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originally posted by: JeanPaul
originally posted by: Phallacy
a reply to: ketsuko
That's how I saw it too until I actually read the material my WP friends kept suggesting I read like "White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack." It's about the everyday experience (and its compounding effects) of being a skin color that's generally treated as an underclass (albeit often unintentionally). Quick except:
1. I can if I wish arrange to be in the company of people of my race most of the time.
2. I can avoid spending time with people whom I was trained to mistrust and who have learned to mistrust my kind or me.
3. If I should need to move, I can be pretty sure of renting or purchasing housing in an area which I can afford and in which I would want to live.
4. I can be pretty sure that my neighbors in such a location will be neutral or pleasant to me.
5. I can go shopping alone most of the time, pretty well assured that I will not be followed or harassed.
6. I can turn on the television or open to the front page of the paper and see people of my race widely represented.
7. When I am told about our national heritage or about "civilization," I am shown that people of my color made it what it is.
8. I can be sure that my children will be given curricular materials that testify to the existence of their race.
9. If I want to, I can be pretty sure of finding a publisher for this piece on white privilege.
Bollocks. Privilege theory is bollocks. You know not what you defend.
originally posted by: ChiefD
a reply to: JeanPaul
Gee, hate the military much? Unbelievable.
You have your freedoms because of the sacrifice made by members of the armed forces. It's too bad you're so bitter and angry.
originally posted by: Phallacy
originally posted by: JeanPaul
originally posted by: Phallacy
a reply to: ketsuko
That's how I saw it too until I actually read the material my WP friends kept suggesting I read like "White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack." It's about the everyday experience (and its compounding effects) of being a skin color that's generally treated as an underclass (albeit often unintentionally). Quick except:
1. I can if I wish arrange to be in the company of people of my race most of the time.
2. I can avoid spending time with people whom I was trained to mistrust and who have learned to mistrust my kind or me.
3. If I should need to move, I can be pretty sure of renting or purchasing housing in an area which I can afford and in which I would want to live.
4. I can be pretty sure that my neighbors in such a location will be neutral or pleasant to me.
5. I can go shopping alone most of the time, pretty well assured that I will not be followed or harassed.
6. I can turn on the television or open to the front page of the paper and see people of my race widely represented.
7. When I am told about our national heritage or about "civilization," I am shown that people of my color made it what it is.
8. I can be sure that my children will be given curricular materials that testify to the existence of their race.
9. If I want to, I can be pretty sure of finding a publisher for this piece on white privilege.
Bollocks. Privilege theory is bollocks. You know not what you defend.
I'm not defending it so much as explaining what the argument actually entails. Strawmanning or calling bollocks doesn't change anything. The fact remains, that the WP argument and what those who are "offended" by the notion THINK it is are 2 different things.
originally posted by: TheSemiSkeptic
"Well the soldiers that get paid the same as fast food workers have their housing and food paid for by the military, so that point is not correct."- IAMTAT
Soldiers/Marines/Sailors/Airmen don't get paid the same as minimum wage fast food employee. The Service Members get paid ALOT less, even if you include BAS (Basic Allowance for Sustenance) and BAH (Basic Allowance for Housing).
An E1 (starting pay grade) Base pay is $18,378.00 a year. BAS is $200.00 a month and BAH depends on your area (in my area it is $1185 a month, which would get you a very small run down one bedroom apartment). So all totaled that is $2916.50 a month.
Now let us break that down per hour, that way we can compare apples to apples. $2916.50 ÷730( the hours in a month) that is $3.99 an hour. Fast food employees get, at least, Federal Minimum Wage $7.25. That is $3.26 more than our Service member.
As for the free health care, Fast food employees have that as well. It is Federal law that hospital's Emergency Rooms MUST treat everyone who approaches them REGARDLESS of that persons ability to pay.
So to say that your average fast food worker gets paid the same as a Soldier is not even close to correct. Thanks for playing, tell them what prize they won Don Pardo......
originally posted by: JeanPaul
originally posted by: ChiefD
a reply to: JeanPaul
Gee, hate the military much? Unbelievable.
You have your freedoms because of the sacrifice made by members of the armed forces. It's too bad you're so bitter and angry.
My freedoms? From which war? Carpet bombing Vietnam? Overthrowing the democratically elected gov of Iran? Drone bombing 5 different nations in the last 10 years?
Maybe my "freedoms" have been given to me as a result of the war waged on the Philippines? Maybe Nicaragua? Perhaps the villagers in Afghanistan planned on tearing up the constitution?
Our "freedoms" are under threat by the very entities the troops represent. Our ability to make a living is under attack as well. "The troops", as well meaning as some may be, some, work for the Pentagon. The Pentagon works for Wall St.
The last "good war" was WW2 against Hitler and even that situation was created by various bankers and industrialists. The whole system is backwards and broken. Left and right. So called liberal and conservative voters have been bamboozled.
A paradigm shift is needed. One in which the population stops acting like a bunch of dullards. A tad bit of unity against the corporate aristocracy would be nice. A bit of realism. A sort of factual assessment of things, without the lame fixation on identity politics.
I’m offended that people assume I’m racist because I believe in economic development by way of Capitalism and a free-market economy.
So the next time someone tells you to believe in "free" markets, just tell them you'll believe as soon as they do.
When pigs fly.
originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: IAMTAT
I’m offended that people assume I’m racist because I believe in economic development by way of Capitalism and a free-market economy.
And I'm offended by stupid believe-systems. Should I write a rant now myself?
Yeah, maybe.
Let's take a look at his 'free' markets:
So the next time someone tells you to believe in "free" markets, just tell them you'll believe as soon as they do.
When pigs fly.
www.huffingtonpost.com...
Pigs fly low this time of the year, don't they?
I’m offended that people who are too afraid to ask for food stamps, disability, or unemployment (because they don’t want a handout) are probably the ones who could use it most, yet the majority of recipients who do in fact receive handouts abuse their “privilege” and continue to make frivolous purchases.