Polygamist family applies for 2nd marriage license in Montana...

a reply to: Klassified

Next up , Pedophilia Practitioners will Demand the Laws be Changed , others will Demand that they should be Allowed to Marry Animals , and the List goes On after the Can of Worms the SCOTUS opened with their Insane Ruling...........

One of the most important aspects of human evolution is self-control. We must learn to control all the urges we have that drag us down as a species. Being married to one person- learning to love that person, learning to be faithful to that person, learning to forgive that person is a tool for spiritual growth. Polygamy is a distraction from growth.

Sal

a reply to: Klassified

Nothing created by humans is perfect because humans are not perfect.

Sal

originally posted by: [post=19524539]Gryphon66




What do you make of the First Amendment then?

originally posted by: RealTruthSeeker
Isn't it legal in some states? If so, why doesn't he just move there?

Imagine if you'd said that about the gay marriage issue. You'd have been tore apart!

originally posted by: SallieSunshine
One of the most important aspects of human evolution is self-control. We must learn to control all the urges we have that drag us down as a species. Being married to one person- learning to love that person, learning to be faithful to that person, learning to forgive that person is a tool for spiritual growth. Polygamy is a distraction from growth.

Sal

a reply to: Klassified

What a well-phrased opinion ... not everyone shares it.

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: Klassified

Next up , Pedophilia Practitioners will Demand the Laws be Changed , others will Demand that they should be Allowed to Marry Animals , and the List goes On after the Can of Worms the SCOTUS opened with their Insane Ruling...........

Can of worms? Oh yeah, that silly Constitution and the Fourteenth Amendment ... gotcha!

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: Klassified

Next up , Pedophilia Practitioners will Demand the Laws be Changed , others will Demand that they should be Allowed to Marry Animals , and the List goes On after the Can of Worms the SCOTUS opened with their Insane Ruling...........

Nah! Play Tera and make your toon a Elin!

Bet ya 30% of men who are playing that game with an Elin are prime pickings for for the FBI!

Not for nothing? But to compare gay marriage to Pedophilia is like pretty effing low man....

I've yet to see a good argument as to why a person can't marry more than one person.

Well obviously if you're spending all your time having fun with two women then you're not going to have time to be buying a bunch of crap and making business rich, duh.

Oh, and jealousy probably.

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: Klassified
Bigamy is illegal in the U.S.

See? This is the difference. Being gay isn't illegal. This will go nowhere.

Ok, so.... same situation...3 people want to marry gay or straight, same thing as gay marriages that were illegal. If 2 people can marry why not 5? Isn't this the same as saying if a man and woman can marry why not two men?

originally posted by: RealTruthSeeker
Isn't it legal in some states? If so, why doesn't he just move there?

OMFG Where were you last week with this pearl of wisdom?

originally posted by: grandmakdw
To give you all where I really stand:
honestly this time:

This what this entire experience of the past few years has taught me.

To accept and live and let live,

as long as no one is physically harmed by another's actions.

My personal religious or private feelings of right or wrong

are to be kept to myself and to never, ever enter the public arena,

for that is to be judgmental and intolerant.

And I would be roundly criticized and hounded and excoriated
for even mentioning my religious or personal beliefs
regarding sensitive matters like this.


Therefore, whatever people choose to do

as long as it harms no one else

and involves fully informed and consenting adults

must be accepted by me and by society.

That is what many, many here on ATS have said over and over.
Even some of the very same people here now saying
polygamy won't happen.
They are using the same arguments that they
accused others of as being intolerant and bigoted
when the arguments were used against gay marriage.

Like gay marriage, or polygamous marriage? Approve of it?

That is my choice to privately approve or disapprove,
but my private choice

My feeling or religious ideas
should never intrude on another's life choices or lifestyle.
Their choices are their choices and I must respect that.

Have the rest of you not learned this lesson yet,
That is the lesson drilled into me over and over here on ATS,
by some of the very same people decrying polygamy and which I find extremely hypocritical.

You can say how you feel. That is not a problem. You are actually saying how you feel, about multiple issues, by posting the same post over and over. You don't exactly feel this way. This is some bizarre attempt to insult others and derail real discussion on this and to also insinuate that you are somehow forced to say this.

I think the man in the op is brave to want to be with two women at the same time. We can be crazy psycho creatures sometimes and if he want to be married to two women then go for it. I think that if a person wants to be married to more than one person then they should be able to do so. I'm actually kind of jealous of the dude. I can't even get one girl and he's sitting there with two.

It's really no ones business what consenting adults chose to do as long as they aren't harming anyone. It's really starting to get on my nerves how a lot of people fell that everyone around them should yield to their beliefs. Love is a beautiful thing and if you are lucky to find at least one person who can stand to be around you and put up with your nonsense then way to go.

originally posted by: Lipton

originally posted by: RealTruthSeeker
Isn't it legal in some states? If so, why doesn't he just move there?

OMFG Where were you last week with this pearl of wisdom?

Except there was no wisdom in that it isn't legal anywhere in the United States.

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: Klassified

Next up , Pedophilia Practitioners will Demand the Laws be Changed , others will Demand that they should be Allowed to Marry Animals , and the List goes On after the Can of Worms the SCOTUS opened with their Insane Ruling...........

No. These things are not remotely similar. The SCOTUS ruling maintains the basic rules of marriage 2 people of legal age of sound mind. It is same logic the used when striking down interstitial marriage laws. Hetro. Homosexual and interracial sex are not illegal. The fact you try and compare them lack any sore of logical basis. Because any if 2 White Heterosexuals people of sound mind and legal age are allowed to marry the precedent is set for 2 people of different races who are Heterosexuals and of sound mind and legal age to get married or 2 people of the same or different races who are Homosexual and of sound mind and legal age to get married.

This is not rocket science. Trying to toss in children or animals both of which are illegal is foolish and lacks any understanding of law or even basic common sense. And that one would be thinking about getting married to children or animals is pretty disturbing.

Why are people so concerned about who other people are having sex with? Mind your own friggin business!

originally posted by: EternalSolace

originally posted by: Lipton

originally posted by: RealTruthSeeker
Isn't it legal in some states? If so, why doesn't he just move there?

OMFG Where were you last week with this pearl of wisdom?

Except there was no wisdom in that it isn't legal anywhere in the United States.

The poster was being sarcastic.

a reply to: reldra

Society and political correctness demand I think this way
or risk lawsuits
or risk hate mail
or risk death threats

So regardless of my real feelings
society demands we accept all behavior
by everyone, regardless of the behavior
as long as the behavior falls within the purview
of being politically correct
approved of and endorsed by the liberal left

I find it quite hypocritical that the
the same arguments used against gay marriage
that inflamed many of the posters in this thread
are being used against polygamy
by the very people who supported gay marriage

Truthfully, I don't care at all about
someones bedroom choices.
Nor do I care at all whom one
chooses to marry. I really don't.
Gay, who cares, I think all people
should keep their bedroom choices
private,
introduce a spouse, fine, great,
happy for your happy marriage;
but force to me acknowledge and
accept ones bedroom behavior
is gauche, classless, rude and crude.

I find Kim K's; and Miley's flaunting of sexuality
to be crude, rude and classless,
just as I find anyone forcing others
to fully acknowledge and
approve of their preferred sexuality
to be crude, rude and classless

I think it is gauche and rude of
others to make their bedroom
choices extremely public;
and I think it is downright evil
to terrorize (through lawsuits,
death threats, hateful emails, etc)
people into behaving as I said on my post
you object to.

I simply was pointing out that the politically correct
demand this type of thinking by everyone or risk
loss of business
or risk hate mail and death threats.
And you can not say that this is not the tactic currently
being used by the liberal left.

One of my points was to show the extreme measures
and stands that popular culture is forcing everyone
to take in order not to be sued, get hate mail or death threats.

Love the intolerant, extremely judgmental
neo-liberal's who think everyone must believe
exactly as they do,
or else,
because their point of view
is the only correct point of view,
and only what they judge to be good is good,
and what they judge to be bad is bad.
Disagreement not allowed and punished through social action,
and often by hate email, death threats, loss of job or business.

How hypocritical of the neo-liberals

who supported gay marriage

to now decry polygamy!

When neither harms anyone as long as
all participants are fully consenting adults.
That is the height
of neo-liberal hypocrisy.

And why are many neo-liberals in a panty wad
over it? Because the people who disagreed
with gay marriage
(not me) said it would lead to polygamy, which it will.
They are humiliated that as soon as gay marriage
became legal, people filed for the court to allow
polygamy, because they declared this would not happen.
To humiliate a neo-liberal is the height of forbidden
action in today's politically correct world.

Again, I don't care if someone is gay, live and let live in peace.

By extension,

I really don't care what others do

as long as

they let all others live and let live in peace

AND do not seek to punish those who simply disagree with their private lives;

AND, allow others to live and let live in peace whose
actions compel no one to believe what they do;
(not thoughts/speech/or religious bent but actions,
allowing people without fear
of punishment through social action
to freely believe and speak as they wish religiously
politically, and morally - as long as they do not actually harm anyone;
and offending someone is not harming them)

AND their actions do not persecute
those who disagree
with their point of view religious, political or personal;

AND all actions engaged in are done by fully
consenting adults.

Live and let live in peace and behave peacefully and respectfully towards others regardless of
of their religious/political/personal private ideas.

But allowing people to freely express their religious,
political or personal views is now forbidden
by the liberal left and politically correct, if it in any way
might hurt someones feelings
or is in disagreement with their current and popularly held point of view.
And is enforced by hate mail, death threats, job loss and loss of business.
That is intolerant, judgmental, totalitarian and fascist behavior.

a reply to: Annee

I was born and raised in Utah. I'm willing to bet that I know as much, if not more, about mormons than you do.

originally posted by: Lipton
As for your comparison of a marriage license to a contract, you do realize you can have more than two parties sign a contract, right?

Yeah. You need witnesses. They aren't part of the agreement though.

How dare you kudge their love. BIGOT!

Bigot?

a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group)

www.merriam-webster.com...

I don't care one way or the other about them marrying. I'm pointing out the LAW. I would think you wouldn't get it though. You couldn't get one word, "bigot", right. No worries.

originally posted by: NotTooHappy
a reply to: Annee

I was born and raised in Utah. I'm willing to bet that I know as much, if not more, about mormons than you do.

And that's why you come off as anti-Mormon?

There is a lot of hatred of Mormons in Utah by non-Mormons. So, no.