Obama uses N-word, says we are 'not cured' of racism

a reply to: Willtell

Part of Obama's 2016 strategy.

a reply to: mojom

Yes he means it metaphorically. If you would bother to listen to the interview instead of just picking it apart and listening to other idiots talk about it this would be very clear.

I don't think they caught that. It was not meant to mean that racism is part of our DNA. That's ridiculous.

This shows the sort of people we are trying to converse with, that they actually believe he meant it was ingrained in our genetic code.

To have a valid opinion or argument one must delve in to the CONTEXT in which things are said and go beyond small sound bites of information. But apparently that is too much to ask.

They'd rather we held hands, sang songs.....and never spoke words that they did not approve of.

Propaganda indeed.

a reply to: ketsuko

I did not appreciate the idea that the word was replayed over the media where my son could hear it. It is like the F-bomb, and no parent wants their kid to pick those words up.

Don't expose your kids to the crap media. What are you thinking doing such a thing?

If it does happen, take the opportunity to be a parent and teach them what it means and why they shouldn't say it.

We can't shelter them all of their lives and we must take advantage of these sorts of issues to do what a parent is supposed to do.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: mojom

I'm complaining for two reasons:

1.) He can get away with it. I could not no matter how appropriate the context. The double standard bothers me.

As it should. When used in correct context and not directed as an insult to someone there should not be an issue with who uses it. It's a word like any other. The double standard bother me as well.

2.) I did not appreciate the idea that the word was replayed over the media where my son could hear it. It is like the F-bomb, and no parent wants their kid to pick those words up. You don't expect to be listening to your radio and hear that kind of language coming over the normal news broadcasts. Normally, that word is censored, but again, he can get away with what no one else can. Again with the double standard.

You should blame the media who replayed it over and over then not him. The interview was with WTF blog radio and was said with the right intent and usage. The fact that other media have used it to cause more problems is their fault. Personally, I think it's good that he said it in the way he did. Just like your number one complaint above, there is some unwritten rule now that says only some people can use a word regardless of the context in which it's used and that is BS. Nobody owns the language or it's usage and there is no reason to outlaw a word for some and not for others. He should be applauded for using it in the way he did and with the context he did. The point he was making was the fact that even though we remove the word we leave what the word is behind.

It would be the same if we stopped using the word Rape but kept on raping people. Just removing the word isn't the same as removing that actual rape. But it does result in nobody being able to talk about.

a reply to: introvert

The child is 4. And I suppose I'll just start listening to the Evangelical Channel from now on, and now you can now all come and criticize me for brainwashing him at a young age.



The news is the news. It shouldn't be crap if it's the facts and since when is what the president says classified as crap? I thought I was just on the receiving end of criticism in this thread for being annoyed with the president because I wasn't apparently nuanced enough to understand that what he said wasn't, in fact, crap.

Make up your mind, please.

My husband is the one who takes him to daycare and chooses the morning radio. My husband chooses the news radio because the rock radio has a morning shock jock, and my husband thought he would be avoiding the language like this. My husband chooses news radio because it at least exposes the kid of decent vocabulary. He does not expect our son to understand what is being said, but the overall sentence structure, words and grammar might sink in.

originally posted by: Willtell
Now children all over the country may start using this word and when their parents say: “Stop using that word Jimmy”

The kids going to say

“The president used it mommy”

To all mommies in the country say this to Jimmie:


“Well Jimmie your president is a FOOL…Never follow the example of fools”

To all parents out there say this to yourself:

"Well, I was a fool and let the media influence my child more than my lessons....Never follow my example".

a reply to: ketsuko

And I suppose I'll just start listening to the Evangelical Channel from now on, and now you can now all come and criticize me for brainwashing him at a young age.

No. What I am saying is that it should not matter what the president says one bit. Take the good with the bad and teach your children when the opportunity comes to teach a lesson that they will inevitably have to learn. Don't shy away from it. Embrace it.

That's what parents do. Or, should I say, are supposed to do.

The news is the news.

This is not news. This is partisan politics.

a reply to: introvert

I'll be sure to have my husband turn to Johnny Dare so our son can learn all about sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll then.

a reply to: introvert

You probably don't want to know what kind of rude gesture my husband is making in your general direction.

This was played even on NPR. I thought partisan politics was above them?

a reply to: ketsuko

the only kind of politics that exists is "partisan"

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: introvert

I'll be sure to have my husband turn to Johnny Dare so our son can learn all about sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll then.

If that's the lesson you want to teach, fine. Not my kid, not my problem.

What ever happened to good ole music stations? No political ax to grind or shock content to spew, just tunes?

The point is that our kids are exposed to what the parents allow, and your bias' reflect on to them. Be a parent and let your children decide whom they want to be. Sheltering them without teaching those important lessons leads to horrible things.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: introvert

You probably don't want to know what kind of rude gesture my husband is making in your general direction.

This was played even on NPR. I thought partisan politics was above them?

I do not care about what your husband thinks. Forgive me.

This issue is more about politics than it is about anything else and the hypocrisy is stifling.

a reply to: introvert

Are you a parent?

Have you tried to have a "teachable moment" with a 4-year-old?

Trust me. We do not shelter the child, but he is hardly ready for an in-depth talk about race issues in the country. So we would simply prefer that we save the discussion on the n-word until he's older and can actually understand it.

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: introvert

You probably don't want to know what kind of rude gesture my husband is making in your general direction.

This was played even on NPR. I thought partisan politics was above them?

I do not care about what your husband thinks. Forgive me.

This issue is more about politics than it is about anything else and the hypocrisy is stifling.

Well you certainly seem to care about how he parents.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: introvert

Are you a parent?

No comment.

Have you tried to have a "teachable moment" with a 4-year-old?

Plenty of times.

he is hardly ready for an in-depth talk about race issues in the country. So we would simply prefer that we save the discussion on the n-word until he's older and can actually understand it.

That is your choice. I find that it is easier to talk to children at a younger age about serious issues before their parent's beliefs and influence have rotted their minds. Children are much more receptive than adults. By the time we think they are ready to talk about certain things, they have already been influenced to believe a certain way.

Well you certainly seem to care about how he parents.

Not really.

I just don't want you to complain when little Jimmy hears something on the radio that parents are not prepared to discuss, and subsequently have to bash the person that said it because they were not ready to go down that road.

a reply to: introvert

They just refuse to be reasonable as usual. It doesn't matter how illogical their argument might be. They must find any and every way to find fault with Obama. You can't win an argument using reason when the other side refuses to be reasonable. Even showing examples of past politicians using bad language is pointless because they will ignore the hypocrisy and say "it's different because......whatever". It doesn't matter what is said about him either because whatever they say is justified while whatever he says is wrong by default. For example calling his wife a tranny is perfectly fine. There is no logic in some peoples arguments. At a certain point you must realize it's pointless and just drop it.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: introvert

I'll be sure to have my husband turn to Johnny Dare so our son can learn all about sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll then.

Why uh, why would that matter? I let my daughter listen to the same music I do, watch a lot of the same movies and mostly do what she wants to do to an extent.

Theres no stigma on anything, if its a little out of her depth I just try and explain it and shes good. She is the most well adjusted kid Ive ever met as a result. Shes intelligent and considered incredibly advanced for her age and defaults to having interest in educational programs or books and her musical interests range from Frozen to Kendrick or Gambino to Mozart.

The idea that "exposing" your child to crap affects them more than giving anything a stigma rather than openly discussing it is trash.

You think when they get older they won't reach out to explore the trash you try and hide from them? They will and itll be so much worse than just exposing them to the world and culture positive or negative from a young age.

a reply to: introvert

Is this about the thread or attacking a member because you dont agree with their parenting style?

Every thread you are on its more like you just like to argue more than you like to actually discuss the topic


How bout getting back to the thread instead of parenting style

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Is this about the thread or attacking a member because you dont agree with their parenting style?

No, it's about Obama using a word. The other member brought up parenting. If they didn't want my opinion, they should not have brought that in to the discussion.

Every thread you are on its more like you just like to argue more than you like to actually discuss the topic

I like to talk and debate, yes. That is what this forum is for, is it not? Perhaps you consider it arguing because you disagree with me quite often.

What is really humorous is that you claim I am making this about the other member and I need to get back on topic, yet you took your own shot at me in the above comment ( you just like to argue).

Oh, the hypocrisy. Based on your previous statements is this thread, I hope you are outraged at yourself. You did say that you are outraged at hypocrisy.

How bout getting back to the thread instead of parenting style

Agreed. Parenting did not have much to do with the topic and I do not know why she brought it up.

On topic:

I don't see what else there is to discuss. You are outraged about the use of the word with no concern for context. Ok. Be outraged.

I couldn't care less because it's just a word used in an acceptable context and was not directed towards any individuals. So who cares? Do you expect me to get outraged and cry like some whiny liberal?

Let's call a spade a spade here. You are not outraged that he used the word, you do not like Obama and are using anything you can to poke at him. I've read some of your post history and I can say with confidence that is exactly what is going on here. You are taking advantage of the issue to take shots at Obama.

I truly hope President Obama is not directing this to just white people. I work at a predominately black school and hear the word many times daily and it's not from whites. I'm constantly scolding the kids for using it.

I also hope he knows that all of us of all races were horrified by what happened in Charleston. I still am so sad and in prayer as I know funerals and earthly farewells will be coming in the next day or so.
I am just so in prayer for the families left behind by this senseless act of cowardice.

I'd just like to say, Mr. President, as you have asked of us in the past, I hope you don't judge all white people on this one evil being's cowardly act.