McCain Goes InSane Over Russian Rocket Engines

McCain sure is completely NUTS. Just ut him in power over the White House and soon after he takes office you'll be having a thermocuclear war all over the globe.

That kind of man doesn't have any sense of self-check and self-criticism. He's the stuff of Adolf Hitler.

McCain is probably in the pockets of one of the U.S. manufacturers that's capable of producing rocket engines that are inferior to and more expensive than their Russian counterparts.

Space flight is a massively expensive venture and private companies are going to cut cost especially if they can purchase a superior part while doing so.

When it comes to anything related to the military industrial complex, never trust a Republican.

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The reason they're so expensive is they're having to start from scratch, and are required to use a kerosene based fuel, instead of one of the other fuels that they use for other engines. And they were only given a little over three years to do it.

When the Air Force was told to find an RD-180 replacement the requirement thru were handed was that it had to use the same fuel type. Which means that the two or three engines already well into development can't be used.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
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The reason they're so expensive is they're having to start from scratch, and are required to use a kerosene based fuel, instead of one of the other fuels that they use for other engines. And they were only given a little over three years to do it.

When the Air Force was told to find an RD-180 replacement the requirement thru were handed was that it had to use the same fuel type. Which means that the two or three engines already well into development can't be used.

Sounds like the way our government normally does things.

As for the Russian engines... if they work, and they're cheap, I say we keep using them.

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Pretty much yes. The other problem with new engines is that they have to redesign the rockets and launch systems.

I've been following this and the EELV program. That is going to make the tanker fiasco look like a calm and normal procurement program.

originally posted by: buddha
America is Stupid !
just Look at the size of US?
they should be manufacturing every
thing they need and a Lot more.

it would make them the richest country.
and they could sell to the wolrd.
so why are they not doing this???

why are we ALL reliant on others to make most of the things we need?
I think its so we are week as individuals.
even people who do this for them selfs are not like't by the Gov.

Is this a serious post?

he lagged behind the mind in the Vietnam pit, some old.computerra.ru... are better left sniff bamboo roots

The United States uses Russian engines because the 1960s Soviet era designed engines perform far better than modern American designed engines it's as simple as that.
NASA had a choice buy superior Russian engines or waste time and money trying to copy what the Soviets had accomplished decades before.

this video on the subject is worth a watch.
www.youtube.com...

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Answer

The reason they're so expensive is they're having to start from scratch, and are required to use a kerosene based fuel, instead of one of the other fuels that they use for other engines. And they were only given a little over three years to do it.

When the Air Force was told to find an RD-180 replacement the requirement thru were handed was that it had to use the same fuel type. Which means that the two or three engines already well into development can't be used.

SpaceX uses kerosene engines.

But of course, doing it cheaper, faster and lower cost through SpaceX is completely against what the big military contractors with Senators on payroll want. Delays halfway through are part of their strategy. Why take 5 years of revenue if you can turn it into 15? Back the 1960's there was less cultural emphasis on "shareholder value" and companies were more patriotic, there were more individual competitors, and the Germans running the thing would never put up with that kind of #.

The core competence of big MIC is managing government procurement for profit.

The core competence of SpaceX is rocket engineering.

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SpaceX also doesn't currently have a rocket or engine that fits their needs.