has just given up on the Hispanic Vote. Going to the meeting this time would have been a disaster.

This makes me think that no matter who win's the primary in the GOP..the democrats are getting the presidency again. Hope for Sanders over Hillary?

I honestly do not know how the GOP can recover. If it had purged the Tea Party radicals before the election they could have a good chance but, instead they continue to drive away anybody who is not a white male over 40. They used to split or win the Hispanic vote before the GOP swung hard right and ended up anti everything. Jeb is the most moderate and people pretty much see through his swing to the right for the primaries. If he does not take the nomination the GOP has no chance. On the DNC side they could run a talking bird and likely win if is up against most the GOP hopefuls. If you end up with Bush vs Clinton it would almost be like each one is in the wrong party. In my opinion Jeb, Sanders and Clinton would all be about the same in office and fairly harmless.

La Raza is being considered an 'advocacy group' now? I would have thought terrorist or at least supremists.....it's mind boggling.

What strange times we live in.

a reply to: olaru12

Only if he wins the nomination. i think Rubio will get the nod. he is hispanic himself

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: NavyDoc
Of course they didn't attend a meeting of a racist radical Marxist group. Complaining about that would be like excoriating a democratic candidate for refusing to attend a KKK rally.

That's absurd. La Raza is not a Marxist extremist group in the slightest. The only reason people believe that tripe is because of the propaganda that's been put out in the media.

La Raza is an advocacy organization, kind of like the NRA, that lobbies on issues that the Latino community find important.

One of the things they advocate for is the concept of Aztlan.

Google it. It involves conquering the American Southwest and returning it to Mexico.

Talk about immigration reform.

Harte

originally posted by: Harte

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: NavyDoc
Of course they didn't attend a meeting of a racist radical Marxist group. Complaining about that would be like excoriating a democratic candidate for refusing to attend a KKK rally.

That's absurd. La Raza is not a Marxist extremist group in the slightest. The only reason people believe that tripe is because of the propaganda that's been put out in the media.

La Raza is an advocacy organization, kind of like the NRA, that lobbies on issues that the Latino community find important.

One of the things they advocate for is the concept of Aztlan.

Google it. It involves conquering the American Southwest and returning it to Mexico.

Talk about immigration reform.

Harte

No they do not. That is another group that is not affiliated with the NCLR. We've already addressed this nonsense.

For the love of god, why do people believe the garbage they are fed?

a reply to: introvert

I think there is disfinfo agents on this board they pro ably think potato and tomato are the same thing because they sound the same.

Yeah but it's the perception of the average voter. The perception is that the Gop is not good on women's issues, doesn't care about Latino voters and his hostile to Gay voters oh and doesn't care for none of that science hogwash either oh and don't forget the millions of atheists!

That's a lot of voters! Hillary of course will play right into that.

Speaking of left wing politics. Do any of you ever realized why most Latinos are more to the left? We resent America for the destruction it let large companies like Dole hash out on its people. Have any of you heard of the banana wars? How many presidents removed or assassinated that were against corporate demands? Most Latinos joke of our oppression saying 'if only we didn't have these resources these men craved if it snowed like in northern countries we would never have to worry about Americans''. But seriously the only reason we have a majority disdain right wing politics is because of the havoc that was done to ALL our countries in the name of money. We look at Cuba a country with no help who is independent and able and has just recently discovered a lung cancer vaccine. And then we look at the countries duped into getting loans from the IMF and we see the hellhole and corruption in those countries. Did you guys know nestle tried to make it illegal to collect rainwater in south America and they had to fight teeth and nail to stop it? Latinos see you in bed and hanging out with the organizations that are actively oppressing them and yet you wonder why they don't trust American politics.

Just a thought - why not consider winning a majority of CITIZENS votes for a change. You know, like a representative constitutional republic is designed to work.

As opposed to pandering to special interests groups in order to further insure your own private political career.

IMHO

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Harte

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: NavyDoc
Of course they didn't attend a meeting of a racist radical Marxist group. Complaining about that would be like excoriating a democratic candidate for refusing to attend a KKK rally.

That's absurd. La Raza is not a Marxist extremist group in the slightest. The only reason people believe that tripe is because of the propaganda that's been put out in the media.

La Raza is an advocacy organization, kind of like the NRA, that lobbies on issues that the Latino community find important.

One of the things they advocate for is the concept of Aztlan.

Google it. It involves conquering the American Southwest and returning it to Mexico.

Talk about immigration reform.

Harte

No they do not. That is another group that is not affiliated with the NCLR. We've already addressed this nonsense.

For the love of god, why do people believe the garbage they are fed?

Why, then, should we believe what you feed us?

Harte

a reply to: Harte

They are two totally different groups is it that hard to understand? Look it up you were on Google a mi Ute ago trying to prove they were Marxists clearly you can find the ACTUAL group.

a reply to: kerontehe

What exactly do the majority of citizens want isn't 70% of this country Christian? I totally don't want that majority dictating legislation.

a reply to: christophoros

Spoon feeding the baby en.m.wikipedia.org... now go to the part where it says history and then realize they have nothing to do with the Marxist group.

“Aztlan” and the Question of “Reconquista”

According to the late Rep. Charlie Norwood (R-Georgia), NCLR teaches that “Colorado, California, Arizona, Texas, Utah, New Mexico, Oregon and parts of Washington State make up an area known as 'Aztlán'—a fictional ancestral homeland of the Aztecs before Europeans arrived in North America.” Norwood stated that La Raza views this region as the rightful property of the government and people of Mexico, and thus seeks to bring about a Mexican “Reconquista” (“Reconquest”) of these southwestern states. But such a reconquest “won't end with territorial occupation and secession,” Norwood added. “The final plan for the La Raza movement includes the ethnic cleansing of Americans of European, African, and Asian descent out of 'Aztlán.'” Norwood also characterized NCLR as "a radical racist group … one of the most anti-American groups in the country, which has permeated U.S. campuses since the 1960s, and continues its push to carve a racist nation out of the American West."

John Stone, president of the U.S. Freedom Foundation and former chief of staff to Rep. Norwood, similarly maintains that NCLR has ties to a number of separatist Reconquista groups.

In 2007, La Raza's website stated explicitly that NCLR's mission is the “empowerment of our gente [people] and the liberation of Aztlán.”

NCLR, however, says it is a “misconception” to believe that it has ever, at any time, endorsed “the notion of a 'Reconquista' or 'Aztlán.'”

La Raza's Support of Separatist Groups

While claiming that it “has never supported, and does not support, separatist organizations,” NCLR acknowledges that in 2003 it provided the Georgetown University chapter of MEChA—an openly separatist Chicano student group—with a $2,500 grant. But NCLR defends that grant by asserting that MEChA's “primary objectives are educational—to help Latino students finish high school and go to college, and to support them while at institutions of higher education.”

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Imagine what would happen should conservatives seek the votes or approval of this organization.

So, let's just pretend that Republicans are stupid, right?

Harte

Thoughts ATS?

Politicians should not be pandering( and that's what it is) to different demographic's.

Gotta make the African American's 'feel' special.

Gotta make the LGBT's 'feel' special.

Gotta make the poor 'feel' special.

Gotta make the hispanics 'feel' special.

Why yes politicians should just whisper sweet nothings in to the masses ears, and make them feel all warm, and fuzzy inside!

Hell it's the American way!

Every time a politician panders to one particular group they are snubbing someone else.

They won't meet with La Raza for the same reason they won't meet with the Black Panthers...And someone has a problem with that???

a reply to: tothetenthpower

Of course it has been pointed out here that La Raza has been vilified in the past by conservatives..

President Barack Obama’s Supreme Court nominee is a member of an influential extremist Mexican La Raza group that advocates open borders and driver’s licenses for illegal immigrants.

Judge Sonia Sotomayor is listed as a member of the National Council of La Raza

www.judicialwatch.org...

This is just a taste of what went on with the right going after her ties to La Raza. You would have thought La Raza made the KKK look like the local moose lodge after they got done with it.

So, politics aside...It is no mystery that GOP candidates would skip the event.

That said...Imagine a world where Presidential candidates went and talked to groups regardless of how it would appear in the media or to their supporters...Just showed up and spoke their truth? Shouldn't they being reaching out to people that think differently than themselves? Alas...that would be nice.