Pentagon wants a drug so that soldiers don't feel fear of death.

yes sir,
ten foot tall and bullet proof is the way to go.

a reply to: PredatorCrackling

They already have the no remorse drug, combine it with the no fear of death and we have a true remorseless fighting machine.

By the way DARPAs biotech guys are working on making it so soldiers can eat anything even grass to live.



Darpa is also working on some drugs which simulate estrogen which would make it so soldiers wont die of bloodloss so they will be like zombies too.

Give them some Lariam. You'll have all the killing you want.

a reply to: Silcone Synapse

Sounds good to me! Can you imagine the system if the Pentagon funded the production..

a reply to: PredatorCrackling

The Japanese used to dope up their Kamikaze suicide pilots, so they would "complete" their missions.

a reply to: HUMBLEONE

Nazis used far more than amphetamines.

originally posted by: HUMBLEONE
The Nazis used amphetamines. I guess we've reached that level of depravity.

US soldiers in Vietnam used marijuana and heroin. What's the difference?

originally posted by: ProleUK
It seems counter productive. Spend time and money training a soldier to fight, only for him or her to get killed due to the absence of fear making them take decisions in the heat of battle, that will probably get themselves and their comrad5 killed.

Doses of fear is a good thing imo.

Take away their fear by using the drug, and then train them to survive.

This drug is a perfect idea. Soldiers are human robots, except that there is a bug in the software....fear and emotion.

This is more or less achievable through a relatively low daily dose of Paxil.
You will have to start the soldiers at least three, preferably six months before full effectiveness.
Humans need time to get used to the way their new brain works.
It's also important that you explain that "this is a drug that will change you, let it."
Then they will embrace their calm bravery, be proud of it.

To a degree, other anti-depressants would have similar effects, but only Paxil people will say and do anything, calmly.
Including kill themselves, so watch out for that.

Anyway, you probably already know this Army, have fun with trials.

What about a drug that makes the enemy not care about starting up conflicts?

Seems to me that would be the more logical option.

originally posted by: ProleUK
It seems counter productive. Spend time and money training a soldier to fight, only for him or her to get killed due to the absence of fear making them take decisions in the heat of battle, that will probably get themselves and their comrad5 killed.

Doses of fear is a good thing imo.

... I ... have a sneaking suspicion that this is intended to be used on Drone Pilots, not on Ground Pounders.

The Rangers and Marines average a 50:1 kill ratio using caution, interlocking fields of fire, and comms. Fearlessness would actually hurt. The kill ratio would drop. But the stories of Drone Pilots who develop debilitating emotional problems have gotten out. I can see how the Pentagon would see a drug that reduces anxiety and fear as very useful in the case of Drone Pilots.

Check for yourself: just drop the words "drone pilot problems" into any search engine.


Not that I approve, of the Pentagons approach, in any way.


Mike Grouchy

originally posted by: Kuroodo

originally posted by: ProleUK
It seems counter productive. Spend time and money training a soldier to fight, only for him or her to get killed due to the absence of fear making them take decisions in the heat of battle, that will probably get themselves and their comrad5 killed.

Doses of fear is a good thing imo.

Take away their fear by using the drug, and then train them to survive.

This drug is a perfect idea. Soldiers are human robots, except that there is a bug in the software....fear and emotion.

it doesnt work that way.........unless your just going to send wave upon wave upon wave.....and thats just not a combat strategy anymore, this isnt Rome

As a former combat soldier I can tell you that someone without any fear at all is the first to get a bullet in the head.....

Its the fear of leaving your family behind and never seeing your loved ones faces , and fear for the life of the man beside you that wins battles .....

Heroism and overcoming unimaginable odds doesnt come from lack of fear.......

originally posted by: GENERAL EYES
What about a drug that makes the enemy not care about starting up conflicts?

Seems to me that would be the more logical option.

You have no idea how many times I've longed for this, but I guess it would be considered 'chemical warfare'.

dp

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: HUMBLEONE
The Nazis used amphetamines. I guess we've reached that level of depravity.

US soldiers in Vietnam used marijuana and heroin. What's the difference?

And took L S D constantly.

Wow modafinil is being considered. I think troops should be on smartdrugs. I know in myself the noopept will make me more logical and less emotional. Fear isn't gone, but it's put in better perspective. I think that would do the trick for some.

originally posted by: GENERAL EYES
What about a drug that makes the enemy not care about starting up conflicts?

Seems to me that would be the more logical option.

The pentagon already tried this starting in the early 60's with 3-quinuclidinylbenzilate, better known as BZ. It didn't quite work out as planned for anyone.

pages.uoregon.edu...

WEED !
It works great to get rid of fear.
ALSO gives you MUNCHIES so I guess there's give and take...

a reply to: briantaylor

If their brain chemestry isn't spacifically impaired, they can have snap backs that can cause issues.