Bree Newsome Speaks On Cutting Down Flag at SC Capitol

Publicity stunt, attention grabber, a Rosa Parks wannabe.

The Confederate Flag is not being flown atop the capitol statehouse. It was not first resurrected to be used as a racist statement by the KKK.

The flag was installed for the opening of the Civil War centennial on April 11, 1961. Fifteen years ago, it was removed from the capitol dome and placed where it should be: On the building's grounds that is home to several monuments. On the north side is the Confederate Monument which has a flagpole flying a traditional version of the Confederate battle flag. On the east side, there is an African-American history monument.

The South shares their history with their black brothers and sisters. Many blacks are just as infuriated over all the tripe to remove flags, monuments, honors, graves, rename streets, hospitals, parks, etc. as the whites are.

Yep...nothing but a Rosa Parks wannabe. She doesn't have the right stuff, imo....nor the right reason.

a reply to: Spiramirabilis

And if someone would have asked me who most likely would feel it deeply too, I would say you.

It is important to remember that our struggle doesn’t end when the flag comes down. The Confederacy is a southern thing, but white supremacy is not. Our generation has taken up the banner to fight battles many thought were won long ago. We must fight with all vigor now so that our grandchildren aren’t still fighting these battles in another 50 years. Black Lives Matter. This is non-negotiable. Read more: bluenationreview.com...

I think it's obvious now, or should be that the Civil Rights movement isn't over... that it had been paused and is now un-paused and that we should never let it pause again until equality is a reality for everyone.

a reply to: queenofswords

The flag was installed for the opening of the Civil War centennial on April 11, 1961

So they say. That's an awfully long celebration don't you think... 55 years?

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: queenofswords

The flag was installed for the opening of the Civil War centennial on April 11, 1961

So they say. That's an awfully long celebration don't you think... 55 years?

Kali, the flag is now on the grounds where several monuments are located including an African-American history monument. It is not waving gloriously atop the capitol building. Give it a rest already. The Civil War is part of American History and the South is part of that history. Let it be....speaking words of wisdom....let it be.

a reply to: Kali74

Do you wish to ignore or hide history?

It's funny that so many people have nothing better to do than bitch about something that's been sitting there for 150 years.
Does this mean others can tell us what our own symbols mean?
It's kinda scary that people can arbitrarily decide what parts of our history we get to keep.

Btw folks, only 5% of Southerners owned slaves.
The other 95% deserve to be vilified because.....?

They aren't stopping at the flag, they want to erase all public memory of the Confederacy.
Some want to dig up graves, remove statues and rename streets and schools.
Even the Dukes of Hazard are taking the flag off the freaking car?
You know this is going way out of hand,
Give an inch they will take a mile.

Don't worry about our flag girl, she won't go to prison and she will get celebrity status.
She'll be on all the talk shows and people will be out there desecrating monuments and statues thanks to her inspiration.

We need to draw the line at the flag. Anything else is opening the door to having a big chunk of our history thrown away.

We can keep whatever symbols we want in this country.
It's called the 1st Amendment.
You say it's racist.
I say it isn't.
Let's call it a draw.

originally posted by: RealTruthSeeker
Great story. They should take it down every time they raise it back up. I want to see if they will go through the trouble of posting guards to protect it, if they do, then we will know that they still believe in that stuff hard core.

Imagine protecting public property!
We should tell the government about that idea.

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: yuppa

She went about it the wrong way is all i am saying.

Is Civil Disobedience always wrong?

Not in my book. It wasn't violent - and she made a powerful statement

She also knew what she was getting into

She could had been disobediant lawfully like MLK did. the only thing she did was catch a charge and a short prison sentence. Shes lucky the guard didnt tase her and make her fall and break her fool neck. Say... thats a idea lol.

a reply to: beezzer

My position on the flag has been repeated over and over. It belongs in a museum and on personal property. Why is it so hard for some people to talk about Bree Newsome's statement? That's the topic of the thread.

a reply to: Kali74

Nice! Finally some peaceful civil disobedience for once! Why has it always been that the civil disobedience in the news we usually see is violent these days? The hippies got so much more done by having peaceful protests. African Americans got so much more done by having peaceful protests. See! This is how you enact change by breaking the law.

a reply to: beezzer

Do you wish to ignore or hide history?

What an ironic question

a reply to: queenofswords

Publicity stunt, attention grabber, a Rosa Parks wannabe.

Who are your heroes Ms. Sword?

a reply to: yuppa

I love when people use MLK as an example of how things should have been done - lawfully:

Letter from a Birmingham Jail

I submit that an individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and willingly accepts the penalty by staying in jail to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the very highest respect for law.

You should educate yourself. Read the full letter if you want to understand what people are talking about

Shes lucky the guard didnt tase her and make her fall and break her fool neck. Say... thats a idea lol.

What a despicable example of good citizenry

You've made your true point

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: beezzer

My position on the flag has been repeated over and over. It belongs in a museum and on personal property. Why is it so hard for some people to talk about Bree Newsome's statement? That's the topic of the thread.

That's funny because here's what you said on another thread:

It should be burned. People all over the US did that today and will next Saturday too. Look for an event near you.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

That was your original position. The first post you made on that thread was to burn the flag, not put it in a museum.

i think the government loves this every is so bussie arguing over a flag wile they
do any old thing they want oo like driving the whole country into the ground at 90 mph

a reply to: Khaleesi

That was your original position. The first post you made on that thread was to burn the flag, not put it in a museum.

Did you think there was only one? :-)

Burn the freaking thing - no problem. Burn a thousand of them. There will still be more to display in appropriate places - including from your front porch if that's what you want

You only see inconsistency here because you're thinking literally - not symbolically

Why go out of your way to call someone a hypocrite before you actually spend a little time thinking about what they're saying?

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: Khaleesi

That was your original position. The first post you made on that thread was to burn the flag, not put it in a museum.

Did you think there was only one? :-)

Burn the freaking thing - no problem. Burn a thousand of them. There will still be more to display in appropriate places - including from your front porch if that's what you want

You only see inconsistency here because you're thinking literally - not symbolically

Why go out of your way to call someone a hypocrite before you actually spend a little time thinking about what they're saying?

Positions and opinions can evolve but please don't insult people's intelligence by implying (yes, IMPLYING) that your position has always been to put it in a museum.

a reply to: Khaleesi

Positions and opinions can evolve but please don't insult people's intelligence by implying (yes, IMPLYING) that your position has always been to put it in a museum.

Don't make the mistake of thinking that when she called for the burning of the flag that she meant that it should be banned - or eliminated

That shows some very selective thinking on your part. If you don't want to understand this - that's up to you. But - in that case it's you that's not being honest. Not intellectually honest - or nice for that matter

Your need to call someone a liar is very telling. It doesn't aid your position. This only makes it possible for you not to have to explain your position

The flag is an idea Ms. Khaleesi

We are in the realm of ideas now. You will have to work quite a bit harder at calling someone a liar in here. Make no mistake - others will be quick to call you a liar if your thinking doesn't line up nice and neat in an easily digestible row of consumable - ideas

So, now - what is your issue with this woman that removed the flag?

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: Khaleesi

Positions and opinions can evolve but please don't insult people's intelligence by implying (yes, IMPLYING) that your position has always been to put it in a museum.

Don't make the mistake of thinking that when she called for the burning of the flag that she meant that it should be banned - or eliminated

That shows some very selective thinking on your part. If you don't want to understand this - that's up to you. But - in that case it's you that's not being honest. Not intellectually honest - or nice for that matter

So you would prefer that I pretend to read minds? I take people at their word. It's not selective thinking. It's trusting someone to be honest. Apparently Kali74's position/opinion has changed from burning it to putting it in a museum.

Your need to call someone a liar is very telling. It doesn't hep your position - it makes it possible for you not to have to explain your position

I didn't call Kali a liar. I noticed a shift in position. Don't put words in my mouth. Very telling on your part to feel a need to do so.

The flag is an idea Ms. Khaleesi

We are in the realm of ideas now. You will have to work quite a bit harder at calling someone a liar in here. Make no mistake - others will be quick to call you a liar if your thinking doesn't line up nice and neat in an easily digestible row of consumable - ideas

So, now - what is your issue with this woman that removed the flag?

My issue? Personally, I have no real issue with this woman other than I believe this is something for the people of SC to decide. If I am not mistaken, she is from NC. She has every right to state her opinion about what should be done BUT she is not a citizen of SC.

How many people here believe in states right UNTIL they disagree with a state's law. Then suddenly they believe in federal law over ruling state law. BUT if you disagree with federal law, you suddenly believe in state's rights? It's cognitive dissonance at it's finest. I, personally believe in state's rights even when I disagree with some state laws.

a reply to: Khaleesi

I didn't call Kali a liar.

You did. At least be honest about that and don't chicken out

So you would prefer that I pretend to read minds? I take people at their word. It's not selective thinking. It's trusting someone to be honest. Apparently Kali74's position/opinion has changed from burning it to putting it in a museum.

See? :-)

I would prefer that you yourself be honest - and that you think. What you just posted shows me that this is still not something that you're willing to even try

My issue? Personally, I have no real issue with this woman other than I believe this is something for the people of SC to decide. If I am not mistaken, she is from NC. She has every right to state her opinion about what should be done BUT she is not a citizen of SC.

Did MLK stick to one state - or even respect a states right to do whatever the hell they wanted? Or - is he just a symbol now that state's rights advocates only cough up when it's convenient - and then hide away when he's not?

Like I said before - the flag is an idea. She broke the law - on purpose. Is the idea behind the flag something that goes away if we take down the flag from one symbolic location?

Is the idea behind her civil disobedience something that goes way if she's arrested?