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A story I heard today.
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a reply to: Kapusta
That sounds like a good plan, but please, I must reiterate, avoid any leading questions. Don't ask about alies, for example, or even discuss that possibility with these people. Yes, there are similarities, but to plant the idea in their minds could taint their memories, and you might never get to the actual events. It's difficult, but writing things down ahead of time, and checking to avoid such leading questions, is a good idea.
That sounds like a good plan, but please, I must reiterate, avoid any leading questions. Don't ask about alies, for example, or even discuss that possibility with these people. Yes, there are similarities, but to plant the idea in their minds could taint their memories, and you might never get to the actual events. It's difficult, but writing things down ahead of time, and checking to avoid such leading questions, is a good idea.
Owls are amazing creatures???...I remember the last time I had seen one in the middle of the day..saw it fly in front of me....they are the creepiest
looking animals I have ever seen...have y'all really looked at one, their face is almost indentical to the human face, if looked at the right
angle...very creepy, think this one was a barn owl...Will never look at an owl the same way again...
I grew up in Arizona, I've seen bizarre behavior in rattlesnakes similar to what's being described in the op. Also, I've hit a white owl while driving
through a desert back road during the small hours of the night.
Have definitely experienced some high strangeness before and after striking the owl, it's difficult to discuss for me. Does no one else that has experienced such an event get almost nauseated when describing to others personal accounts of this nature?
Have definitely experienced some high strangeness before and after striking the owl, it's difficult to discuss for me. Does no one else that has experienced such an event get almost nauseated when describing to others personal accounts of this nature?
a reply to: Kapusta
It's quite the long story, and I hope you don't take this the wrong way..but if you look through my previous post history, more specifically my introduction, I detail a very interesting encounter a friend and I had a few years ago.
It was what you would call an encounter of the second kind, and I firmly believe had I not acted in a panicked manner they would have landed but either ways I saw it, it's forever burned in my memory and I don't care what anyone says aliens are real.
It's quite the long story, and I hope you don't take this the wrong way..but if you look through my previous post history, more specifically my introduction, I detail a very interesting encounter a friend and I had a few years ago.
It was what you would call an encounter of the second kind, and I firmly believe had I not acted in a panicked manner they would have landed but either ways I saw it, it's forever burned in my memory and I don't care what anyone says aliens are real.
Well that is an interesting story. Would definately go and do a hypnosis session. I just dont know why aliens must kidnapp us that way feels totally
evil in nature. I wonder what they do exactly with the abductees...
a reply to: Aliensun
Please elaborate.
I've also encountered a big eye.
It was late. I was a kid, maybe nine or ten at the time.
When you are being watched, you subconsciously look in the direction of the observer. It is an amazing self defense mechanism.
My mother lived in an apartment on the first floor. She was working midnights, so I could stay up as late as I wanted. Also, it was the summer and school was out.
I was sitting in a chair against a wall with the tv on another wall to my left. On the opposite wall of the tv was a sliding door with vertical, 3-4 inch blinds, you know those standard white ones? A few in from the right, one had been caught on something so there was a crack in the blinds. You could see out the bottom. I would say a 6 inch gap at the bottom growing closed as it traveled up maybe 2 feet, like a pizza slice.
(I'm getting goosebumps right now)
For what ever reason, I looked at the crack and there it was. An eye.
An eye the size of a tennis ball, an easy 3 inches in diameter.
It looked human, it was blue with dark blue lines coming out from the pupil. I couldn't see any white of the eye, just the iris. I stared at it for what felt like minutes. Then I called for my sister (down the hall. The chair was sitatuated right beside the hallway, so the hallway was behind me). She didn't respond. (The hallway was around 15 feet to the bedroom door) I turned my head to yell her name (at this point I was terrified and on the brink of tears). She answered. I called her out and she came.
When I turned my head back to the sliding door.
The eye was gone.
Please elaborate.
I've also encountered a big eye.
It was late. I was a kid, maybe nine or ten at the time.
When you are being watched, you subconsciously look in the direction of the observer. It is an amazing self defense mechanism.
My mother lived in an apartment on the first floor. She was working midnights, so I could stay up as late as I wanted. Also, it was the summer and school was out.
I was sitting in a chair against a wall with the tv on another wall to my left. On the opposite wall of the tv was a sliding door with vertical, 3-4 inch blinds, you know those standard white ones? A few in from the right, one had been caught on something so there was a crack in the blinds. You could see out the bottom. I would say a 6 inch gap at the bottom growing closed as it traveled up maybe 2 feet, like a pizza slice.
(I'm getting goosebumps right now)
For what ever reason, I looked at the crack and there it was. An eye.
An eye the size of a tennis ball, an easy 3 inches in diameter.
It looked human, it was blue with dark blue lines coming out from the pupil. I couldn't see any white of the eye, just the iris. I stared at it for what felt like minutes. Then I called for my sister (down the hall. The chair was sitatuated right beside the hallway, so the hallway was behind me). She didn't respond. (The hallway was around 15 feet to the bedroom door) I turned my head to yell her name (at this point I was terrified and on the brink of tears). She answered. I called her out and she came.
When I turned my head back to the sliding door.
The eye was gone.
edit on 6-7-2015 by bluetrees because: (no reason given)
So. This being the Gray Area...
I believe strongly from a hell of a lot of astral projection, scrying, trance, reading the works of others, and my own personal occult experimentation that there are something like snags in the fabric of reality, where our universe touches a parallel one, or timelines get distorted and cross themselves, and that these abnormalities in reality can and often do snake about all nimbly bimbly and pop up in random times and places for no clear reason whatsoever. At the right place, at the right time, there will occur, as someone put it, "high strangeness", just as described by your people, OP. Gods know how many people have been swooped upon by that same owl in different places, at different times, and been slightly displaced in time for it. Gods know how that owl got trapped in what basically amounts to a temporal wormhole, too. Poor thing. I believe that future scientific discoveries will prove me right.
Anyway, I cannot discredit the story you have presented, because it presents all the hallmarks of a legitimate experience with...whatever you want to call this phenomenon.
My explanations range from stuff ancient humans did around 150 kya, to failed time/space travel experiments in the future, to possibly aliens, to maybe the universe is just weird as hell on its own.
I believe strongly from a hell of a lot of astral projection, scrying, trance, reading the works of others, and my own personal occult experimentation that there are something like snags in the fabric of reality, where our universe touches a parallel one, or timelines get distorted and cross themselves, and that these abnormalities in reality can and often do snake about all nimbly bimbly and pop up in random times and places for no clear reason whatsoever. At the right place, at the right time, there will occur, as someone put it, "high strangeness", just as described by your people, OP. Gods know how many people have been swooped upon by that same owl in different places, at different times, and been slightly displaced in time for it. Gods know how that owl got trapped in what basically amounts to a temporal wormhole, too. Poor thing. I believe that future scientific discoveries will prove me right.
Anyway, I cannot discredit the story you have presented, because it presents all the hallmarks of a legitimate experience with...whatever you want to call this phenomenon.
My explanations range from stuff ancient humans did around 150 kya, to failed time/space travel experiments in the future, to possibly aliens, to maybe the universe is just weird as hell on its own.
edit on 6-7-2015 by Phototropic because: that poor owl
originally posted by: Ashirah
I grew up in Arizona, I've seen bizarre behavior in rattlesnakes similar to what's being described in the op. Also, I've hit a white owl while driving through a desert back road during the small hours of the night.
Have definitely experienced some high strangeness before and after striking the owl, it's difficult to discuss for me. Does no one else that has experienced such an event get almost nauseated when describing to others personal accounts of this nature?
I don't necessarily want to make you talk about something that makes you uncomfortable, but you are the third person in this thread to have had a vehicular collision with possibly the same white owl at different points in space and time, and had an unusual experience because of the encounter. I would like to hear your story.
a reply to: Kapusta
I will have to chime in with the others regarding the owl. A white owl is a typical "screen memory" in close encounters. Deer, rabbits and cats are common too. Sometimes, especially under hypnosis, if you ask the witness to describe the owl, what they describe is not an owl at all. The screen memory is our own mind's way to make logical sense of the unexplainable. It creates a mask of something familiar to overcome the fear. Something else pale with big eyes. As Rene said, "they tried to forget because they couldn't understand it."
This is also common, that witnesses just nonchalantly sort of "forget" about the incident afterwards, and never talk about it. Then much later they will reminisce about the incident and find it odd in retrospect, that they didn't talk about it afterwards as would be typical human nature. The mind has a way of blocking out things we are not equipped to deal with. Alien craft are replaced with rainbows, and odd beings with familiar ones.
I strongly suggest that you do not coerce the witnesses to pursue hypnosis. If something happened to them during those hours of missing time, they may have buried that memory. Not everyone is emotionally equipped to uncover the information that is buried in their subconscious. They might not consciously feel there is more to the story. Allow them to remain ignorant. Let them decide on their own that they think there is more to the story, and if they want to pursue it. Because once you open up that can of worms, you cant unknow it. Is this woman and her elderly mother prepared to have everything they feel they know about reality turned on its side?
Ask her to tell the story, and ask for details and descriptions, sights, sounds, smells, sizes, etc. But dont suggest anything that is not stated. Describe this rainbow in the total darkness... did it arc across the whole sky... did it light the ground below it...? Describe the owl, its size, its face, it's wings??? Describe what happened after it swooped past the windshield. Have her sketch the owl.
The beeping sounds are another commonly reported detail. The incident sounds like the typical alien encounter scenario.
On a side note: I was once cleaning out my kid's goldfish tank, and pondering the fishes point of view. He was just swimming in his tank, when suddenly something from another world came down from above and scooped him up and out of his world. He found himself in a very sterile, plain, round, unfamiliar room. Odd beings looked down on him. The next thing he knew, he was back home, and everything was normal again. And those beings never even asked his permission to take him on that journey!
We may be like that goldfish, living in our own little world, unaware that our great big universe is just a tiny part of something much bigger, and far beyond our understanding.
I will have to chime in with the others regarding the owl. A white owl is a typical "screen memory" in close encounters. Deer, rabbits and cats are common too. Sometimes, especially under hypnosis, if you ask the witness to describe the owl, what they describe is not an owl at all. The screen memory is our own mind's way to make logical sense of the unexplainable. It creates a mask of something familiar to overcome the fear. Something else pale with big eyes. As Rene said, "they tried to forget because they couldn't understand it."
This is also common, that witnesses just nonchalantly sort of "forget" about the incident afterwards, and never talk about it. Then much later they will reminisce about the incident and find it odd in retrospect, that they didn't talk about it afterwards as would be typical human nature. The mind has a way of blocking out things we are not equipped to deal with. Alien craft are replaced with rainbows, and odd beings with familiar ones.
I strongly suggest that you do not coerce the witnesses to pursue hypnosis. If something happened to them during those hours of missing time, they may have buried that memory. Not everyone is emotionally equipped to uncover the information that is buried in their subconscious. They might not consciously feel there is more to the story. Allow them to remain ignorant. Let them decide on their own that they think there is more to the story, and if they want to pursue it. Because once you open up that can of worms, you cant unknow it. Is this woman and her elderly mother prepared to have everything they feel they know about reality turned on its side?
Ask her to tell the story, and ask for details and descriptions, sights, sounds, smells, sizes, etc. But dont suggest anything that is not stated. Describe this rainbow in the total darkness... did it arc across the whole sky... did it light the ground below it...? Describe the owl, its size, its face, it's wings??? Describe what happened after it swooped past the windshield. Have her sketch the owl.
The beeping sounds are another commonly reported detail. The incident sounds like the typical alien encounter scenario.
On a side note: I was once cleaning out my kid's goldfish tank, and pondering the fishes point of view. He was just swimming in his tank, when suddenly something from another world came down from above and scooped him up and out of his world. He found himself in a very sterile, plain, round, unfamiliar room. Odd beings looked down on him. The next thing he knew, he was back home, and everything was normal again. And those beings never even asked his permission to take him on that journey!
We may be like that goldfish, living in our own little world, unaware that our great big universe is just a tiny part of something much bigger, and far beyond our understanding.
I am sharing first without reading anyone else's response. I will relate my wife's exlperience, actually two, one I shared after going to bed one
evening.
I live in a valley in the summer called pleasant valley and just up the hill and over the hill, it drops back down into another valley, we call that the hogs back, being rather high. I used to cut power on my plane and glide that slope to the next valley, and just at he bottom is a town.
Now well before we married, she had a former spouse whom was in this town, waiting for her to pick him up, an easy ten minutes from the top of the hogs back hill. She tells me it was night and they were starting to make the trip down whem suddenly the car was enveloped in light, like a helocoptor hovering over the car. So what happened I asked. She responded, nothing we got lost and John was furious as he had to wait over two hours while they were lost.
Not matter how I questioned her, she could not remember how they got lost, where she drove to, only a lame explanation of I got lost. She only remembers driving down the hill with the light interupting the trip and a ten minute finish taking over two hours.
The last one was only a few years ago, I was there in bed, we lost 45 minutes as I did a count down meditation to go to sleep. Wife started mumbling of being scared, they were taking her alone that night and we always wer takey together. According to her, they were waiting for her to settle down and sleep. We both glanced at the clock and wer shocked to find that 45 mnutes had passed in what seemed like only a minute or so from saying good night.
I live in a valley in the summer called pleasant valley and just up the hill and over the hill, it drops back down into another valley, we call that the hogs back, being rather high. I used to cut power on my plane and glide that slope to the next valley, and just at he bottom is a town.
Now well before we married, she had a former spouse whom was in this town, waiting for her to pick him up, an easy ten minutes from the top of the hogs back hill. She tells me it was night and they were starting to make the trip down whem suddenly the car was enveloped in light, like a helocoptor hovering over the car. So what happened I asked. She responded, nothing we got lost and John was furious as he had to wait over two hours while they were lost.
Not matter how I questioned her, she could not remember how they got lost, where she drove to, only a lame explanation of I got lost. She only remembers driving down the hill with the light interupting the trip and a ten minute finish taking over two hours.
The last one was only a few years ago, I was there in bed, we lost 45 minutes as I did a count down meditation to go to sleep. Wife started mumbling of being scared, they were taking her alone that night and we always wer takey together. According to her, they were waiting for her to settle down and sleep. We both glanced at the clock and wer shocked to find that 45 mnutes had passed in what seemed like only a minute or so from saying good night.
originally posted by: and14263
a reply to: Kapusta
An amazing and unique experience - and they all chose not to talk about it so they could forget all about it? Yeah right. Nice story but she's having you away.
As a Skeptic my self and having knowing these people for many many years . I can honestly say with certainty that this woman and her mother are telling the truth .
I am not here to convince anyone of the truth i saw in their eyes but rather share their story and hopefully find some answers .
Kap
We are in a video game. The same thing happened to me but without the owl, rainbow streak and the snake. The account was with one person and myself.
When I saw him in the hallway - he went past me. But when I entered my room he was leaving out of my room. This happened about 3 times at the place
I was at, but with different accounts. You are not alone on this one.
a reply to: 321equinox
Does this relate to the accounts I have read of native Americans not being able to see the ships when the English came?
Does this relate to the accounts I have read of native Americans not being able to see the ships when the English came?
a reply to: Kapusta
...a movie called "The Fourth kind" was made about alien abductions in Nome Alaska ...
In short the premise was multiple alien abductions and the "White Owl" (which each abductee saw) was a cognitive place-holder for things that our consciousness can not or will not reconcile...aka...your brain screams WTF is that when it is suddenly confronted with an alien and then chooses to file it away as "White Owl" in memory...Why White Owl? Perhaps because it fits the nearest description of reality..large eyes and pale face..or perhaps the aliens themselves choose that totem as a place holder in and abductees conscientiousness?
en.wikipedia.org...
BUT...that movie was PURE FICTION, despite the marketing campaign that accompanied it and tried to convince people it was based on real events.
The "White Owl" thing is what is in common.
...a movie called "The Fourth kind" was made about alien abductions in Nome Alaska ...
In short the premise was multiple alien abductions and the "White Owl" (which each abductee saw) was a cognitive place-holder for things that our consciousness can not or will not reconcile...aka...your brain screams WTF is that when it is suddenly confronted with an alien and then chooses to file it away as "White Owl" in memory...Why White Owl? Perhaps because it fits the nearest description of reality..large eyes and pale face..or perhaps the aliens themselves choose that totem as a place holder in and abductees conscientiousness?
Tyler tapes hypnotherapy sessions with three different patients, all of whom have the same experience: every night they see a white owl staring at them through their windows.
Tyler puts two of the three patients under hypnosis, and while under, both patients recount similar terrifying stories of creatures attempting to enter their homes.
en.wikipedia.org...
BUT...that movie was PURE FICTION, despite the marketing campaign that accompanied it and tried to convince people it was based on real events.
The "White Owl" thing is what is in common.
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