NEWS: 9.0 Quake, Tsunamis Strike SE Asia - 275,000+ Dead

Originally posted by Banshee

Originally posted by Indy
This is very unnerving because I believe this was the location of the largest volcanic eruption in the known history of the planet. Sorry if someone has already brought this up and I'm just repeating it.

I don't believe it's been brought up.
You're thinking of Krakatoa ... it wasn't the biggest eruption ever, but was definately one of the biggest. Ash from the eruption affected global weather patterns for years afterwards, and it triggered tsunamis that dwarf the ones from this quake.

Frighteningly enough, a massive earthquake struck in the months before the eruption. Krakatoa collapsed into a caldera after the eruption and is now largely underwater.

No Banshee.. I'm thinking of Toba. I believe that one is in the area. And Gazz... shallow quakes like that are bad news. Is magma on the move? Seems too shallow for a plate shift. I could be wrong.

As I suspected.. the Toba caldera is in Sumatra. Time to worry yet?

Originally posted by Indy
No Banshee.. I'm thinking of Toba. I believe that one is in the area.

I stand mildly corrected! I forgot Toba was on Sumatra.
Link to info

That's the eruption that some scientists believe nearly caused the extinction of the human race. Depending on which theory one subscribes to, mDNA evidence points to a massive reduction in human population around 75,000 years ago, down to but a couple thousand individuals. The last Toba eruption was around that time.

It makes me wonder were the earthquake is next year , last year was exactly a year ago in BAM , IRAN. and now one in the india /asia region:S

Wow, it's exceeded 12,000! My initial estimate was a maximum of 10,000. I am not surprised though that Indonesia is now the 2nd worst hit. It makes sense as the epicenter was based there.

What isn't making sense is the Maldives. If the Maldives is indeed mostly under water, the death toll should be enormous. Unless the reporters have exaggerated the situation in Maldives.

Did someone say Africa has also been hit by tsunamis?


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Somalia has apparently been affected although the reports are unconfirmed.

Originally posted by Indigo_Child
What isn't making sense if the Maldives. If the Maldives is indeed mostly under water, the death toll should be enormous. Unless the reporters have exaggerated the situation in Maldives.

Did someone say Africa has also been hit by tsunamis?

The most recent article I can find on the Maldives says that 2/3 of the capital was underwater, not the entire island chain.
Reuters
Likely a misinterpretation in the confusion of it all....

And yes, the east coast of Africa was hit by tsunamis.

Think about how bad it would be if there was a second major eruption in the region? The volcano may not be visible if its all under water. In 1992 Pinatubo erupted and dumped out something like 50 or 60 cu km of junk into the atmosphere. What happened as a result? Here in Indianapolis we had two record lows in mid/late June. On June 21st, 1992 we had a record low of 40. On June 22nd, 1992 we had a record low of 35. The records for the 20th and 23rd are 47 and 45 degrees. The two records were off the charts. It doesn't have to be 2800 cu km again. Even 100 cu km could cause serious problems.

Originally posted by Indy
Think about how bad it would be if there was a second major eruption in the region?

I'd rather not, however if an eruption were to happen and be anything even close to the 'big one' you are speaking of... All the talk we've had about ice ages and abrupt climate change as a result of global warming would seem silly.

The change in climate would be far more dramatic.. yikes

Our planet is hard to figure out, we can look back in time and see how things went... form a good guess at how things may be in the future.. but something like a massive volcanic eruption of the like you are comparing to would again throw everything we know out.. it is possible something like this could be the worst time on this planet humanity will have ever faced.

Oh yeah I said I'd rather not think about it.

Gazz

And the earth just keeps on quaking with aftershocks.

A magnitude 6.1 earthquake IN THE ANDAMAN ISLANDS, INDIA REGION has
occurred at:
12.98N 92.45E Depth 10km Mon Dec 27 00:49:26 2004 UTC

A magnitude 6.0 earthquake IN NORTHERN SUMATRA, INDONESIA has occurred at:
5.50N 94.46E Depth 10km Mon Dec 27 00:32:13 2004 UTC

A magnitude 5.6 earthquake OFF THE W COAST OF NORTHERN SUMATRA has occurred at:
4.07N 94.20E Depth 10km Sun Dec 26 19:03:46 2004 UTC

A magnitude 5.6 earthquake IN THE NICOBAR ISLANDS, INDIA REGION has
occurred at:
6.70N 93.02E Depth 10km Sun Dec 26 15:12:21 2004 UTC

A magnitude 5.7 earthquake OFF THE W COAST OF NORTHERN SUMATRA has occurred at:
3.70N 94.02E Depth 10km Sun Dec 26 15:06:32 2004 UTC

A magnitude 5.9 earthquake IN THE ANDAMAN ISLANDS, INDIA REGION has
occurred at:
13.60N 92.87E Depth 10km Sun Dec 26 14:48:41 2004 UTC

earthquake.usgs.gov...


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This is a terrible tragedy. Is Sir Arthur C. Clarke alive? He resides in Colombo, Sri Lanka. This reminds me of his novel The Hammer of God.

Here is a map of Sri Lanka. He should be okay if the waves hit the south and east of the island. Unbelievable there was so little warning.

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The UN is issuing advisories of potential disease epidemics in coming days due to water contamination and the bodies of the dead "rotting where they have fallen."
www.reuters.co.uk...

Also,
seismologists believe a massive bulge was created on the ocean floor from the quake. "Geologic plates pressing against each other slipped violently, creating a bulge on the sea bottom that could be as high as 10 yards and hundreds of miles long..." "The quake probably occurred about 6.2 miles beneath the ocean floor, causing the huge, step-like protrusion on the sea bed and the resulting tidal waves."
www.ktvu.com...

I thought of the epidemic immediately B. India has very substandard sanitation systems as it is - and large population centers - this could be a real threat.

Matt Drudge now has the latest death count at 14,000

Originally posted by Thinker
The birth pain's have begun the messiah is coming.

Hi, Thinker:

Not quite yet. A lot has to happen in a short period of time, and according to Yahweh's time, which is much different than our time as one of his days is as 1,000 years. A few things must happen yet, say, in the next 41+ years our time. This is a very short period of time, especially in Yahweh's day. Maybe we're in the last hour by his time.

Anyway, I haven't read every post here yet, but has anyone been to drudgereport.com and noticed that this distrubed the earth's rotation? That is interesting, don't you think?

Tiza

Since I can remember...everytime anything happens it's the beginnign of the end...there will always be disasters....

"All the planet is vibrating" from the quake, said Enzo Boschi, the head of Italy's National Geophysics Institute. Speaking on SKY TG24 TV, Boschi said the quake even disturbed the Earth's rotation.

That's all Drudge says, that's it...you don't think this has happened before with large quakes? There has always been large quakes and there always will be Why does it always have to be doomsday every time something happens.....

...THIS TSUNAMI INFORMATION BULLETIN IS FOR ALASKA - BRITISH
COLUMBIA - WASHINGTON - OREGON AND CALIFORNIA ONLY...

NO - REPEAT NO - WATCH OR WARNING IS IN EFFECT.
Revised magnitude based on analysis of mantle waves. This earthquake
is located outside of the Pacific. No destructive tsunami threat exsits
for the Pacific basin based on historical earthquake and tsunami data.

EVALUATION
BASED ON LOCATION AND MAGNITUDE THE EARTHQUAKE WAS NOT
SUFFICIENT TO GENERATE A TSUNAMI DAMAGING TO CALIFORNIA -
OREGON - WASHINGTON - BRITISH COLUMBIA OR ALASKA. SOME AREAS MAY EXPERIENCE SMALL SEA LEVEL CHANGES. IN AREAS OF INTENSE
SHAKING LOCALLY GENERATED TSUNAMIS CAN BE TRIGGERED BY SLUMPING.

wcatwc.arh.noaa.gov...

-raven

There has always been large quakes and there always will be

Why does it always have to be doomsday every time something happens.....

There could be some reason to believe this earthquake has been precipitated from the recent surge in volcanic and earthquake activity, especially in the ring of fire. If that is so, then it suggests, that this could be the initial events of a much global earth catastrophe.

St Helens and Mt Rainer are also in the ring of fire, and they are both undergoing extreme activity. Therefore if they do erupt, and they have been a factor in the Sumatra 9.0 earthquake, then the ramifications could be far worse and far-reaching. The earths plates are all connected, a large disruption, can have a snowball effect on the rest of the world. I would say such an event would be apolcalyptic.

Have you seen the "Day after tomorrow" the final event is precipitated from several smaller and seemingly disconnected events. We could be witnessing the same in the recent climate changes. So this is the rationale behind the doomsday prophets.

I am certainly not suggesting mass hysteria, but complancency is just as worse. I have a feeling that this is only the beginning of the end; phase 1 of the apolcalypse.

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According to a news outlet, 750,000 (!!!) people have become homeless in Sri Lanka alone. *sigh*

Blobber

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People, Just arrived Thailand yesterday. The destruction in Phuket is unbelievable. In some parts, the waves reached 2 km inshore. Homes swept away, pleasrue craft on the 3rd floor of a hotel that's been left gutted. Bodies still being recoverd at this time. The Government has closed all traffic to the resort island of Phuket and Krabbe. "James Bond" island is flat. Evacuation flights are being sorted out. This is the high tourist season folks. So, there are many Western casualties. No running water, no power and most telecommunications are down. Had to arrange a private flight to get here. Think there are gonna some insurance companies in real real pain. Navy ships and an arcraft carrier have just arrived with fresh water. It is awesome.