Are These UFO images real or Fake???

Hello

This is my first post on ATS so if there is any gramatical errors or anything fishy about my post please pardon me.

NOW

I was reading up on the Pleiades Solar System and the likes, and i bumped into a strange website that claims to have a man 'Billy' Eduard Albert Meier ,who, had contact with ET's and even had the opportunity to take photographs of their ships,on various occasions,times and dates..years even.
this is the link to the photos

ARE THESE PICTURES REAL?

this is a link to the whole article on the man and the stories he has to say about this whole encounter

Eduard Albert Meier's profile basically

i would love your insight to this matter as i have never seen an original picture of a UFO,if they even exist..but thats for another post
here im trying to find out if these are real or not..some of them are REALLY close ups,as close as i have ever seen an apparent UFO.

Thank you in advance

im Denying ignorance

a reply to: Phillyated

Someone will be along shortly to give instructions about your thread.
Stand by....

Hmmm...I'm not a good judge on whether pictures are fake or not, but imo some look real and some look fake.

Interesting nonetheless.

Great first post.


a reply to: Phillyated

Well, if you don't know about Billy Meier, there is plenty written about him, both positive and negative. It's not much use considering the pictures as stand alone because there is so much to know about photography itself.

You could start here,
en.wikipedia.org...

There's not much point in doing a potted history. To add, the man is still living so you could make contact yourself, but ask yourself this, the first pictures that appear in your link is with the UFO partially behind a tree, then in front. That same model is featured in a later picture also in front of a tree with terrain in view, (plus a seemingly slightly bent 'antenna') all those pictures have more than a hint of small proportions in the way they are set up, some could argue that two dimensional stuff can't be properly proportioned, but those pictures are taken with terrain in view so something to work on.

ATS usually throws anything relating to Billy Meier in the hoax bin, which i think is understandable.
but completely unfair.
i dont think his photo's are genuine, but that doesnt mean he isnt.

Judging solely the pictures, i have a hard time believing any of them are real. For one it comes out of a notorious hoax filled era in Ufology, but more importantly it just looks too easily faked. That being said it did reminds me of something rather important.

Batteries not included is an excellent movie.

youtu.be...

a reply to: Phillyated

Seriously? For a first thread on UFOs....ewwww...these are total fakes.

But welcome to ATS

a reply to: Phillyated

You need 20 posts to make a thread....and not here. Check your agreed to Ts and Cs when you joined.

Then you can restart this for real.

Welcome though!

thank you very much Gents.
i thought they looked suspicious..like the first one..it has an antenna,to convince 70's people its real..to them it wasnt going to look REAL if it didnt have an antenna lol

since everyone see's this as NLBS i think i will delete this thread?
waiting on one a mod or one more member **

very interesting- thank you a reply to: PageLC14

Fake! If you look at all the photos you'll notice that many of the UFO's are the exact same. Meaning, the light reflections and highlights on the ships are the same, exept they have different backgrounds. Poor CGI actually. Welcome to ATS though

originally posted by: Phillyated
ARE THESE PICTURES REAL?

They're fakes and if you look at the last three he claims that the "MiB" faked something, but they're his fakes and that's his excuse when he got caught! The UFOwatchdog.com article start off talking about those alleged "aliens" which were on the Dean Martin show:

www.ufowatchdog.com...

UFO cult leader, claimed contact with Pleiadian aliens. Faked UFO photos and films. Employed props and stop motion/cut photography to make UFOs disappear and reappear on film. Took photos of female claiming it was an alien, photo was actually taken off of a television screen from an episode of the Dean Martin show. The excuse offered when caught red-handed? MIB disinfo, of course! (That would be for Men in Black, but you knew that. Just checking.) Meier apparently thought no one would figure this out. ...

You can find explanations of how he made his fakes, even a partially burned negative found in his barn that showed a model of one of his alleged UFOs, and like with his "aliens" from the Dean Martin show, he had an excuse, that the model was built based on his descriptions of the UFOs.

You'd think this would be enough to convince everyone he's a hoaxer, and it is for most people including the owners of this website who usually move his hoaxes to the HOAX! forum, but there are a few people who want to believe so badly that even after Meier gets caught red-handed hoaxing, they still want to believe him.

Oh the 6th picture looks like a dinner plate, with another dinner plate turned upside down on top, with an upside down smaller plate, then an upside down bowl on top of that. It pretty much looks like a re-arranged table setting but just to make it look slightly different he painted some "windows" on the bowl and put an antenna on top. See here:

www.psychicinvestigator.com...

See this explanation for another fake he made:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Here's the model for some others:
www.psychicinvestigator.com...

originally posted by: mtnshredder
Fake! If you look at all the photos you'll notice that many of the UFO's are the exact same. Meaning, the light reflections and highlights on the ships are the same, exept they have different backgrounds. Poor CGI actually. Welcome to ATS though

Have one of my Cashew nuts, it helps your chomping...very cool experience actually, and highly recommended. A big one you can suck on, keeps you quiet for ages and gives you time to think on, especially about Billy's UFO's most of them taken 40 years ago.

originally posted by: Arbitrageur

originally posted by: Phillyated
ARE THESE PICTURES REAL?

They're fakes and if you look at the last three he claims that the "MiB" faked something, but they're his fakes and that's his excuse when he got caught! The UFOwatchdog.com article start off talking about those alleged "aliens" which were on the Dean Martin show:

www.ufowatchdog.com...

UFO cult leader, claimed contact with Pleiadian aliens. Faked UFO photos and films. Employed props and stop motion/cut photography to make UFOs disappear and reappear on film. Took photos of female claiming it was an alien, photo was actually taken off of a television screen from an episode of the Dean Martin show. The excuse offered when caught red-handed? MIB disinfo, of course! (That would be for Men in Black, but you knew that. Just checking.) Meier apparently thought no one would figure this out. ...

You can find explanations of how he made his fakes, even a partially burned negative found in his barn that showed a model of one of his alleged UFOs, and like with his "aliens" from the Dean Martin show, he had an excuse, that the model was built based on his descriptions of the UFOs.

You'd think this would be enough to convince everyone he's a hoaxer, and it is for most people including the owners of this website who usually move his hoaxes to the HOAX! forum, but there are a few people who want to believe so badly that even after Meier gets caught red-handed hoaxing, they still want to believe him.

Oh the 6th picture looks like a dinner plate, with another dinner plate turned upside down on top, with an upside down smaller plate, then an upside down bowl on top of that. It pretty much looks like a re-arranged table setting but just to make it look slightly different he painted some "windows" on the bowl and put an antenna on top. See here:

www.psychicinvestigator.com...

See this explanation for another fake he made:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Here's the model for some others:
www.psychicinvestigator.com...

Yup!

LMAO!!wow,im 100% trully convinced that he is an imposter ,damn-that sucks, not because i believed it,but because im still looking for atleast ONE legit photo of a UFO, reading articles about the Pleadians, i found out that their space ships are invisible to us,on purpose,as to not distract us from the "journey" we are on, which is "we are volunteers to a space program which is to find out the extremes and dualities of good and evil" not that i believe it,but its just interesting..im looking for truth
here is an article about an interview of 1 "Walk-In" as they are called, which are basically pleadian souls who make a deal with an earthly soul and they "walk-in" or they just "walk-in" to someones body at will, very cloudy on the whole concept
Pleiadian Interview

again,this is not to say i believe this whole notion or theory, but from what i understand, due to the whole agreement of the "Galactic 'unicef'" they made a deal that the inhabitants of earth could/should not be able to see extra terrestrial entities including their ships.so it makes it really hard to
1) belive that UFO's/Aliens are amoung us/Exist
2) to still stick to the notion that we are 'alone'

*DEEP SIGH*

a reply to: Arbitrageur

originally posted by: Arbitrageur

originally posted by: Phillyated
ARE THESE PICTURES REAL?

They're fakes and if you look at the last three he claims that the "MiB" faked something, but they're his fakes and that's his excuse when he got caught! The UFOwatchdog.com article start off talking about those alleged "aliens" which were on the Dean Martin show:

www.ufowatchdog.com...

More in-depth analysis covering all contradictions, flip-flops, etc. of Meier's claims on Asket-Nera pictures is done here:
www.billymeieruforesearch.com...

Meier since 2010 is claiming that the photo of "Asket" (#110) which he himself admitted to be fake since 1998, is a really an image of her (albeit with a different hair color which was changed by MIB from brunette to blonde) and not Michelle DellaFave, the dancer/singer from Dean Martin show.

Not to derail, just curious if anyone has seen this one before, supposedly from a rabbit hunting trip in 1962. Unfortunately I think MUFON is the only group to have this info. From the TV episode, it sounds like there should be several pics, but they just show this one.

originally posted by: Phillyated
reading articles about the Pleadians, i found out that their space ships are invisible to us

There is a video on youtube of Stephen Greer (another hoaxer) giving tours of an invisibla aetheric spaceship, though he makes people stop filming when they enter the space ship. Why, I don't know because it's invisible anyway. He has also taken a pocture of a moth and claimed it was an alien.

1) belive that UFO's/Aliens are amoung us/Exist

UFO's have definitely been sighted if you mean unidentified flying objects. In some cases they aren't hoaxed and we don't know what they are.We don't know if this is a hoax or not but if it is, it's a pretty good one, though being filmed at "Nellis Test Range" it's kind of hard to conclude it must be alien, after all, what do they do at "test ranges"? They test stuff, right? Still if it's not a hoax it seems to be hard to identify, but it's probably one of ours, maybe something not even known to the public:

Revisiting The 1994 Nellis Air Force Base UFO Video
So are any UFO photos really alien ships? None really convince me, and in general the better the quality of the photo the more fake it looks. The ones that are so fuzzy nobody can tell what it is, well no wonder it can't be identified. Some of the favorite cases of UFO enthusiasts have no photos at all.


a reply to: 111DPKING111
That looks like a bad photocopy with the contrast set too high. The story says the original images were polaroids and if someone wanted to analyze this imagery the first thing to do would be to make some decent scans of the polaroids. From the description of the craft making clunking noises and screeching and spewing smoke, it apparently sounded like it would have trouble making it to the nearest town, so I don't see how it could make it to another solar system.

originally posted by: smurfy

originally posted by: mtnshredder
Fake! If you look at all the photos you'll notice that many of the UFO's are the exact same. Meaning, the light reflections and highlights on the ships are the same, exept they have different backgrounds. Poor CGI actually. Welcome to ATS though

Have one of my Cashew nuts, it helps your chomping...very cool experience actually, and highly recommended. A big one you can suck on, keeps you quiet for ages and gives you time to think on, especially about Billy's UFO's most of them taken 40 years ago.

??? Can I buy a vowel for a hundred please?

lol...


...Seriously?