Marijuana is Medicine "Journal of the American Medical Association" concludes

originally posted by: soulpowertothendegree
a reply to: Aleister

Boy do my high school teachers owe me some apologies. I told them I wasn't high, just medicated.

Hi, and thanks for the response. In case any high school students are reading this I have to respond and suggest that they do not use marijuana so early in their lives. A person's brain isn't finished growing until age 21 or even higher (I think it goes out to 25 years old?). Leave pot alone during that time. This seems to be an established better way, backed up with recommendations and sound advice from all areas of the marijuana pro-con spectrum. Let High School be high school, and not High school (that sounds lame, but probably OK in context).

originally posted by: Aleister

originally posted by: soulpowertothendegree
a reply to: Aleister

Boy do my high school teachers owe me some apologies. I told them I wasn't high, just medicated.

Hi, and thanks for the response. In case any high school students are reading this I have to respond and suggest that they do not use marijuana so early in their lives. A person's brain isn't finished growing until age 21 or even higher (I think it goes out to 25 years old?). Leave pot alone during that time. This seems to be an established better way, backed up with recommendations and sound advice from all areas of the marijuana pro-con spectrum. Let High School be high school, and not High school (that sounds lame, but probably OK in context).

Kevin Smith had very good points along those lines.

He didn't start using marijuana until after 40. He put it this way (I'm paraphrasing):

"I'm 40 years old and I haven't had to worry about paying my bills for the last 15 years. I have a nice house, a beautiful wife, a kid who loves the hell out of me, and if I want to get high... so what? People who are young and can't smoke pot without it ruining their motivation and turning them into a loser absolutely shouldn't smoke. Wait til you've got life figured out, then get as high as you want."

I maybe over-cured then...

Funny, why I stumble upon this topic, while stoned from hours...
Funny.

I missed this bit of news. In fact, the last few days I have only seen the (prohibitionist propaganda funded) studies released claiming cannabis has little medical value.

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I'm all for legalization for medical use. I am not a cannabis user myself, however, there are much worse things out there that people can put into their bodies and I am fascinated on the effect it CLEARLY has on epilepsy/seizures.

This I think is potentially bad news, if they classify marijuana as a medicine it will probably be classified as a drug meaning someones going to patent it or some other non sense. The FDA will probably get to regulate it rather then ATF and in a generation it will be back to being lambasted as an evil, abused and tightly regulated substance. Damn thing is a plant and should be regulated as a crop not a pharmaceutical.

a reply to: WeRpeons

Colorado is actually doing just that! All will be released For possession Crimes, etc. soon.

Yea I tend to agree with this.

a reply to: Aleister

Not more stoner propaganda!!! Is this all ATS is for these days? Another day another dose of stoner BS, yawn.

Lots of propaganda from all sides it seems.

As far as releasing people from prison, some convictions are being overturned mainly those involving possession of small amounts of oils/derivatives. Before legalization, possessing these substances was a felony, now oils etc. are treated no differently than MJ.

It's not a stoners free for all, for the most part life hasn't changed here. Not going so good for out of state residents who come here/run amok. Just like Vegas, what happens in CO stay's in CO. It's not rocket science, LEOs in neighboring states are waiting to get you when you leave.

Just because it's legal here until other states shed their draconian drug laws, residents of those states will be arrested if they offend at home. I'm sorry but it's not Colorado's responsibility to police your people once they leave our state.

Just like speed limits, on our side it can be 75 on the interstate, if you drive over the posted speed in another state cops won't care how fast you drove in CO and if you use that as a defense you're an idiot. Same goes for pot.

There are still laws/rules/regs a guy just got arrested for possessing over 100 plants, he was selling them on craigslist. What an idiot, seems were just "weeding" out the idiots from our state as well as others.

Well hell, they could have just asked me. MJ works just as good...if not better than my prescription medication. And with fewer side effects. To answer the call for anecdotes:

I am disabled due to severe Bipolar I (asymptomatic at this time, thank God), PTSD and Anxiety Disorder/Agoraphobia. My prescription medication is Neurontin, which is actually and anti-seizure drug. It makes me so high it's hard to function. Totally spaced out. It depresses the entire nervous system which makes me clumsy (misjudging distances- running into corners, burning myself on the stove). It makes it almost impossible to do simple math in my head. It causes confusion and short term memory loss. It's the best option, because it's not addictive. My only other options would be devil pills like opiates or Xanax.

MJ makes me high too, but it's a much more comfortable high. It's much easier to function and is just as effective at taking the edge off my anxiety and the high dose of antidepressants that I also need to function.
I've been totally honest with my psychiatrist about it and she is totally fine with it. Even if the government chooses not to recognize the benefits, individual doctors totally do.

Sadly I just read about a case where the SC upheld and employee's firing due to testing positive, even though he was on MJ for legitimate treatment of muscle spasms. For all the douchey politicians/judges that support rulings like this: Are you going to expand SS Disability so that folks with medical conditions that are successfully treated by MJ can have a livable income? (This question is rhetorical, because of course they're not)

a reply to: ladyvalkyrie

I'm glad you've found relief that works for you. If you don't reside in a legal state, be careful or relocate to one. You'll have access to a wider variety of MJ treatment options that could better suit your needs.

Just because people may have smoked a strain that made them anxious/paranoid it's hard for them to believe other strains won't have the same effect. That's why it's so important to talk to dispensary staff to fine tune your treatment.

Anyone using derivatives from strains with a high CBD content aren't using it for the high, there's far better varieties for that. If the strain you're using causes you to feel too high, you could possibly dial it down with another strain.

That's why dedicated hobbyist growers are so important, they like fiddling with plants. They work hard and aren't the mindless stoners people mistake them for, some are highly educated. Colorado's attracting good dedicated people along with the beavis/butthead types but they're losers no matter where they live/what they ingest.

a reply to: Aleister

But it is okay for them to prescribe anti-depressants to those same high school children? I would rather they smoked a big fat doobie than swallow valium or xanax.

I'd be surprised to see someone on ATS who thinks marijuana should remain illegal. Usually, it is just the unaware folks who don't question anything.

I wrote a few paragraphs then deleted it all after i realized that this is ATS that I'm talking to.

It is so easy to write endlessly about the contradiction between legal substances and marijuana being illegal. But, I figured everybody on ATS already understands this.

a reply to: Morningglory

Thanks! My point was that to combat severe anxiety, getting high is a necessity. It's what the legal treatments do just as much as the not so legal ones. Some people get high for fun. But for some unfortunate folks, such as myself, it is essential to dull the physically painful effects of my illness. I have chest pains constantly from every little stimuli. It has nothing to do with my cardiovascular system, it is the anxiety hormones that get dumped in my brain over every little thing. Prescription/MJ/being high is like throwing a blanket over it. It's still there, just muffled.

And to all the people who have never experienced any of the illnesses that are treatable by MJ: count yourself lucky, because it can be excruciating. My disability was sudden onset only 4 years ago, so I've got a frame of reference for what it's like to be 'normal'. I think a lot of the slow movement on this issue is due to the fact that none of the doctors, lawyers, politicians or judges who are making the decisions on this are actually suffering from any of these illnesses. I guarantee that if any of them were suddenly stricken they would change their tune real quick.

a reply to: Aleister


Yeah, and so is Viagra. But Viagra doesn't do squat for anyone's health. It's just a stupid boner pill.

originally posted by: jamespond
a reply to: Aleister

Not more stoner propaganda!!! Is this all ATS is for these days? Another day another dose of stoner BS, yawn.

Nobody is forcing you to click threads, genius.

originally posted by: ChiefD

a reply to: Aleister


Yeah, and so is Viagra. But Viagra doesn't do squat for anyone's health. It's just a stupid boner pill.

Was this post sarcasm?

Had to be sarcasm...

Legalization is not a bad thing, just look at Colorado

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originally posted by: Answer

originally posted by: jamespond
a reply to: Aleister

Not more stoner propaganda!!! Is this all ATS is for these days? Another day another dose of stoner BS, yawn.

Nobody is forcing you to click threads, genius.

I come on the these threads for my own personal amusement, genius. Thanks for your concern.