From gay marriage to polygamy?

originally posted by: Mugly
a reply to: Krazysh0t

but wont that open the door for people to marry animals or something?
that is usually where the gay marriage discussion winds up before too long

edit*
wow.
mentioned on the first page

Also, refuted on the first page.

a reply to: ketsuko

Yes, we've already gone over that. Children can't make consent and incestuous relationships result in defect babies. They shouldn't be legalized. There are clear, scientific reasons why it can't be done.

originally posted by: BinaryGreyArea

originally posted by: introvert
Incest is illegal. Homosexuality is not.

It used to be, therefore clearly what is illegal and what is not can be changed.

Again why don't you just support making incest legal, but childbearing from it illegal?

Do you think the current fact that incest is illegal is preventing it from happening? Why prevent an incest couple that never reproduces from enjoying the same benefits as a gay couple? They've caused no harm.

Stealing and murder happen still despite them being illegal. That doesn't mean we should legalize them.

a reply to: Klassified

It is the same as if a person has a child and they already have more children then they can financially or emotionally care for. In these cases they state will typically intervene and raise the children or place them up for adoption.

So if they cannot care for these children, why are they having them?

Are we now to implement a national registry to have people apply whether or not they can have children based on the potential success of NOT having a birth defect?

Government should not be in any marriage. There should not be any marriages, just rampant unhindered love for everyone and everything on the planet.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: BinaryGreyArea

originally posted by: introvert
Incest is illegal. Homosexuality is not.

It used to be, therefore clearly what is illegal and what is not can be changed.

Again why don't you just support making incest legal, but childbearing from it illegal?

Do you think the current fact that incest is illegal is preventing it from happening? Why prevent an incest couple that never reproduces from enjoying the same benefits as a gay couple? They've caused no harm.

Stealing and murder happen still despite them being illegal. That doesn't mean we should legalize them.

Stealing is legal. It is know as taxes.
Murder is legal. It is know as war.

originally posted by: BinaryGreyArea

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
Yes, we've already gone over that. Children can't make consent and incestuous relationships result in defect babies. They shouldn't be legalized. There are clear, scientific reasons why it can't be done.

So do you think homosexual incest couples should be denied access to marriage because of the risk factor inherent in hetero incest couples?

I already answered this question the first time you asked it.

Here, in case you don't remember the page it was on:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

originally posted by: Doom and Gloom

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: BinaryGreyArea

originally posted by: introvert
Incest is illegal. Homosexuality is not.

It used to be, therefore clearly what is illegal and what is not can be changed.

Again why don't you just support making incest legal, but childbearing from it illegal?

Do you think the current fact that incest is illegal is preventing it from happening? Why prevent an incest couple that never reproduces from enjoying the same benefits as a gay couple? They've caused no harm.

Stealing and murder happen still despite them being illegal. That doesn't mean we should legalize them.

Stealing is legal. It is know as taxes.
Murder is legal. It is know as war.

These are irrelevant to the topic at hand. No one here is a system of governance. We are all individuals, so comparing the actions of a person to the actions of a government is a red herring.

originally posted by: BinaryGreyArea

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
Stealing and murder happen still despite them being illegal. That doesn't mean we should legalize them.

Sure, but if we've legalized homosexuality... on what grounds can we justify keeping homosexual and sterile incest illegal?

Legalized homosexuality? Homosexuality hasn't been criminalized for a while now.

a reply to: BinaryGreyArea

Homosexuality and incest are two VERY different things with VERY different results attached to them. You have to analyze them separately and in a vacuum.

originally posted by: BinaryGreyArea

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
I already answered this question the first time you asked it.

Understood.

So it's more important to you to discriminate against people who do not pose the risk you are concerned about in order to maintain an idealism of equality on paper.

I wouldn't say it's more important to do this. I just feel that would be the best solution given the situation.

a reply to: Krazysh0t
Love is Love. Regardless of results attached to them.

a reply to: Doom and Gloom

Yea, well some love has to remain forbidden.

Look, I see what you and BinaryGreyArea are trying to do, but do you realize that we can literally attempt this same argument for ANY moral in society? There are no defined morals in nature. The TRUE law of nature is "Do what thou will". That's it, but society has determined some standards to abide by to keep the most people happy.

OUR society has decided that people should have freedom to do what they want, provided it doesn't affect you and yours. When you start introducing victims into the equation, then the arguments for the freedom in question go out the window. THAT is how our society works. And frankly, the arguments for what you are pitching ALL have victims attached to them. There is no way around that. It goes against American ideals to victimize someone for someone else's benefit.

a reply to: BinaryGreyArea

Fine. Legalize homosexual incest. That's what you want me to say right? So do it. To me, it's the same thing, but hey if you want to split hairs so thoroughly, I don't have a way to refute you.

originally posted by: Darth_Prime
a reply to: Doom and Gloom

This is the most tired argument anyone can have, it's laughable at best anyone actually thinks that Same-Sex Marriage could lead to Animal-Marriage

geez...you expected something different from the extreme right?....