Stockmarket has 2-3 months at most.

a reply to: khnum

There is nothing logical to base a prediction of a US collapse on. Suckers have been believing it for years anyhow. Confused fantasies about how economies work and gullibility seem to be the primary drivers. I'm OK with it though. I may be small time, but i still do well with my investments by doing the opposite of what the unknowing masses think.

a reply to: Ultralight

I know you know something, I just don't get how you know it.

originally posted by: khnum
a reply to: SubTruth

When people like porn stars start giving stock tips its time to get out of the market as for FIAT watch Europe

All currencies today are fiat with central banking control..........It can not last......It will fail. Look at the steady climb of inflation in the US. The lower wage earners are basically screwed and are having huge issues paying the rent and buying food. This is real and this is coming.


I believe the crash can be avoided with another round of easing but they have to do it fast. If they wait until the fall the economy will crash I believe. Many industries are doing shutdowns and temporary layoffs hoping the tide will turn for the better..........FED we need more money and we need it fast.


That money inflow is only a temporary fix and eventually the piper will be paid.

originally posted by: Ultralight
a reply to: BELIEVERpriest

What if I know something YOU don't....and I do.

What if I know you know I know you know something I don't know?

a reply to: admirethedistance

I don't speak to specific dates because they can change.

a reply to: Ultralight

I know everyone should buy freekin food

a reply to: khnum

Stocks are most likely a better and faster way to get screwed ...

a reply to: infolurker


Everyone should remain calm and begin moving money out of their banks.

a reply to: Ultralight

Im in Australia does this riddle within a mystery apply to me too,Ive paid my cards off now only have the home loan and have a few bucks in the bank but that can be moved to a mattress.

You only lose if you invest wrong. No such thing as quick money. Invest long term. Quick money = karma biting you soon after.

originally posted by: khnum
a reply to: Ultralight

Im in Australia does this riddle within a mystery apply to me too,Ive paid my cards off now only have the home loan and have a few bucks in the bank but that can be moved to a mattress.

Australia, has been cooling off for a while, I suppose, it will impact the mining in W.A. Might be best to get a Gov. paid job, like Nursing teaching etc.

a reply to: Ultralight

I think something has been planned for a long time, when you think about the economics of debt etc., its not rocket science to predict possible outcomes. Especially with regards to the level of debt, and the ability to maintain income to pay the interest. Look at how back in the eighties they handed out credit cards, with loan shark repayment rates. So what happens now, when their are no jobs to service the accrued national debt level on a personal basis? It looks like full employment is a thing of the past, and becoming more so as automation takes over, the more automation, the less jobs to earn money to pay for the goods made by automation. It seems that its a declining spiral, of contraction, which will reach a tipping point.

Capitalism, is by its nature expansionist , it relies on growth. Which is just not going to happen, all potential markets, are in the same recession, crippled by real time shrinking economies.

a reply to: Ultralight

Why?

a reply to: khnum

Hell Yeah!
With a Playmate of The Year
spinning around the offices,
they are gonna pop for sure.

HooHaa!

That's what happens to a bunch of dickheads.

No one is predicting a stock market crash just for the heck of it.The numbers do not lie that we will crash.It is simple math that this cannot go on with debt that is so insanely out of control it is nuts.

Their is absolute reason and certainty that the stock market will crash adding up the debt and the collapse of the Euro is going to collapse it.Mathmatics cannot lie over this.

a reply to: khnum

With all of the quantum computers on the "upper end" of the stock market, the lowly investor has little to gain. They buy and sell shares (they: being the ones with the quantum computers) faster than you can even think of trading through your broker!

The global fiat currency finance collapse is coming. I predict it will all switch to digital currency after that. There will be no reserve currency besides the "digital currency" issued by the largest banks like the IMF and select few others. If you're in the markets, it would be your best bet to get out ASAP. Invest in things you are lacking.

Multi-national corporations rule the world at this point. Unless you are a private shareholder there-than investments mean little, no matter where the money is thrown. If you have enough money, buy yourself some assets like property, food, anything that has true value. They may even decide to confiscate those if the collapse becomes a reality worldwide. The best hope at this point is if you are a N.A.S.A. engineer and can build your way to a habitable planet.... Not many will be able to do that. My recommendation is to try to live as happily as you can. The world is changing rapidly. I wonder what it will be like in 100 years ....

The Zios can't beat God who will smash America while the Black Mahdi is POTUS (ref Youtube "Obama Tsunami and Future of USA Dr Green).

I wouldn't bet on it. People are always making these types of predictions, but they never happen. Someone has to be right sometime though.

So should I withdraw all my 401K out and take huge penalty in order to keep my family afloat and avoid risk of losing a lot of money? I've been wanting to do this for years (listening to ATS predictions, of course) but haven't done it yet. Seriously considering doing it.

originally posted by: ramsontop
So should I withdraw all my 401K out and take huge penalty in order to keep my family afloat and avoid risk of losing a lot of money? I've been wanting to do this for years (listening to ATS predictions, of course) but haven't done it yet. Seriously considering doing it.

I think you have to ask is the present economic system sustainable. The main idea that makes it works, is that the credit, lent comes back in interest. Which increases the original amount of cash. But in reality it just inflates the original amount of cash. The illusion that you have actually more cash than you started with, gives you a problem, it has to be lent out again, just to keep even, if its not its falling in value in real terms. Which means at some point , it will be unsustainable.

This having to lend out, caused the Greek economy to tank as it borrowed so much, it couldn't pay that interest back, so had to accrue more loans and debt, just to pay the interest. Squeezing the Greek economy to perform on its loans, in reality eat at the Greek economy, by contracting it , without the hope of any growth. The terminal state of the Greeks, is the same, as all indebted nations, the loans are, causing contraction of their economies . Their is only one way out, and that is bankruptcy. If Bankruptcy occurs, then the lender finds himself in the same state.

Any market is finite, the world economy is finite, , once its gone global, any meltdown will have global consequences. The Greek economy is a distraction from the main problem, which is China. If China coughs the whole world will now get terminal flue. The ability of the Chinese to accrue wealth, without the balance of back trading, seems to part of the historical way China's character does business. They have too much money, this imbalance , is unprecedented, they know this and are holding metals, but having sucked too much money from the worlds money supply, they have committed economic, suicide, because the world is running out of money to buy their goods, and the same as Greece, will end up with another problem . You can see it in Africa, the Chinese are literally taking it over, because they know that the only way they can pay is by holding the only major asset worth anything,their land , i doubt whether we have seen anything yet.